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Old 11-12-2005, 08:37 AM   #1
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Default Player formats question.

Just starting to learn the basics of Blu-ray so please forgive such basic questions.

I understand that MPEG2/4 will be the video formats of B-R.

As a user who is interested in ultimately creating their own content, will playback of MPEG2 files be limited to the existing cumbersome DVD mpeg 2 structure i.e. vob's, ifo's etc or will B-R syandalone players have the capacity to directly playback MPEG2 program streams (for example, a series of short clips 'burned' to a BD-ROM which do not require chapter markers or other interactive features).

Seems to me that with the advent of B-R, there is the real chance for a more flexible multimedia convergence than the DVD format (insofar as standalone players go) allows.

In fact, I can't think of a feature more revolutionary on a disc-based format than the ability to playback popular media formats such as DV - which the capacity of B-R would allow.

Or have I completely missed a fundamental of the B-R format which would negate such possibilities being considered for implmentation by a player manufacturer?

cheers.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:38 PM   #2
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DVD Encoding formats specs are:

Video:
720 x 480 pixels MPEG2
29,97 FPS
16:9 Anamorphic
Up to 9.8 Mbps (9800 kbps) MPEG2 video

Audio:
48000 Hz
32 - 1536 kbps
Up to 8 audio tracks containing DD (Dolby Digital/AC3), DTS, PCM(uncompressed audio), MPEG-1 Layer2. One audio track must have DD or PCM Audio.

Do we know what BD-Rom format will be?
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:14 AM   #3
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Do we know what BD-Rom format will be?
Not really
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:13 AM   #4
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it could use HD-DVD mpg compretion? or something competly difrent
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:24 PM   #5
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The MPEG compression is the same as in DVD.
The difference with HD DVD in the early days of the war, is that HD DVD got the H.264 AVC codec (sometimes called MPEG 4 Part 10) in their specification but BD got that codec now too. So theoretically they haven't got a difference in coding (except the menus and other interactif stuff).
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:39 PM   #6
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Does anybody know what the DVD Encoding formats specs are for PAL DVDs?

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Old 12-23-2005, 06:33 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Blofelds Cat
Just starting to learn the basics of Blu-ray so please forgive such basic questions.

I understand that MPEG2/4 will be the video formats of B-R.

As a user who is interested in ultimately creating their own content, will playback of MPEG2 files be limited to the existing cumbersome DVD mpeg 2 structure i.e. vob's, ifo's etc or will B-R syandalone players have the capacity to directly playback MPEG2 program streams (for example, a series of short clips 'burned' to a BD-ROM which do not require chapter markers or other interactive features).

Seems to me that with the advent of B-R, there is the real chance for a more flexible multimedia convergence than the DVD format (insofar as standalone players go) allows.

In fact, I can't think of a feature more revolutionary on a disc-based format than the ability to playback popular media formats such as DV - which the capacity of B-R would allow.

Or have I completely missed a fundamental of the B-R format which would negate such possibilities being considered for implmentation by a player manufacturer?

cheers.
hmm could my vaiotx650 use blu-ray or toshiba triple layer.. or it must be a blue laser for both
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:34 AM   #8
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could i use my vaiotx650 laptop double layer burner to burn toshiba or blue ray disc?
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:08 AM   #9
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... in a word, the answer is not yes ...

You need a low power blue laser to burn to Blu-Ray and a much higher power one to burn to HD-DVD ...
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:04 AM   #10
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The good news is you should be able to by BD Drive and plug it in (unless your computer is a Toshibia - in which case the computer will eject the drive automatically on power up - not that any self respecting BD drive would allow itself to be put into a Toshiba)!

When you will be able to do this is anyones guess but hopefully within about 6 months - Panasonic plans to start supplying Dell (and maybe HP) in Jan for Desktops and March for Laptops. Expect the other manafacturers to be close behind (or infront).
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