Blu-ray: Dogged by delays, will it still have its day?

[HDTV1080P]

This article is a interesting read but it also talks about the negative history of problems the Blu-ray format has had over the last 4 years.

Color PDF version of article

http://www.edn.com/file/25491-Blu_ra...pdf?force=true

standard weblink version of article

http://www.edn.com/article/509888-Bl...e_its_day_.php

[ckenisell]

Sounds like a bitter HD-DVD owner. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Calling Blu-Ray a "failure". I guess ID10T's are born every second.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

Calling Blu-Ray a "failure".

Yeah, and he calls the XBox 360 a success(RROD anyone?) while touting Nintendo's paperweight and criticizing Sony's 3rd party titles? Has this guy even tried to play a 3rd party wii game(if he can find one)?

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

Sounds like a bitter HD-DVD owner.

That pretty much sums it up. I bet you can find articles written by this guy that praises HD-DVD.

[bt12483]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

Sounds like a bitter HD-DVD owner.

Confirmed.

Blu-Ray's Triumph Provides Mixed Blessings

Brian Dipert
EDN Senior Technical Editor

Apr 17 2008 11:41AM

In many of my NAB meetings this week, along with the general feeling on the show floor and in technical sessions, I've discerned a general sense of relief at the end of the blue laser format wars. Content owners now have a consistent format on which to distribute their material in the retail channel, and consumers now have a consistent media on which to archive their personally camcorder-captured and computer-authored masterpieces. The timing is in a sense perfect, too, because with the NTSC shutoff less than a year away, a large population of consumers are going to be exposed to ATSC-delivered high-definition video for the first time, which will also cultivate desire on their part for high-resolution optical disc-housed content.

Blockbuster's now rolling out Blu-ray format support nationwide in its brick-and-mortar stores. Sony's just rolled out DTS-HD Master Audio format support in the PlayStation 3, further justifying the platform I've long recommended as the ideal Blu-ray player (although those of us with highly desireable first-generation 60 GByte systems might have a problem if our units ever need to be replaced). Ironically, Microsoft released a firmware update (presumably the last) a few weeks ago for its Xbox 360 HD DVD Player add-on, too. Speaking of HD DVD, read-only optical drives for PCs are pretty cheap nowadays (at least until inventory's depleted, that is). And for those of you who've already acquired HD DVD gear, Best Buy just joined a list of retailers (also including folks like Amazon and Wal-mart) who are compensating customers that picked the 'wrong' format.

On that 'wrong format' note, though, I'll again admit to still feeling some degree of remorse that HD DVD didn't come out on top, an emotion based solely on feature-versus-feature comparisons i.e. not on any particular vendor affinity or aversion. [EDIT: suuuuuuure] From the very beginning, all HD DVD players supported features that the vast majority of Blu-ray players still don't implement; built-in Ethernet ports for easy upgrades and web-based content augmentation, rich user interface interactivity, etc. Admittedly, this homogeny was easier for the HD DVD camp to achieve, because it contained a smaller number of hardware and software standards-development participants. ...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...s&daysprune=-1

You could tell anyway. His article from the OP touches on each of the prerequisite talking points from an HD DVD supporter.

Whining about The 5th Element? Check.
Whining about Profile 1.0/1.1 players? Check.
Talking about CBHD as some HD DVD resurrection? Check.
Citing Steve Jobs "bag of hurt" comment? Check.
...and more...

The dude hits all the major points, and thus absolutely fits the profile of a bitter HD DVD supporter. Still bitter....2 years later.

[ckenisell]

Originally Posted by bt12483

Confirmed.


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...s&daysprune=-1

You could tell anyway. His article from the OP touches on each of the prerequisite talking points from an HD DVD supporter.

Whining about The 5th Element? Check.
Whining about Profile 1.0/1.1 players? Check.
Talking about CBHD as some HD DVD resurrection? Check.
Citing Steve Jobs "bag of hurt" comment? Check.
...and more...

The dude hits all the major points, and thus absolutely fits the profile of a bitter HD DVD supporter. Still bitter....2 years later.

Ha ha. PWNED!!!

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by bt12483

Confirmed.


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...s&daysprune=-1

You could tell anyway. His article from the OP touches on each of the prerequisite talking points from an HD DVD supporter.

Whining about The 5th Element? Check.
Whining about Profile 1.0/1.1 players? Check.
Talking about CBHD as some HD DVD resurrection? Check.
Citing Steve Jobs "bag of hurt" comment? Check.
...and more...

The dude hits all the major points, and thus absolutely fits the profile of a bitter HD DVD supporter. Still bitter....2 years later.

... and he should be bitter. It's very embarrassing for any print-journalist to make a public commitment to such a bone-headed cause as that of HD-DVD. To anybody with a grasp of the facts, HD-DVD was a dud from the beginning. I haven't seen a defense of it yet that didn't show an obvious touch of someone distorting the facts to compensate for feelings of shame.

[jakeneff]

The title of the article alone is enough for me to know the writer doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Afrobean]

Blu-ray, which has been under development for almost a decade, has yet to hit its full stride.

Blu-ray has been available for four years. That's "almost a decade"? And "has yet to hit its full stride"? It's showing enormous growth... I think that's better than having peaked and leveled off... Especially since we've now seen a mainstream theatrical release sell over 50% during its first week of release while competing with a DVD edition.

How is it people like this are able to publish material like this on otherwise respectable looking websites? Does this EDN company have no qualms with publishing such blatant lies?

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Blu-ray has been available for four years. That's "almost a decade"?

He said developed, not released.

Blu-Ray has been in development since ~2000 (the name Blu-Ray came in early 2002).

Still, ridiculous blatant manipulation of the facts.

So sick of so-called "journalists".

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

He said developed, not released.

Blu-Ray has been in development since ~2000 (the name Blu-Ray came in early 2002).

I'd say the formation of the Blu-ray Disc Assocation was the real point of beginning of development. Prior to that, it was just a curious optical disc technology that wasn't immediately directed to what it would eventually become. That was 2004, I guess, when the founders of the Blu-ray tech regrouped into the BDA. If you go back to the early development of the conception of the tech rather than the beginning of standardization toward home video, why not go further back in time in regards to conception of the media, say to the beginning of optical disc tech in general back in the 70s? Yeah, it's taken optical discs 40 years to get to where Blu-ray is today, CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW TERRIBLE IT IS THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG TO COME SO LITTLE?

:|

But Blu-ray is a software standard, and the problem the article names is lack of "maturity". That's a software "problem", it has nothing to do with the early work on the hardware side back in 2000. The conception of blue-violet lasers used similarly to red lasers as in DVDs might have first occured in 2000, but it took a lot of stuff from the initial conception to the software standard we see today that the guy has such a problem with.

That all said, you are right. I did misread what they said. Oops haha. But they're still full of crap regardless.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Blu-ray isn't going anywhere even with delays. Consumers who've adopted the format have plenty of patience and will wait a couple years just to get what they want. Blu-ray consumers are dedicated customers.