Final Destination - Snowy PQ - Blu-ray Forum

jsscooby · 10-25-2009, 10:55 PM

Forgive me as I am a newb and have utilized the search as best as I could, but am not having any luck finding information.

My question,

I have noticed that PQ is this movie is sub par. very fuzzy picture, noticeable on peoples faces and walls for example. Another example at 22 min into the movie the group is detained by security and is in an interrogation room. The walls are extremely fuzzy. I have noticed this on my cheap magnavox player and my ps3, using supposedly different quality HDMI cables as well as trying it on two different 1080p Sceptre tvs. 40inch and 46inch respectively. is this just because is not naqtive 1080p. I too have noticed this on other flicks as well, but not as bad as this one.

Thanks...

QuasidodoJr · 10-25-2009, 10:59 PM

If you're referring to film grain, that's more than likely attached to the film source, and not a fault of the transfer. I thought the movie was kind of soft, throughout. Not completely terrible, but not impressive either.

jsscooby · 10-25-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuasidodoJr

If you're referring to film grain, that's more than likely attached to the film source, and not a fault of the transfer. I thought the movie was kind of soft, throughout. Not completely terrible, but not impressive either.

Oh I see. I was wondering what exactly this grain was, but now I understand.

MaCruz · 10-25-2009, 11:21 PM

Some love it... Some hate it.

Welcome to Blu-Ray.com!!!

jsscooby · 10-26-2009, 12:19 AM

Thanks for the Welcome

Q? · 10-26-2009, 01:14 AM

Welcome!
Check this thread from the Newbie Discussion section.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=93817
"WHY DO SOME BLU-RAYS LOOK BETTER THAN OTHERS: AND WHY ARE SOME GRAINY?

Many factors come into play as to why some films look better than others on Blu-ray. The original source material (the film) as well as the effort put forth in transferring the information to Blu-ray is very important, as is the lighting and direction when the material was shot.

Grain is a widely debated topic. Grain is inherit to film since film is created through a chemical process using silver halide. Wikipedia has a more "technical" description of what it is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_grain

In some cases Grain is added by the director in order to achieve a desired effect. A perfect example of this is in the movie "300" where heavy amounts of grain were added to the film. Only films shot digitally will be totally devoid of grain.

Where the debate comes in, is the amount of grain that is perceived as "good" or "bad". Many films are "scrubbed" and grain is removed to give the film a "cleaner" or "crisper" look. By removing grain entirely detail is lost.... so grain is often simply "reduced" When you see Grain that you didn't see on the DVD, it's not because the grain wasn't there, it's due to the fact that the increased resolution is showing more detail, which includes the subtle and intricate presence of grain, that standard definition resolution didn't show. There is certainly a great difference between film grain, and simply blurry lines and lack of detail from standard definition."

Personally I prefer grain to be preserved and love the filmic "feel" it has.

10-25-2009, 10:55 PM	#1
jsscooby Active Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:NY 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:2	Final Destination - Snowy PQ Forgive me as I am a newb and have utilized the search as best as I could, but am not having any luck finding information. My question, I have noticed that PQ is this movie is sub par. very fuzzy picture, noticeable on peoples faces and walls for example. Another example at 22 min into the movie the group is detained by security and is in an interrogation room. The walls are extremely fuzzy. I have noticed this on my cheap magnavox player and my ps3, using supposedly different quality HDMI cables as well as trying it on two different 1080p Sceptre tvs. 40inch and 46inch respectively. is this just because is not naqtive 1080p. I too have noticed this on other flicks as well, but not as bad as this one. Thanks...

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10-25-2009, 10:59 PM	#2
QuasidodoJr Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Cincinnati, OH 4K collection:614 Blu-ray collection:1649 DVD collection:152 Trading Score:267	If you're referring to film grain, that's more than likely attached to the film source, and not a fault of the transfer. I thought the movie was kind of soft, throughout. Not completely terrible, but not impressive either.

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10-26-2009, 12:19 AM	#5
jsscooby Active Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:NY 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:2	Thanks for the Welcome

10-26-2009, 01:14 AM	#6
Q? Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Nuuk, Greenland Blu-ray collection:168	Welcome! Check this thread from the Newbie Discussion section. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=93817 "WHY DO SOME BLU-RAYS LOOK BETTER THAN OTHERS: AND WHY ARE SOME GRAINY? Many factors come into play as to why some films look better than others on Blu-ray. The original source material (the film) as well as the effort put forth in transferring the information to Blu-ray is very important, as is the lighting and direction when the material was shot. Grain is a widely debated topic. Grain is inherit to film since film is created through a chemical process using silver halide. Wikipedia has a more "technical" description of what it is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_grain In some cases Grain is added by the director in order to achieve a desired effect. A perfect example of this is in the movie "300" where heavy amounts of grain were added to the film. Only films shot digitally will be totally devoid of grain. Where the debate comes in, is the amount of grain that is perceived as "good" or "bad". Many films are "scrubbed" and grain is removed to give the film a "cleaner" or "crisper" look. By removing grain entirely detail is lost.... so grain is often simply "reduced" When you see Grain that you didn't see on the DVD, it's not because the grain wasn't there, it's due to the fact that the increased resolution is showing more detail, which includes the subtle and intricate presence of grain, that standard definition resolution didn't show. There is certainly a great difference between film grain, and simply blurry lines and lack of detail from standard definition." Personally I prefer grain to be preserved and love the filmic "feel" it has.

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