Is the expensive BD Player going to affect the BD's Future ?

[Eye-ray]

hi,

This is my first post in BD Forums, so enjoy it !

My question goes like this:

Is the Blu ray Player ,being expensive ( $999 ), going to affect the future of BD? ..we know that Hd dvd Player will sell for $ 500 only and how much that will be good for consumer as a cheap price for player. I want to know how much this factor " player's price for both of them " will play its own role in determining what Technology will win.

I'm looking for answers that could cover all these questions.

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[shiltz]

Personaly I think it will, though I would rather Blu-ray being the winning format as it is technicaly superior it's not worth twice the price of HD-DVD and when it comes down to it both do high definition movies so I would end up going with HD-DVD, and I would be willing to bet most/ practicaly all average consumers who don't know the technical differences between the two would also go with HD-DVD, at $600 Blu-ray could be competative, at $1000 they can keep their overpriced player.

[GTP]

Originally Posted by Eye-ray

hi,

This is my first post in BD Forums, so enjoy it !

My question goes like this:

Is the Blu ray Player ,being expensive ( $999 ), going to affect the future of BD? ..we know that Hd dvd Player will sell for $ 500 only and how much that will be good for consumer as a cheap price for player. I want to know how much this factor " player's price for both of them " will play its own role in determining what Technology will win.

I'm looking for answers that could cover all these questions.

Bye<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Price would mean a lot....if there were a market already in place for hi res video.
Clearly there is not a market yet in any way, shape, or form.

The hd dvd players are highly subsidized to reach that price point...and highly subsidized in a nitche market without volume sales = a failed format.

Blu Ray on the other hand is a lot less subsidized, will meet the same initial nitche market,and hang in there much longer.
Remember, the PS3 will put more Blu Ray players into average homes than all players from both formats combined without question.

Although the PS3 will also be heavily subsidized...it has a booming market as well as following to make up for this fact.
hd dvd does not have this luxery.

Because of the hd dvd heavy subsidizing....you can bet your bottom dollar all the dealers would rather sell Blu Ray with its 90% studio support, compared to hd dvd's 40% studio support in these nitche markets.

Blu Ray clearly has the upper hand in this as far as specs, support, as well as being able to hold out in a nitche market longer, and having the ability from the PS3 to put a huge volume of installed players into average homes that would otherwise not spend even 500.00 on a player from either format.

[Eye-ray]

hi,

I agree with you about that luxery that Blu ray has. However, isn't the PS3's Blu ray player going to have a speed of 1X with " Poor man" version that sony announced before ? wouldn't that affect the length of loading ?

and by the way, what do you mean by supporting blue ray with %90 of the studios while the Hd dvd will be supported by %40 ? would you clear that to me, please.

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[GTP]

Originally Posted by Eye-ray

hi,

I agree with you about that luxery that Blu ray has. However, isn't the PS3's Blu ray player going to have a speed of 1X with " Poor man" version that sony announced before ? wouldn't that affect the length of loading ?

and by the way, what do you mean by supporting blue ray with %90 of the studios while the Hd dvd will be supported by %40 ? would you clear that to me, please.

Bye<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

PS3 as far as I have read has a 1080p Blu Ray player and I am not sure it would be slower loading as theres supposed to be ample processing power behind this thing....more than the 360 for sure.
But either way, those that buy 500.00 and up dvd players , will buy the stand alone Blu Ray players, and those looking to get out cheaper, will hedge there bets with a combo game/Blu Ray player in the PS3 imo.

Blu Ray has 90% of the studios supporting that format with movies...were hd dvd only has about 40% of the studios supporting that format with movies.

No Disney, Pixar, Fox, Lions Gate Touchstone, Buena Vista, Sony,Miramax ,Mgm ect support for hd dvd...only Blu Ray.

[thunderhawk]

For the PS3, speed: 2.1 TFLOPS theoretical peak performance of the PS3 as a whole
For the Xbox360, speed: 1 TFLOPS theoretical peak performance of CPU and GPU combined
Finally, whether the consoles' advantage in floating-point performance will be readily apparent in games depends entirely on whether developers are able to effectively make use of the systems' unique architecture.

PS3 drive: it was said it would be at least 2x (72 Mbps). And some say news reports say 6x (216 Mbps).
For the Xbox360 drive: DVD @ 16x (177 Mbps) as the maximum.

So in the end, what has the biggest impact? If PS3 has a slower drive, it'll still be able to process the data twice as fast as Xbox360 will do.

[Eye-ray]

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

For the PS3, speed: 2.1 TFLOPS theoretical peak performance of the PS3 as a whole
For the Xbox360, speed: 1 TFLOPS theoretical peak performance of CPU and GPU combined
Finally, whether the consoles' advantage in floating-point performance will be readily apparent in games depends entirely on whether developers are able to effectively make use of the systems' unique architecture.

PS3 drive: it was said it would be at least 2x (72 Mbps). And some say news reports say 6x (216 Mbps).
For the Xbox360 drive: DVD @ 16x (177 Mbps) as the maximum.

So in the end, what has the biggest impact? If PS3 has a slower drive, it'll still be able to process the data twice as fast as Xbox360 will do.

Do you mean the PS3's drive will process the data twice what Xbox 360 can do because of the 2.1 TFLOPS theoretical peak performance of the PS3 ?

It's really interesting to clarify this point, Would you please ?

Thank's in advance