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Old 05-29-2010, 06:45 AM   #1
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Default PowerDVD 9 Ultra: Disable 1080p24 While Viewing DVDs?

For BD playback with my HTPC, I use the PowerDVD 9 Ultra plug-in for Windows 7 Media Center. BDs play at the desired 1080p24 (my ATI desktop settings), but DVDs also play at 1080p24. While that works for some DVD movies, most TV shows on DVD look horrendous when forced to 24 fps. Media Center itself outputs at 1080p60 (even though the desktop is set to 24), including DVDs viewed using its built-in DVD player, but PowerDVD with hardware acceleration looks much better to me for DVDs. Does anyone know of a method for the PowerDVD plug-in to automatically switch to 1080p60 while playing DVDs? Thanks in advance.

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I see someone else is annoyed by this:

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To watch a blu-ray I have to manually set the refresh rate to 24Hz.

When I'm done I have to set it back (because 24Hz sucks for anything else).

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Old 05-29-2010, 08:13 PM   #2
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Currently every single Blu-ray software player I have seen adds 3:2 pulldown for all 1080p/24 movies (60HZ). There are some graphics cards that will do a reverse 3:2 pulldown for Blu-ray's and DVD's when 3:2 pulldown is detected. Blu-ray computer drives have been on the market for 4 years now (since around May 2006) and we still do not have a software player that has the option to bypass 3:2 pulldown and output native 1080P/24. That is one reason I use a standalone OPPO BDP-83 on a Pioneer plasma for almost all my movie watching.

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Old 05-31-2010, 07:06 PM   #3
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My understanding is that PowerDVD 10 does support 1080 24p as well as 3D. You can download a 30 day trial. Its working well on my 2007 Vista Toshiba Satellite that came with HD-DVD. Even 8 channel audio is supported.

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/po...gn=CL_Homepage
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:28 PM   #4
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My understanding is that PowerDVD 10 does support 1080 24p as well as 3D. You can download a 30 day trial. Its working well on my 2007 Vista Toshiba Satellite that came with HD-DVD. Even 8 channel audio is supported.

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/po...gn=CL_Homepage
I am still using PowerDVD 9 Ultra and it converts 1080p/24 to 60HZ using 3:2 pulldown (Some graphics cards will do a reverse 3:2 pulldown and output 1080p/24, but bypassing the 3:2 pulldown process completely would be a lot better) . I now see that PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D is available as a retail box version (it use to be a download version only). If PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D supports 1080P/24 output to the graphicss card then there should be a menu option in the PowereDVD software to switch between 1080p/24 and 1080p/60. When I have the time I might purchase the retail box version of PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D.

I understand that a free Mark II upgrade will be available sometime this summer that will turn the player into a profile 5.0 3-D Blu-ray player. I wonder if Mark II this summer is going to be also offered as a new software package to replace PowerDVD 10 Ultra or if its just going to be a software upgrade only. I might wait a few months to see what happens.
http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/compare-retail_en_US.html

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Old 06-01-2010, 12:31 AM   #5
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I believe that the 3D software is being offered as a free upgrade to any current purchasers of DVD 10...
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:17 PM   #6
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Heres my 2 cents;

I have been using PowerDVD 5-10 for the longest time, then came along blu ray. PowerDVD seemed to still be the ranking program among my use. Nice quality on the picture, studder free playback, easy sound settings. Then came along 24p. With PowerDVD I was unable to get studder free playback running at 24hz under PowerDVD, I would get a distinct studder every minute or so easily seen. I've tried everything. I started thinking it was my TV, which is a 120hz (smooth motion) 47" sony. So I asked a friend to bring his blu ray player to my house to test some movies, and WOW, what a difference. Smooth playback with and without smooth motion at 24p. Even the colors were way better.

So knowing that it wasn't my tv, OR my pc (being a 4.0ghz Q9550 Intel Quad, 280GTX, and 4GB DDR3 @ 1700mhz) I did some research. I gave up untill I found a new program. And that was Arcsoft TotalMedia Theater 3, to my amazement, I had no studder with and without smooth motion. Even the PQ of the picture was marginally better. With PowerDVD everything seemed to be grainy (using hardware acceleration). With TotalMedia, theres still a noticable grain, but the image is much more refined as it was on the Standalone Bluray player.

So my 2 cents, im not sure what PowerDVD is doing when it comes with 24hz (if anything, its likly still attempting to playback at 60hz). But TotalMedia gave me a much better expierence while playing hardware accelerated playback with my 280GTX, zero studder. There were no specific settings for playback that I had to change, (obviously PowerDVD didn't have any also). But perhaps TotalMedia doesn't do a Pulldown affect automatically and checks the refresh rate of the screen recieving the signal? So if you haven't done so already. GET TOTALMEDIA!

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Old 09-02-2010, 05:25 PM   #7
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Default 24p software?

Hellow! this is my very first post on this board....

From my long searches, I always bumped to this board and particulary on this topic.
My goal was to find if there is ANY software out there that can play BR on its normal 24p as it should!?

It seems that although there are many BR players for years now, there isn't any good or none software to play the BR content in 24p?


So I wanted to know if somebody could confirm if the latest version of PowerDVD supports 24p?
Also I have seen in this topic that TotalMedia Theater 3 is able to play BR at 24p, but that is not confirmed on their website either.


Can anybody give me some heads up about this issue?


Thank you very much!
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:06 PM   #8
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Hellow! this is my very first post on this board....

From my long searches, I always bumped to this board and particulary on this topic.
My goal was to find if there is ANY software out there that can play BR on its normal 24p as it should!?

It seems that although there are many BR players for years now, there isn't any good or none software to play the BR content in 24p?


So I wanted to know if somebody could confirm if the latest version of PowerDVD supports 24p?
Also I have seen in this topic that TotalMedia Theater 3 is able to play BR at 24p, but that is not confirmed on their website either.


Can anybody give me some heads up about this issue?


Thank you very much!
I have the latest Power DVD 10 Ultra 3D and Total Media Theater 3 Platinum. I still do not see an option for native 1080p/24. My understading is PowerDVD Ultra 10 and all other Blu-ray software currently is still outputting 1080P at 60HZ using 3:2 pulldown. Then some graphics cards will do a reverse 3:2 pulldown and output native 1080p/24. It would be better just to bypass the 3:2 pulldown encoding and decoding process completely. Hopefully future Blu-ray player software will offer a menu option to turn on native 1080p/24 just like all modern standalone Blu-ray players have.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:44 PM   #9
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okay thx,

I have done some research and it seems there are 2 options to get 24p playback.
But first of all you will need a screen that can output the 24p, so a 120hz screen will do or a television set.
Those 120hz screen are kinda new it seems btw.

But the first options is to get this software: MPC-HC
It seems that MPC-HC automatically sets the output to 24p
(but there is an issue about playing the transportstream thats somewhere in the folder of the blu ray. No subs, no menus etc....(dunno what that means )

Second option is to tune down the Hz frequency on your GPU to 24hz, than you can use whatever software you have and it will output it to your (24p capable) screen.


So it seems there are ways to get a good BR playback from your computer to your screen.
Does this all sound right?
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:58 PM   #10
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I have the latest Power DVD 10 Ultra 3D and Total Media Theater 3 Platinum. I still do not see an option for native 1080p/24. My understading is PowerDVD Ultra 10 and all other Blu-ray software currently is still outputting 1080P at 60HZ using 3:2 pulldown. Then some graphics cards will do a reverse 3:2 pulldown and output native 1080p/24. It would be better just to bypass the 3:2 pulldown encoding and decoding process completely. Hopefully future Blu-ray player software will offer a menu option to turn on native 1080p/24 just like all modern standalone Blu-ray players have.
ps, how do you explain what the topicstarter than has?

when he plays his BD, he has 1080/24?????? and you say like the oposite.....

I am really messed up...
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:36 PM   #11
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ps, how do you explain what the topicstarter than has?

when he plays his BD, he has 1080/24?????? and you say like the oposite.....

I am really messed up...
There are many ways to get to 1080p/24 using reverse 3:2 pulldown for 480I DVD’s with upconvert and reverse 3:2 pulldown for Blu-ray’s that were converted to 60HZ by the Blu-ray player software. So yes 1080p/24 is possible on a HDMI output from the graphics card. The best way to use 1080p/24 is to bypass the 3:2 pulldown encode and decode process completely. So far I have not seen any PC Blu-ray software that has an option to output native 1080p/24.

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