Worse change to the Star Wars OT - Blu-ray Forum

Starpower67 · 08-16-2011, 09:30 PM

Just a warning to fans who prefer the altered verions of the original trilogy. This thread is mainly for people who don't like certain aspects of the altered films.

Ok so I see a lot of heated discussion in the Star Wars Blu-Ray thread about issues with the altered versions of the original trilogy. So I decided to make a thread to see what everyone thought was the most offensive change.

Mine would have to be adding Hayden to the end of Jedi. While I disagree with almost all of the changes George made, this has to be the most offensive to me. It completely ruins the end of the trilogy for me.

Blu-Benny · 08-16-2011, 09:33 PM

I personally hate the addition of jaba in A New Hope.

To me, he’s more menacing when u finally see him in Jedi after he’s been mentioned in the previous 2 movies. Making him walk was just ridiculous as well.

I also hate the singer being added into Return of the Jedi in Jaba’s palace.

Those are the 2 worst additions for me.

Starpower67 · 08-16-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

I personally hate the addition of jaba in A New Hope.

To me, he’s more menacing when u finally see him in Jedi after he’s been mentioned in the previous 2 movies. Making him walk was just ridiculous as well..

I completly agree! He seems almost like a joke when they added him to ANH. I mean having the most dangerous mobster in the galaxy let you step on his tail is ridiculous!

Filmmaker · 08-16-2011, 10:39 PM

Having Greedo shoot first not only makes for a garish visual effect but, more importantly, it, in an instant, renders Han Solo's entire character arc almost totally inert.

csdot · 08-16-2011, 11:11 PM

i cant pick just one.

Starpower67 · 08-16-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by csdot

i cant pick just one.

Sorry I know it is so hard! I wish now that I had created an option for more than one. I just wanted to see which change people hated the most even if they disliked them all. (which I do) If there is more than one feel free to comment on which ones bother you and why.

Duffy12 · 08-17-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by csdot

i cant pick just one.

LOL

Yea, same here.

I would just go with the whole color-timing, crushed blacks and soundtrack screw ups.

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EricJ · 08-16-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Starpower67

Just a warning to fans who prefer the altered verions of the original trilogy. This thread is mainly for people who don't like certain aspects of the altered films.
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Who is more foolish? The fool? Or the fool who follows him?

(Am I the only one who sees the inherent irony in this?)

Starpower67 · 08-16-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EricJ

(Am I the only one who sees the inherent irony in this?)

Ok so I am guessing your one of those people who prefer the altered versions. Well thats fine, but there is no need to be sarcastic. I just made this thread for the people who don't like the changes to have a proper place to vent.

AKORIS · 08-17-2011, 01:10 AM

too bad we can't pick more than one but....

Greedo shooting first is a travesty!!

Geode · 08-20-2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AKORIS

too bad we can't pick more than one but....

Greedo shooting first is a travesty!!

Amen. That is the worst. But one not listed that really bothers me is changing the explosion of the Death Star into multi-color and smoke when the orginal rendering was so much more elegant.

Starpower67 · 08-20-2011, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Geode

Amen. That is the worst. But one not listed that really bothers me is changing the explosion of the Death Star into multi-color and smoke when the orginal rendering was so much more elegant.

I am sorry, I just couldn't mention all of the cgi changes like the sarlac pit, cloud city etc there was just so many! So I lumped all of those changes under the cgi section.

arcadeforest · 09-18-2011, 12:33 AM

Greedo Shooting First

- you might of well give Han a walkie-talkie. The Vader No ranks right up there as well as silence is more powerful in that moment.

TLarge · 09-18-2011, 01:03 AM

Greedo shooting first defintely, it makes my stomach turn.
Then the Jedi Rocks musical scene, it could have probably been done tastefully but they went over the top & ruined it.

Groge511 · 11-29-2011, 09:13 PM

It's not on the list but I'd have to go with Obi-Wan's Krayt Dragon call being changed again. They changed it before and it did sound better (because it sounded to much like a Bantha) but now it just sounds horrible! It starts off okay and then it just sounds like a cat being strangled by a goat who is being strangled by another cat! I don't mind any of the other changes

Alexias_dad · 09-20-2011, 01:22 AM

Replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christianson at the end of Jedi.

Everything else i can live with, but really? common man!

L-Rouge · 09-20-2011, 05:26 AM

The Hayden/Sebastian replacement actually now didn't bother me (I voted this prior to owning the set), I watched it on Blu last night. It was Tem Morrison's voice over of Bobba Fett that irked me the most. The silent assassin morphed to a loose linguistic. The "Kiwi" inflection, which I'd recognize through and through seemed jarring or at odds with my memory of the scenes.

High Definition I reckon makes the CGI enhancements seem more natural. 9 disc set is great value

double_l4488 · 10-03-2011, 07:44 AM

It's close between Jabba, Greedo and the no in ROTJ. The jabba scene is the worse, imo. It's just awful.

View Poll Results: What change to the OT is the worse?
The general CGi creatues and scenes that were added	6	4.84%
Greedo shooting first.	43	34.68%
Adding a CGI Jabba to A New Hope (Which basically just repeats Jabba’s dialogue.)	10	8.06%
Adding the Wampa scenes to The Empire Strikes Back.	0	0%
Changing The Emperor and dialogue in The Empire Strikes Back hologram scene.	1	0.81%
Changing Darth Vader’s line in Empire “bring my shuttle”	1	0.81%
Luke’s line in Empire “you are lucky you don’t taste very good” being changed	1	0.81%
Morrison’s voice being dubbed over Jason Wingreen dialogue for Bobba Fett in Empire	0	0%
Jedi Rocks, the CGI scene that is added to ROTJ, and the song that replaces Lapti Nek.	20	16.13%
Changing Vader’s unmasking by digital altering Sebastian’s eyes to match Hayden’s.	0	0%
The added celebration scenes to the end of Jedi.	0	0%
Replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christianson at the end of Jedi.	39	31.45%
The color change that affected the light sabers on the 2004 release.	3	2.42%
Voters: 124. You may not vote on this poll

08-16-2011, 09:30 PM	#1
Starpower67 Special Member Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:178 DVD collection:97 Digital collection:2	Worse change to the Star Wars OT Just a warning to fans who prefer the altered verions of the original trilogy. This thread is mainly for people who don't like certain aspects of the altered films. Ok so I see a lot of heated discussion in the Star Wars Blu-Ray thread about issues with the altered versions of the original trilogy. So I decided to make a thread to see what everyone thought was the most offensive change. Mine would have to be adding Hayden to the end of Jedi. While I disagree with almost all of the changes George made, this has to be the most offensive to me. It completely ruins the end of the trilogy for me.

08-16-2011, 09:33 PM	#2
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	I personally hate the addition of jaba in A New Hope. To me, he’s more menacing when u finally see him in Jedi after he’s been mentioned in the previous 2 movies. Making him walk was just ridiculous as well. I also hate the singer being added into Return of the Jedi in Jaba’s palace. Those are the 2 worst additions for me.

08-16-2011, 10:39 PM	#4
Filmmaker Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tulsa, OK (but don't hold it against me!) Home Theater Gallery:90 4K collection:1162 Blu-ray collection:3145 DVD collection:593 Trading Score:24	Having Greedo shoot first not only makes for a garish visual effect but, more importantly, it, in an instant, renders Han Solo's entire character arc almost totally inert.

08-16-2011, 11:11 PM	#5
csdot Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Interzone Blu-ray collection:927 DVD collection:93	i cant pick just one.

08-17-2011, 01:10 AM	#10
AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	too bad we can't pick more than one but.... Greedo shooting first is a travesty!!

09-18-2011, 12:33 AM	#13
arcadeforest Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Sherwood Forest Blu-ray collection:917 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:92 Trading Score:3	Greedo Shooting First - you might of well give Han a walkie-talkie. The Vader No ranks right up there as well as silence is more powerful in that moment.

09-18-2011, 01:03 AM	#14
TLarge Member Member since:May 2011 Blu-ray collection:132	Greedo shooting first defintely, it makes my stomach turn. Then the Jedi Rocks musical scene, it could have probably been done tastefully but they went over the top & ruined it.

11-29-2011, 09:13 PM	#15
Groge511 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Scotland Home Theater Gallery:175 4K collection:69 Blu-ray collection:446 DVD collection:284 Digital collection:33 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:7	It's not on the list but I'd have to go with Obi-Wan's Krayt Dragon call being changed again. They changed it before and it did sound better (because it sounded to much like a Bantha) but now it just sounds horrible! It starts off okay and then it just sounds like a cat being strangled by a goat who is being strangled by another cat! I don't mind any of the other changes

09-20-2011, 01:22 AM	#16
Alexias_dad Special Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Modesto,Ca Blu-ray collection:235	Replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christianson at the end of Jedi. Everything else i can live with, but really? common man!

09-20-2011, 05:26 AM	#17
L-Rouge Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2010 Location:south 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:254	The Hayden/Sebastian replacement actually now didn't bother me (I voted this prior to owning the set), I watched it on Blu last night. It was Tem Morrison's voice over of Bobba Fett that irked me the most. The silent assassin morphed to a loose linguistic. The "Kiwi" inflection, which I'd recognize through and through seemed jarring or at odds with my memory of the scenes. High Definition I reckon makes the CGI enhancements seem more natural. 9 disc set is great value

10-03-2011, 07:44 AM	#18
double_l4488 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	It's close between Jabba, Greedo and the no in ROTJ. The jabba scene is the worse, imo. It's just awful.

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