Il Gattopardo di Luchino Visconti - Blu-ray Forum

Riki333 · 10-04-2011, 12:46 PM

After it came out almost everywhere, The Leopard finally will be published in Italy by Medusa. It will be the restored print from Cineteca di Bologna.

Out: 16/11/2011.

Most likely there will be English Subs.

Amazon.it pre order: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-...7731935&sr=1-3

Saluti

RDA · 10-05-2011, 02:05 PM

Is this the same print that was used on the French release? Will pick this up if it has English subtitles if so.

Riki333 · 10-29-2011, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDA

Is this the same print that was used on the French release? Will pick this up if it has English subtitles if so.

Sorry, i don't know.

Here there are the technical specifications:

2 BLU-RAY + BOOK

Region: B
Coding System: AVC/MPEG-4

Disc 1:

- IL GATTOPARDO - FILM NELLA NUOVA VERSIONE RESTAURATA DALLA CINETECA DI BOLOGNA

Extra:

- IL GATTOPARDO RACCONTATO DA GOFFREDO LOMBARDO a cura di LUCIANA MIGLIAVACCA
- IL RECUPERO DEL GATTOPARDO intervista a GIUSEPPE ROTUNNO in occasione del restauro della pellicola del 1991
- IL GATTOPARDO – UN VIAGGIO NELLA MEMORIA
- CINECRONACA
- CINEGIORNALE
- PRESENTAZIONE CINEMATOGRAFICA
- GALLERIE FOTOGRAFICHE

Video Format: 2,55:1/1080p
Audio: LPCM Dual mono 2.0 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English.

Disc 2:

- L’ULTIMO GATTOPARDO di Giuseppe Tornatore (HD)

Extra:

- A proposito de L’ultimo Gattopardo: Guido Lombardo e Giuseppe Tornatore ne parlano con Gian Luca Farinelli

Video Format: 1,85:1/1080p
Audio: DTS-HD Master audio 5.1 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English, French.

Book:

"JE SUIS IL GATTOPARDO" a cura di Francesco Ruggeri

Source: http://www.medusa.it/film/1148/il-gattopardo.shtml

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RDA · 11-03-2011, 04:45 PM

Looks great! Is someone going to add this to the database?

Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-Ray-Libro-Stelvio-Rosi/dp/B005PD0VWY/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1320074410&sr=1-2

pro-bassoonist · 11-03-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDA

Looks great! Is someone going to add this to the database?

Pro-B

RDA · 11-03-2011, 07:04 PM

Novecento · 11-26-2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riki333

Disc 2:

- L’ULTIMO GATTOPARDO di Giuseppe Tornatore (HD)

Extra:

- A proposito de L’ultimo Gattopardo: Guido Lombardo e Giuseppe Tornatore ne parlano con Gian Luca Farinelli

Video Format: 1,85:1/1080p
Audio: DTS-HD Master audio 5.1 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English, French.

Wow, this has the Tornatore documentary included with English subtitles. I'm tempted to buy it for this alone.

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

Much better than the Criterion!

Really

I have the Criterion BD and it is gorgeous.

andreasy969 · 11-26-2011, 11:31 AM

I received the Italian release today and took some more screen shots. PQ is great IMHO, but I do agree on the black level problem (but I'm not an expert to say it's wrong).

Swearengen · 11-26-2011, 09:48 PM

I believe this is a kind of "Bram Stokers Dracula" and "Last of the Mohicans" case. Those two titles made many speculate that the black level were "off".

How many make that call watching screenshots? Monitors contrast levels are usually not very reliable. I have a calibrated 24" HP screen. Brightness is 7% to get it close to D65. But contrast is not more than 2-3.000 on such a screen, making it totally unreliable to trust the cinematic experience. The Pioneer Kuro 9 generation has excellent blacks, the X9 has 1:100.000 native and in a dark room, those two movies and Gattopardo looks absolutely stunning.

Last of Mohicans is so dark, that subtitles during nightscenes makes it impossible for the eyes to get accustomed to the darkness, because the light seems so bright. But without, it's like being there. I would say these blu-rays are future proofed and will show more and more of their inherent qualities, as equipment gets better and black levels improve.

Swearengen · 11-26-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Novecento

Really

I have the Criterion BD and it is gorgeous.

I would've said the same ... actually I did

I have the BFI and the Criterion. I would've been very content with the Criterion, hadn't I come across the italian release. The same about Apocalypse Now. Hadn't I watched the HBO HDTV source, I would've thought the new BD release was the ultimate end stage and would've "settled".

KENTA · 11-26-2011, 11:13 PM

The Criterion BD always looked like an Universal release.
Old transfer with edge enhancement all over the place.

Can't wait to get the Italian Blu, thank you very much for the caps.

plabey · 12-30-2011, 07:20 AM

I received the Australian disc today. No black level issue and the screencaps I took look like the French disc with slightly different colors.

compare to andreasy969's caps of the Italian disc:

compare to French caps hereL: http://criterioncast.com/2010/12/05/...e-restoration/

and one to match both the Italian and French caps:

Subs are pale yellow and appear outside the image frame (partially inside when its two lines). Also bdinfo from someone else here: http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/m...5-61a8831ce18f

morris_schaffer · 11-29-2020, 06:37 PM

This disc looked rather excessive, in terms of saturation while the elevated black levels were far too much. Grain is ok but does not seem to swirl entirely organically either while the sound had a harshness to it that was a tad unpleasant.

Speaking of The movie itself, I assumed because of my Italian lineage on my dad's side, and my general appreciation for family epics that it would be up my alley. But it was not. Felt as long as it was. The emotional pull wasn't there in the least, its subject matter only occasionally engaging. Yeah, the ballroom scene, I guess there is some meaning in there, something about the Lancaster character regretting Passing into oblivion as a new era looms but I didn't feel this was conveyed succesfully. I just had the distinct impression it was just folks dancing and talking for 45 minutes. Although the rooms and clothing looked rather opulent I guess.

KootiePie · 10-18-2021, 09:01 AM

I know this is old and probably no one cares, but I managed to get hold of the Japanese release (already had the Criterion one). With a -2500ms shift the subs and commentary from Criterion fit perfectly the Japanese version. You see the subs appear and disappear on exact scene changes.

The JP disc doesn't have any additional logos baked into the movie stream (starts with "funding by Gucci...) so that delay probably applies to other releases from the same source.

Love the movie, gorgeous visuals. Glad I could make myself a "proper" version at least.

sa5150 · 08-01-2025, 08:17 PM

The Italian looks best in the screencaps , Very expensive . What the nest best alternative with English subs ? Criterion looks the worst .

10-04-2011, 12:46 PM	#1
Riki333 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Bologna, Italy 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:617	Il Gattopardo di Luchino Visconti After it came out almost everywhere, The Leopard finally will be published in Italy by Medusa. It will be the restored print from Cineteca di Bologna. Out: 16/11/2011. Most likely there will be English Subs. Amazon.it pre order: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-...7731935&sr=1-3 Saluti

11-26-2011, 11:31 AM	#8
andreasy969 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:125	I received the Italian release today and took some more screen shots. PQ is great IMHO, but I do agree on the black level problem (but I'm not an expert to say it's wrong). Last edited by andreasy969; 11-26-2011 at 11:39 AM.

10-05-2011, 02:05 PM	#2
RDA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:113	Is this the same print that was used on the French release? Will pick this up if it has English subtitles if so.

11-03-2011, 04:45 PM	#4
RDA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:113	Looks great! Is someone going to add this to the database? Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-Ray-Libro-Stelvio-Rosi/dp/B005PD0VWY/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1320074410&sr=1-2

11-03-2011, 07:04 PM	#6
RDA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:113

11-26-2011, 09:48 PM	#9
Swearengen Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	I believe this is a kind of "Bram Stokers Dracula" and "Last of the Mohicans" case. Those two titles made many speculate that the black level were "off". How many make that call watching screenshots? Monitors contrast levels are usually not very reliable. I have a calibrated 24" HP screen. Brightness is 7% to get it close to D65. But contrast is not more than 2-3.000 on such a screen, making it totally unreliable to trust the cinematic experience. The Pioneer Kuro 9 generation has excellent blacks, the X9 has 1:100.000 native and in a dark room, those two movies and Gattopardo looks absolutely stunning. Last of Mohicans is so dark, that subtitles during nightscenes makes it impossible for the eyes to get accustomed to the darkness, because the light seems so bright. But without, it's like being there. I would say these blu-rays are future proofed and will show more and more of their inherent qualities, as equipment gets better and black levels improve.

11-26-2011, 11:13 PM	#11
KENTA Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Austria Blu-ray collection:103	The Criterion BD always looked like an Universal release. Old transfer with edge enhancement all over the place. Can't wait to get the Italian Blu, thank you very much for the caps.

12-30-2011, 07:20 AM	#12
plabey Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:657 DVD collection:219 Trading Score:8	I received the Australian disc today. No black level issue and the screencaps I took look like the French disc with slightly different colors. compare to andreasy969's caps of the Italian disc: compare to French caps hereL: http://criterioncast.com/2010/12/05/...e-restoration/ and one to match both the Italian and French caps: Subs are pale yellow and appear outside the image frame (partially inside when its two lines). Also bdinfo from someone else here: http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/m...5-61a8831ce18f

11-29-2020, 06:37 PM	#13
morris_schaffer Power Member Member since:Aug 2017 Location:Belgium 4K collection:151 Blu-ray collection:413 DVD collection:74	This disc looked rather excessive, in terms of saturation while the elevated black levels were far too much. Grain is ok but does not seem to swirl entirely organically either while the sound had a harshness to it that was a tad unpleasant. Speaking of The movie itself, I assumed because of my Italian lineage on my dad's side, and my general appreciation for family epics that it would be up my alley. But it was not. Felt as long as it was. The emotional pull wasn't there in the least, its subject matter only occasionally engaging. Yeah, the ballroom scene, I guess there is some meaning in there, something about the Lancaster character regretting Passing into oblivion as a new era looms but I didn't feel this was conveyed succesfully. I just had the distinct impression it was just folks dancing and talking for 45 minutes. Although the rooms and clothing looked rather opulent I guess.

10-18-2021, 09:01 AM	#14
KootiePie Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2020 Location:/g/ Blu-ray collection:3	I know this is old and probably no one cares, but I managed to get hold of the Japanese release (already had the Criterion one). With a -2500ms shift the subs and commentary from Criterion fit perfectly the Japanese version. You see the subs appear and disappear on exact scene changes. The JP disc doesn't have any additional logos baked into the movie stream (starts with "funding by Gucci...) so that delay probably applies to other releases from the same source. Love the movie, gorgeous visuals. Glad I could make myself a "proper" version at least.

08-01-2025, 08:17 PM	#15
sa5150 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2011 Location:Chicago IL 4K collection:147 Blu-ray collection:870 DVD collection:322 Digital collection:7 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:10 Trading Score:40	The Italian looks best in the screencaps , Very expensive . What the nest best alternative with English subs ? Criterion looks the worst .

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