300 on HD DVD # 2 bestseller in DVD on amazon.com

[ReduxInflux]

how did 300 on hd dvd leapfrog blu-ray (which is still at a comfortable 5)??

not to mention the other 5 hd dvd titles that snuck up into the top 25.


hd dvd total in top 25: 6 (#'s 2,7,10,19,20,22)

blu-ray: 5 (#'s 5,14,17,21,25)


is this steam from paramount??? i don't understand?

[guybrush22]

what... that is weird. i wonder if people got re-newed faith through the paramount/dreamworks hd-dvd deal. but that really is bizzare.

[Lord_Stewie]

i think since paramount switched sides alot of people went neutral. this is one major problem shouldn't be avoided. The BD group needs to go after Warner and win Exclusivity from them.

[What'sHD]

Originally Posted by shadblz

i think since paramount switched sides alot of people went neutral. this is one major problem shouldn't be avoided. The BD group needs to go after Warner and win Exclusivity from them.

You are right, people are going neutral. The hd-dvd player is selling rather well...

But those moving from BD-only to both formats would not get 300 after buying a hd-dvd player. They would probably have had 300 already if they had a BD player and liked the movie.

I think this is mostly due to new hd-dvd-only owners, given that at the same time sales of hd-dvd's Departed are high too... corroborating evidence since it has been out on BD for ages and the previously-BD-but-now-neutral would have got it on BD already. The Para switch has generated a new swathe of hd-dvd owners, most of which are non-neutrals.


Time for BDA to do something to get more sales. The regular weekly increments of PS3 and standalones will not be enough. Or this could be just me over-reacting. I must say the perception from Para is damaging as hell.

Can the BDA please start marketing the fact that they have the big 3 exclusive to BD?

[Slapper]

Originally Posted by What'sHD

You are right, people are going neutral. The hd-dvd player is selling rather well...

But those moving from BD-only to both formats would not get 300 after buying a hd-dvd player. They would probably have had 300 already if they had a BD player and liked the movie.

I think this is mostly due to new hd-dvd-only owners, given that at the same time sales of hd-dvd's Departed are high too... corroborating evidence since it has been out on BD for ages and the previously-BD-but-now-neutral would have got it on BD already. The Para switch has generated a new swathe of hd-dvd owners, most of which are non-neutrals.


Time for BDA to do something to get more sales. The regular weekly increments of PS3 and standalones will not be enough. Or this could be just me over-reacting. I must say the perception from Para is damaging as hell.

Can the BDA please start marketing the fact that they have the big 3 exclusive to BD?

Believe it or not, everyone did not buy "300" on release day so don't panic! Here's why the "300" HD-DVD numbers are so high:

The Amazon sale going on right now is what is causing this. The Blu-ray sale has 105 items for buy 2 get 1 free. The HD-DVD sale has 55 items at buy 2 get 1 free.

HD-DVD owners have far fewer titles to choose from within this Amazon sale therefore those 55 titles are going to sell more copies to those that are taking advantage of the sale, thus boosting that titles individual sales number even higher. A lot of people end up buying the same bundles as their neighbor since they don't have as good of a selection as the Blu-ray sale.

Blu-ray owners have many more titles to choose from in this sale - 105 total. Almost 2 to 1 over HD-DVD. Hmmm, very interesting. Therefore, sales of each title are not going to be as artificially inflated because we have more options to choose from.

So, to sum it up, the actual sales rank of the Blu titles don't get as much of a boost as the HD-DVD titles because Blu-ray owners have more choices in this sale. You follow?

[Bond007]

Originally Posted by Slapper

Believe it or not, everyone did not buy "300" on release day so don't panic! Here's why the "300" HD-DVD numbers are so high:

The Amazon sale going on right now is what is causing this. The Blu-ray sale has 105 items for buy 2 get 1 free. The HD-DVD sale has 55 items at buy 2 get 1 free.

HD-DVD owners have far fewer titles to choose from within this Amazon sale therefore those 55 titles are going to sell more copies to those that are taking advantage of the sale, thus boosting that titles individual sales number even higher. A lot of people end up buying the same bundles as their neighbor since they don't have as good of a selection as the Blu-ray sale.

Blu-ray owners have many more titles to choose from in this sale - 105 total. Almost 2 to 1 over HD-DVD. Hmmm, very interesting. Therefore, sales of each title are not going to be as artificially inflated because we have more options to choose from.

So, to sum it up, the actual sales rank of the Blu titles don't get as much of a boost as the HD-DVD titles because Blu-ray owners have more choices in this sale. You follow?

Good point. There are more titles to choose from on BD. That's why sales are spread out. Plus, most Blu-ray supporters already have 300 on BD. Sales are going to be down from time to time with 300.

[thebluemax]

Anyone know how many have been sold?

1. PS3 players

2. BLU-RAY Standalones

3. HD-DUD Standalones

4. 360 HD-DVD add-on

[Slapper]

Originally Posted by thebluemax

Anyone know how many have been sold?

1. PS3 players

2. BLU-RAY Standalones

3. HD-DUD Standalones

4. 360 HD-DVD add-on

Don't know the numbers, but the PS3 is ranked #2 in Video Game hardware sales. Just under the Nintendo Wii. It's gotta be selling large quantities...

[docjan_uk]

relax, I'm sure a lot of people will be getting the 360 add-on, you can get 11 movies for the price of 2 with King Kong ontop of the 8 and 3 for 2 added on, throw in a player for 100+something bucks and it will cause the numbers to go up.
BD should still come out ahead in the Neilsens, and the prize to keep the eyes on is Christmas.

[lch]

when you have not much choice to choose from (hd-dvd sales list), you just get the most recent movie or the movie that most people talk about.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by What'sHD

You are right, people are going neutral. The hd-dvd player is selling rather well...

But those moving from BD-only to both formats would not get 300 after buying a hd-dvd player. They would probably have had 300 already if they had a BD player and liked the movie.

I think this is mostly due to new hd-dvd-only owners, given that at the same time sales of hd-dvd's Departed are high too... corroborating evidence since it has been out on BD for ages and the previously-BD-but-now-neutral would have got it on BD already. The Para switch has generated a new swathe of hd-dvd owners, most of which are non-neutrals.


Time for BDA to do something to get more sales. The regular weekly increments of PS3 and standalones will not be enough. Or this could be just me over-reacting. I must say the perception from Para is damaging as hell.

Can the BDA please start marketing the fact that they have the big 3 exclusive to BD?

come to think about it, how many xbox 360 hddvd add on sold since the price cut. Doesn't it include both king kong and 300. that would be an excellent marketing campaign and to retaliate, the 80GB PS3 should include motorstorm and two BD movies one them has to be 300 or casino royale. anyways does anyone know how many HDDVD add on sold since the price cut?.

[ReduxInflux]

QUESTION: why is it that you can't buy a Blu-Ray standalone OR a PS3 and get the 8 BD's. why is it exclusive to the PS3? that's kind of ignoring the non-gamer market isn't it? and that's why HD DVD is pulling ahead for these brief few days is it not? maybe i'm wrong?

[Rob Zuber]

There are various promotions at Amazon. The promotions have gotten a lot of visibility at places like digg. As always, look to the Nielsen numbers. We'll see how they do over the next few weeks.

[ReduxInflux]

Originally Posted by Rob Zuber

There are various promotions at Amazon. The promotions have gotten a lot of visibility at places like digg. As always, look to the Nielsen numbers. We'll see how they do over the next few weeks.

aha.... hd dvd has 3 promotions going on. thanks to the 360 add on. blu-ray only has 2. suck.

[BStecke]

You know what they say . . . the sun even shines on a dog's ass some days.

[Therickus]

Originally Posted by BStecke

You know what they say . . . the sun even shines on a dog's ass some days.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

[Rob Zuber]

The sales of both are anomalously high temporarily:

http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/histo...PE=100&SPAN=90

Wait for the Nielsen numbers.

[Sushisake]

Either that - or HD buyers are enjoying the same bargains that we have the past few days - let's face it, they are cheaper than we are - therefore, they take advantage of a good sale when they see one.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by Sushisake

Either that - or HD buyers are enjoying the same bargains that we have the past few days - let's face it, they are cheaper than we are - therefore, they take advantage of a good sale when they see one.

keyword is CHEAPER, and it means in a simple mathematical equation:

cheaper product = cheaper quality = cheaper consumers.

unfortuntely, a lot of people are cheap. and thats what the HD DVD group are trying to take advantage off.

[lch]

let's see how good is their sales when the offer run out.