PS3's new 3-D mode captured on video, coming in 2010

[aygie]

Interesting, coming to all existing games? That's impressive

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/p...-to-all-exist/

You know what's absolutely useless? A video of Wipeout HD being played in 3D, with some schmuck wearing 3D glasses and babbling on about how much fun he's having. Well, that schmuck is this Engadget editor, the video can be found after the break, and we've gotta say: we loved it. Especially for something like Wipeout HD, whose neon-infused tracks make for an almost too convenient example of rapidly approaching vanishing points, we'd say 3D could really be a quasi-"killer app" for consoles going forward -- especially if those fancy new motion controllers don't catch on for Microsoft and Sony. In many ways, 3D just seems to make more sense in a video game than for a movie, and the whole problem of finding content to deliver in the format has already been solved: a software update for the PS3 sometime in 2010 will enable it to provide a 3D viewing experience to "all" existing games on the system. We're sure there will be some exceptions, but it sounds very promising. The console itself pumps out a quite regular signal over HDMI, which the TV syncs up with your 3D glasses. A 200Hz TV, for instance, alternates 1080p frames, with 100Hz for each eye. Of course, you'll need a brand new TV, but at least it won't be restricted to just Sony televisions. Start saving those pennies!

[progers13]

New TV needed? Hmmm...how convenient. This is going to have a hard time gaining traction with those of us who have recently spent $2,000+ (or more) on our new 1080P TVs.

[master_8ball]

Originally Posted by progers13

New TV needed? Hmmm...how convenient. This is going to have a hard time gaining traction with those of us who have recently spent $2,000+ (or more) on our new 1080P TVs.

From what I understand not everyone will have to buy a new tv. If you have a tv that is 240hz or more (new lcd and most plasmas over the last year) it should work. Like the article said it splits the 200hz into 2 100hz pictures. So if you have a 60hz lcd you would probably need a new one, and my RPTV probably wont work either.

[Xerios]

good to see new technology coming into light with Current equipment, i still think it will be a fad, we all try it out on every game but at the end of the day its just not a standard

[fsavoie]

I don't see how possible that 3D is coming to all existing game... if the game is not design with 3D In mind I don't see much benefit of it?

[richieb1971]

Originally Posted by fsavoie

I don't see how possible that 3D is coming to all existing game... if the game is not design with 3D In mind I don't see much benefit of it?

Its not that hard to implement. A few lines of code and its done.

All that needs to happen is to change the way the game is displayed on the TV. To the naked eye it will look blurry, put some glasses on and it will look 3D. Obviously if its BC with most games, its a routine that works for almost any game.

[AikonEnt]

It's only a couple of months since I bought my tv so have no plan to buy a new one for the next several years. Oh well, no 3D gaming for me then!

[MacDaddyOJack]

I don't wanna wear glasses when I'm gaming and I def don't wanna spend another wad of dough on a new tv. I'll stick with what I've got until it breaks

[progers13]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

I don't wanna wear glasses when I'm gaming and I def don't wanna spend another wad of dough on a new tv. I'll stick with what I've got until it breaks

+1

[progers13]

Originally Posted by master_8ball

From what I understand not everyone will have to buy a new tv. If you have a tv that is 240hz or more (new lcd and most plasmas over the last year) it should work. Like the article said it splits the 200hz into 2 100hz pictures. So if you have a 60hz lcd you would probably need a new one, and my RPTV probably wont work either.

I bought my 120 Hz TV in January this year to go with the new house. 240 Hz TVs were in the early stages at that time and were significantly more expensive.

It seems you are correct in that those with 240+ Hz might be ok with their existing TVs, but given how recently the 240s debuted (and the still relatively high price-point), I would bet those owners are in the minority.

[master_8ball]

Originally Posted by progers13

I bought my 120 Hz TV in January this year to go with the new house. 240 Hz TVs were in the early stages at that time and were significantly more expensive.

It seems you are correct in that those with 240+ Hz might be ok with their existing TVs, but given how recently the 240s debuted (and the still relatively high price-point), I would bet those owners are in the minority.

Wouln't they be able to do it with 120hz screens using 2 60hz framerates and a 4:3 pull down?

Can anyone identify that Sony tv in the pic? I'm sure its not one of the new "3D" models they will be releasing next year.

[bilbravo]

Originally Posted by progers13

I bought my 120 Hz TV in January this year to go with the new house. 240 Hz TVs were in the early stages at that time and were significantly more expensive.

It seems you are correct in that those with 240+ Hz might be ok with their existing TVs, but given how recently the 240s debuted (and the still relatively high price-point), I would bet those owners are in the minority.

I don't think this is true. (It *may* be though). From what I've read the 240hz TVs don't accept a 240hz signal, they just have a 240hz refresh rate. They only accept up to 60hz (like most LCD tvs, even 120hz). The 240hz or 120hz TVs just take the 60hz signal and mess with it to do things like Samsung's AMP or Sony's Motion stuff. They add black frames alternating, or things like that.

So I think everyone will need a new TV, unless you've already bought a 3DTV.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Proteus]

TV's aren't that much more than the same level of TV last year (i.e. VT10 msrp is very similar to VT25 msrp).

Where they rape you is the stereoscopic shuttering 3d glasses. They are the best, but also expensive. $150+++ a pair and only one pair comes with the TV (hence any price difference over previous years models).

The stereoscopic is different than the light grey polarized glasses in how it works. It actually shutters each eye in sync with the refresh rate. It's more like how Imax works than Real 3D, I believe.

Anyway, it looks fun to me. I'd consider dropping in for gaming, no problem. I like how it makes the picture look so much more 'deep' without having to depend on artistic shadowing, etc. Things popping out at you really isn't the real asset here, as another poster mentioned earlier... It's more about creating depth layers to make the image more immersive. It just so happens that things can pop out... but only to about screen depth. The old 3D tech used in say, Captain Eo Micheal Jackson thing at Disneyland, makes things pop out and 'float' or whatever a ton more but has it's own drawbacks with ghosting, etc.

[Grim Reaper]

i REFUSE to buy a new tv. just to play my games in 3D.

[Mors]

I was planning on replacing my TV next year anyway. As long as it isn't too expensive I will get a 3D one.

[obiwopkenobi62]

Originally Posted by Mors

I was planning on replacing my TV next year anyway. As long as it isn't too expensive I will get a 3D one.

Same here. If they do it right it's going to be incredible.

[ToonyLoons]

I think my Plasma should be able to handle 3d with it's 480 hz refresh, or at least I hope. I doubt many games will be retrofit to display in 3D, just like some games we would love to have trophies still dont have them. I will give it a try if it is not too pricey to update a game to 3D. Looking forward to it.

[RocShemp]

It seems Sony's idea for 3D is dependant on their new Bravia TV: http://tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090...siontechnology

[turboLAZER]

Originally Posted by ToonyLoons

I think my Plasma should be able to handle 3d with it's 480 hz refresh, or at least I hope. I doubt many games will be retrofit to display in 3D, just like some games we would love to have trophies still dont have them. I will give it a try if it is not too pricey to update a game to 3D. Looking forward to it.

your TV has refresh rate of 60hz. the 480hz refers to the sub-field drive, which has nothing to do with frame rate

[Oddiophile]

You know what's absolutely useless? A video of Wipeout HD being played in 3D, with some schmuck wearing 3D glasses and babbling on about how much fun he's having. Well, that schmuck is this Engadget editor, the video can be found after the break, and we've gotta say: we loved it. Especially for something like Wipeout HD, whose neon-infused tracks make for an almost too convenient example of rapidly approaching vanishing points, we'd say 3D could really be a quasi-"killer app" for consoles going forward -- especially if those fancy new motion controllers don't catch on for Microsoft and Sony. In many ways, 3D just seems to make more sense in a video game than for a movie, and the whole problem of finding content to deliver in the format has already been solved: a software update for the PS3 sometime in 2010 will enable it to provide a 3D viewing experience to "all" existing games on the system. We're sure there will be some exceptions, but it sounds very promising. The console itself pumps out a quite regular signal over HDMI, which the TV syncs up with your 3D glasses. A 200Hz TV, for instance, alternates 1080p frames, with 100Hz for each eye. Of course, you'll need a brand new TV, but at least it won't be restricted to just Sony televisions. Start saving those pennies!



Click the link to watch the video of this in action.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/p...-to-all-exist/