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radagast · 10-01-2007, 02:16 PM

Sony is bringing an OLED tv soon with 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=21516

tron3 · 10-01-2007, 02:22 PM

NICE! But the estimated 30,000 hour life translates into 3.52 years of constant use. Or 10.27 years if you run it 8 hours a day. 13.7 years if you run it 6 hours a day. That is only IF the estimated life is correct.

Been waiting for OLED TV for a long time, but considering the size and price, I'm not going to let that stop me from buying LCD.

radagast · 10-01-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

NICE! But the estimated 30,000 hour life translates into 3.52 years of constant use. Or 10.27 years if you run it 8 hours a day. 13.7 years if you run it 6 hours a day. That is only IF the estimated life is correct.

I believe the figures for est. life. It's a new technology. You know "early adopters". Remember how far other technologies have come. I am quite confident that Sony will, in time, extend the life of the technology.

daisuke149 · 10-01-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

NICE! But the estimated 30,000 hour life translates into 3.52 years of constant use. Or 10.27 years if you run it 8 hours a day. 13.7 years if you run it 6 hours a day. That is only IF the estimated life is correct.

Been waiting for OLED TV for a long time, but considering the size and price, I'm not going to let that stop me from buying LCD.

ur forgetting a few things

the samsung is now 100,000 to 1.. not 500k..

also sony doesnt inflate their contrast like samsung does. also being a new tech waittill u seeit.. : ) u may be suprised

Blu-Light · 10-01-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

NICE! But the estimated 30,000 hour life translates into 3.52 years of constant use. Or 10.27 years if you run it 8 hours a day. 13.7 years if you run it 6 hours a day. That is only IF the estimated life is correct.

Been waiting for OLED TV for a long time, but considering the size and price, I'm not going to let that stop me from buying LCD.

If you watch your TV 8 hours a day you need some serious help!!!

JonD7 · 10-02-2007, 06:03 AM

ah yeah, sounds like this would be great for a PSP 2, haha

I uh... I watch tv for more then 8 hours a day actually... *cough*

Blu Tiger · 10-02-2007, 03:29 PM

So will OLEDs be better than pioneer's new plasma technology? Anyone?

welwynnick · 10-02-2007, 07:30 PM

For those that don't realise, darinp2 is probably the World authority on this subject, and I'd agree that six zeros contrast IS worth pursuing. I would probably be happy with five for now, but if six can be achieved from the first production example of a new technology, then I think we can wave a happy goodbye to years of disappointing digital displays that couod never turn the light source off completely.

There is a very flattering review of the new Pioneer in ultimateavmag.com, but ground-breaking though it is (about 5k on/off and 2600 ANSI), it's still a long way short of what prototype OLEDs have been achieving at recent shows and exhibitions.

Launch price aside, I think the only thing people will be able to complain about is how they just spent on old technology. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't welcome it with open arms and appreciate the real and worthwhile improvements it does bring. I was rooting for SED myself, but there you go. I just hope I got the blue laser disc thing right.....

Nick

HMtheJJ · 10-02-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

So will OLEDs be better than pioneer's new plasma technology? Anyone?

LCD and plasma is considered old tech comparing to OLED, so yes it is much better!!! also another reason why SONY's been using OLED display on their small sized MP3 Walkmans.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 10-01-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Sony is bringing an OLED tv soon with 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=21516

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Samsung has tv's similar like that with 500,000:1 contrast ratio. Do not be deceived by the numbers. I asked someone who knew this stuff and said do not believe any of that. Stick to the tvs that have 18,000:1 or less

tron3 · 10-01-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Samsung has tv's similar like that with 500,000:1 contrast ratio. Do not be deceived by the numbers. I asked someone who knew this stuff and said do not believe any of that. Stick to the tvs that have 18,000:1 or less

I don't see why we need THAT MUCH contrast that Sony claims. Doesn't too much contrast usually ruin the picture? OLED's being what they are, self lighting organic LED, I can see it having ultra high contrast. After all, the glow comes straight off the picture, not being passed through layers of LCD.

I'd like to see the picture in person. Must be phenominal.

SS316SRV · 10-01-2007, 02:31 PM

Contrast ratios are pretty fishy measures. Nobody has ever sat down and counted a contrast ratio. This technology will take a couple of years before it is fully accepted, just like the SXRD.

radagast · 10-01-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

I don't see why we need THAT MUCH contrast that Sony claims. Doesn't too much contrast usually ruin the picture?

Why would it ruin the picture? It would just mean that any material or programming that had less contrast would be reproduced accurately.

Sonny · 10-01-2007, 02:44 PM

11 inch screen

DezNutz · 10-01-2007, 03:12 PM

It is a new technology, and Sony is being the pioneer again. This technology will replace both LCD and Plasmas within 6-8 years.

There is a couple problems with the new technology, one being they cannot mass produce a screen larger than 14" right now, and the other is the "limited" life span of the technology. Both of these will improve with years of development and use, hell LCD has similiar size restrictions when it was first introduced.

What I love about it, is that it is thin, uses less power, has wider viewing angles, and best picture quality best contrast rates ect...

I see this technology really growing in small portable electronics, think laptops, cell phones, even PSP's... as tehy are thinner screens than anything out there, and use less power while providing a better picture, perfect for portable electronics..

Kristin Simard · 10-01-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

11 inch screen

That was my thought. All this fuss for an 11 inch screen!

darinp2 · 10-01-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

I don't see why we need THAT MUCH contrast that Sony claims. Doesn't too much contrast usually ruin the picture?

High contrast ratio can bring out details that would be hard to see with lower CR displays, so with images that contain a lot of garbage that was left there because it wasn't seen, it could be bad thing. Much like mastering audio content on crappy speakers and then playing it on great speakers and hearing garbage that was left in. This is one of the reasons I want the content to me mastered as well as possible and for people encoding to use displays that show them the problems. As higher quality displays that can show more detail come out there will be more incentive to make sure the sources are up to par for them.

With a display that is capable of huge CR a person could set it up to lower if they wanted to.

Real life has a huge CR range.

--Darin

radagast · 10-01-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Samsung has tv's similar like that with 500,000:1 contrast ratio. Do not be deceived by the numbers. I asked someone who knew this stuff and said do not believe any of that. Stick to the tvs that have 18,000:1 or less

Well I remember reading a trade show report about SEDs being shown that also have a contrast ratio that high. The reporters said that it had the most amazing picture of ANY TV at the show. So I have to wonder why ANYONE would say stick to TVs of 18,000:1 or LESS. LESS??? You have to be kidding. 1000:1 is less. That would suck.

HMtheJJ · 10-02-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Samsung has tv's similar like that with 500,000:1 contrast ratio. Do not be deceived by the numbers. I asked someone who knew this stuff and said do not believe any of that. Stick to the tvs that have 18,000:1 or less

lol, whoever told u that.... blah!!!

i saw the TV at the SONY show and after speaking with SONY General Manager it's goin to be one AMAZING TV!!! i liked it but too small tho, i'll wait for a 70 inch or 200 hopefully one day since it's so light and thin.

HMtheJJ · 12-21-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Samsung has tv's similar like that with 500,000:1 contrast ratio. Do not be deceived by the numbers. I asked someone who knew this stuff and said do not believe any of that. Stick to the tvs that have 18,000:1 or less

and don't listen to those ppl who has no idea what they are talkin about!!!

I saw this TV at SONY Tokyo and the SONY show here in Vancouver, Amazing PQ, i'm not interested in it at this moment simply cuz of its size, but once SONY can make 52 up, i'll start buying regardless the price, This is for sure the next Gen after LCD, PQ can blow you away!!!

10-01-2007, 02:16 PM	#1
radagast Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Location:Indianapolis	1,000,000:1 contrast ratio Sony is bringing an OLED tv soon with 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio. http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=21516

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10-01-2007, 02:22 PM	#2
tron3 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2004 Location:New Jersey Blu-ray reviews:3	NICE! But the estimated 30,000 hour life translates into 3.52 years of constant use. Or 10.27 years if you run it 8 hours a day. 13.7 years if you run it 6 hours a day. That is only IF the estimated life is correct. Been waiting for OLED TV for a long time, but considering the size and price, I'm not going to let that stop me from buying LCD.

10-02-2007, 06:03 AM	#6
JonD7 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Cali 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:251	ah yeah, sounds like this would be great for a PSP 2, haha I uh... I watch tv for more then 8 hours a day actually... cough

10-02-2007, 03:29 PM	#7
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	So will OLEDs be better than pioneer's new plasma technology? Anyone?

10-02-2007, 07:30 PM	#8
welwynnick Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007	For those that don't realise, darinp2 is probably the World authority on this subject, and I'd agree that six zeros contrast IS worth pursuing. I would probably be happy with five for now, but if six can be achieved from the first production example of a new technology, then I think we can wave a happy goodbye to years of disappointing digital displays that couod never turn the light source off completely. There is a very flattering review of the new Pioneer in ultimateavmag.com, but ground-breaking though it is (about 5k on/off and 2600 ANSI), it's still a long way short of what prototype OLEDs have been achieving at recent shows and exhibitions. Launch price aside, I think the only thing people will be able to complain about is how they just spent on old technology. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't welcome it with open arms and appreciate the real and worthwhile improvements it does bring. I was rooting for SED myself, but there you go. I just hope I got the blue laser disc thing right..... Nick

10-01-2007, 02:31 PM	#12
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Contrast ratios are pretty fishy measures. Nobody has ever sat down and counted a contrast ratio. This technology will take a couple of years before it is fully accepted, just like the SXRD.

10-01-2007, 02:44 PM	#14
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	11 inch screen

10-01-2007, 03:12 PM	#15
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	It is a new technology, and Sony is being the pioneer again. This technology will replace both LCD and Plasmas within 6-8 years. There is a couple problems with the new technology, one being they cannot mass produce a screen larger than 14" right now, and the other is the "limited" life span of the technology. Both of these will improve with years of development and use, hell LCD has similiar size restrictions when it was first introduced. What I love about it, is that it is thin, uses less power, has wider viewing angles, and best picture quality best contrast rates ect... I see this technology really growing in small portable electronics, think laptops, cell phones, even PSP's... as tehy are thinner screens than anything out there, and use less power while providing a better picture, perfect for portable electronics..

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