Pachter: "PSP Go a Rip Off"

[JasonS]

http://psp.ign.com/articles/993/993682p1.html

And I agree...more people like him need to stick it to Sony on these ridiculous hardware costs. I love Sony as much as everyone else on this board, but my jaw dropped when I heard the $250 price tag. Ridiculous.

[Septimus Prime]

But it was perfectly fine for iPhone to be $600 at launch, despite using EDGE instead of 3G, and it was perfectly cool for it to charge buyers another $300 to get features that should have been included in the first place (3G) a year later.

[Terjyn]

Yeah, refuse to buy something because they charge more than you want to pay. Let's make everything like the Wii, cheap to produce but with no real cutting edge technology whatsoever. But hey who cares? People will eat it up anyway.

[ifuwereahotdog]

Well the first problem with this article is that it's on IGN. IGN has been known to be a little biased for the green team when it comes to video games. But I guess if you don't like the price, don't buy it. The only one it's hurting is Sony.

[bajor27]

Originally Posted by ifuwereahotdog

Well the first problem with this article is that it's on IGN. IGN has been known to be a little biased for the green team when it comes to video games. But I guess if you don't like the price, don't buy it. The only one it's hurting is Sony.

Did you even read the article or have any idea what it's about? IGN is just reporting that a well-known analyst (who works for a different company) feels the price is too high. How does that in any way reflect a bias on IGN's part?

I, for one, agree with him. There is nothing to justify a higher pricepoint than the PSP-3000.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Yeah, refuse to buy something because they charge more than you want to pay. Let's make everything like the Wii, cheap to produce but with no real cutting edge technology whatsoever. But hey who cares? People will eat it up anyway.

Um, what "cutting edge technology?" The PSP hardware is 5 years old for god's sake! Sony is asking us to pay 80.00 more for....

1.) The same technology that's in the original PSP
2.) a smaller screen
3.) no UMD drive
4.) incompatibility with previous memory sticks and accessories

If Sony wanted to charge more, they should've went ahead and made this the PSP2 and added the 2nd analog stick and touch screen. As it is, this is a complete rip off!

Yes, I know they've included blue tooth which imo was a waste (unless you can use the device as a phone, what's the point?) and they've included 16gb of ram but we all know that ram is dirt cheap when bought in huge bulk.

No I'm sorry but as much as I love Sony products, the price on this is NOT justified! At MOST this system should cost 199.99.

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Um, what "cutting edge technology?"

Exactly my point. If this was a true PSP 2 with OLED touch screen and two analog sticks I'd be the first one in line to buy one for $250 and wouldn't complain. But not for old technology wrapped up differently. They are trying to rip people off.

Look what happened with the iPhone. It was listed at $600, customers raised hell about it and Apple lowered the price to $400 and gave all early adopters $100 back. People CAN make a difference and don't have to put up with companies trying to shaft us.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by JasonS

Exactly my point. If this was a true PSP 2 with OLED touch screen and two analog sticks I'd be the first one in line to buy one for $250 and wouldn't complain. But not for old technology wrapped up differently. They are trying to rip people off.

Look what happened with the iPhone. It was listed at $600, customers raised hell about it and Apple lowered the price to $400 and gave all early adopters $100 back. People CAN make a difference and don't have to put up with companies trying to shaft us.

Well, if Sony added an OLED screen I guarantee you it would cost a LOT more than 250.00. Actually, I'm fine with the PQ of the current screen as it is (PSP 3000 model).

To be honest, I would've gladly paid 250.00 and not complained if Sony had simply added the 2nd analog stick and a touch screen. Sony could have added those features along with the blue tooth and the internal memory, called it PSP2 and that would've been perfectly OK for me!! For a handheld, I'm perfectly content with the PSP's capabilities from a performance standpoint. I don't need anything more powerful. I just want something with more functionality.

Sony's BS claim of "a 2nd analog stick would make future games incompatible with current PSP users." Tell me, just how hard would it REALLY be for game companies to add both control schemes to their games? Then eventually as more of the newer PSP's penetrate the market, slowly phase out having both options. I mean it's not rocket science.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Um, what "cutting edge technology?" The PSP hardware is 5 years old for god's sake! Sony is asking us to pay 80.00 more for....

The cutting edge technology was actually besides my point, which got lost.

The PSP hardware may be 5 years old, but it's still as impressive of hardware as the Wii is. But the Wii gets a pass with its 250$ price tag and the PSP Go doesn't. Why?

Because people honestly have no clue when it comes to technology pricing. The internal parts on the PSP Go may be vastly different, better, and more expensive. But you don't care about that...you see what's been removed, don't give a damn if Sony actually makes a profit or not, and whine at them for being overpriced.

[chnandler_bong]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Um, what "cutting edge technology?" The PSP hardware is 5 years old for god's sake! Sony is asking us to pay 80.00 more for....

1.) The same technology that's in the original PSP
2.) a smaller screen
3.) no UMD drive
4.) incompatibility with previous memory sticks and accessories

If Sony wanted to charge more, they should've went ahead and made this the PSP2 and added the 2nd analog stick and touch screen. As it is, this is a complete rip off!

Yes, I know they've included blue tooth which imo was a waste (unless you can use the device as a phone, what's the point?) and they've included 16gb of ram but we all know that ram is dirt cheap when bought in huge bulk.

No I'm sorry but as much as I love Sony products, the price on this is NOT justified! At MOST this system should cost 199.99.

Why, so you can use BT headphones of course...not to mention the tethering to an eligible phone...

[androvsky]

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

But it was perfectly fine for iPhone to be $600 at launch, despite using EDGE instead of 3G, and it was perfectly cool for it to charge buyers another $300 to get features that should have been included in the first place (3G) a year later.

A lot of people complained about the iPhone launch price, it was only okay to the Apple apologists. But surely you're not saying it's okay to remove existing features and charge $80 more for the privilege, right?

Now the PSP Go is launching for more than an iPhone costs currently! Cellular data connection? Nope. GPS? Despite being promised by SCEA for years, nope. Built-in camera? Nope. Increased memory and CPU so it can at least have a better web browser if nothing else? Nope. Is Sony removing features from a lower-priced model and charging more for it? Yes!

How bad are things when Apple hardware starts looking like a pretty good deal? I'm a long-term Sony apologist, but even I have to say the PSP Go pricing is nuts. Even with extra margin to mollify the retailers, it's still far too expensive.

[Sweetstache]

I bought the God of War psp when it came out - I think I paid around $200 for it, I also picked up a 2gb memory stick for either $30 or $40 (I foolishly bought it at Gamestop) If I had the option back then to buy the "Go", I certainly would have.

[Stephie_is_a_dork]

I didn't have an ounce of respect for Pachter BEFORE viewing this thread, but if I did, he would have lost it the second he said "fanboys". He's supposed to be a ****ing professional industry analyst, not a 15 year old video game blogger!

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

That's the key.

This whole thread is based on an idiot's perspective of the gaming industry. Hell, I have a better record than Pachter on such matters!

quoted from the last Pachter thread.

How 'bout it Max? Shall these finally be merged into a "Pachter is an idiot" megathread so we can keep track of his "predictions"?

[sega_smasher]

Originally Posted by Stephie_is_a_dork

I didn't have an ounce of respect for Pachter BEFORE viewing this thread, but if I did, he would have lost it the second he said "fanboys". He's supposed to be a ****ing professional industry analyst, not a 15 year old video game blogger!



quoted from the last Pachter thread.

How 'bout it Max? Shall these finally be merged into a "Pachter is an idiot" megathread so we can keep track of his "predictions"?

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[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

But it was perfectly fine for iPhone to be $600 at launch, despite using EDGE instead of 3G, and it was perfectly cool for it to charge buyers another $300 to get features that should have been included in the first place (3G) a year later.

it was never perfectly fine for the iPhone to launch that high which is why so many people b-tched about it and Apple quickly dropped the price only a few months later

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by JasonS

http://psp.ign.com/articles/993/993682p1.html

And I agree...more people like him need to stick it to Sony on these ridiculous hardware costs. I love Sony as much as everyone else on this board, but my jaw dropped when I heard the $250 price tag. Ridiculous.

LOL when I read the title of this thread I thought it meant the intellectual property that is the Go was copied off something else.

[Goodintentions]

i dont think the GO is a rip off per say but for somoene who has already bought 2 PSP's ( my analog nub broke on my launch one and i bought a lite to rplace it ) its not enough of a new system to justify spending another 250 .if i didnt already own a PSP then it would be already reserved at my local store .. if sony did some kind of trade up program then i may think about it

[quexos]

Originally Posted by JasonS

http://psp.ign.com/articles/993/993682p1.html

And I agree...more people like him need to stick it to Sony on these ridiculous hardware costs. I love Sony as much as everyone else on this board, but my jaw dropped when I heard the $250 price tag. Ridiculous.

And that's nothing. Over here in Europe it will cost €250 which is about $350 US dollars