The Animation Discussion Thread (Past, Present and Future Techniques) - Blu-ray Forum

Lnds500 · 06-10-2012, 05:32 PM

I am creating this topic simply because this discussion derails every other animation thread there is on this forum ("the death of hand-drawn animation" / Princess and the Frog vs. Tangled / the future of animation / new animation techniques vs. old ones / future of animation).

I will keep it as vague as possible. Feel free to join in the discussion, post (old) news and debate.

UPDATE: I will ask a mod to change the title of this thread to "The Animation Discussion Thread (Past, Present and Future)". Since I created this thread I didn't really want to limit it in a single discussion, but the appropriate form hadn't yet sprung to mind. I would love this to become a place when we can discuss anything animation, whether that's news, a movie, a significant person, animation in live action film, techniques, animation systems, history, CGI vs. hand-drawn - you name it.

Mandalorian · 06-10-2012, 05:38 PM

I'm loving where CG animation is going today, but I desperately wish there were more American 2D animated films. I grew up drawing, and still do from time to time, and I'm currently studying Animation and Graphic Design in school. Sad to see the lack of equality between the two though. Studio Ghibli films getting US theatrical releases is a great thing though. I was happy that Arrietty got such a wide release, but guess what....I didn't even have time to catch it.

SquidPuppet · 06-10-2012, 07:05 PM

I enjoy both equally.

And I really like it when the two techniques are combined in the same work, like in Archer. It looks really weird, but it works for me.

zoodermin · 06-10-2012, 07:50 PM

I like both formats, both have strengths on their own. The thing I don't like is that 2D is almost non-existent nowadays. I like what John Lasseter has done with the Disney Studio and I like the fact that he brought back 2D to the studio and is open for 2D animation features. I think 2D is an essential part of the studio's identity. With that being said, I loved Tangled and I'm really looking forward to Wreck-It Ralph which looks great. Let's hope other good 2D films will follow in the future.

zoodermin · 06-10-2012, 07:54 PM

And regarding The Princess and the Frog vs. Tangled battle, I loved both films but if I have to choose one, it would be Tangled not because it was CGI but I because I liked the story better.

dallywhitty · 06-10-2012, 08:37 PM

I don't think I prefer one over the other. Once you've seen Toy Story as it is, it's difficult to imagine it hand-drawn, just as it's difficult to imagine Snow White and the Seven Dwarves in CGI. However, it would be nice to see more hand-drawn films released today.

bluearth · 06-10-2012, 07:50 PM

I think part of the allure of Hayao Miyazaki's movies is that they are hand drawn.

I think some movies would be better in CG and some better hand drawn

Movies that would fair better as CG are brighter, cheery tales like Toy Story or Cars.

Movies that would fair better as hand drawn are the "darker", more campy animation classics like The Land Before Time and American Tail.

I think Kung Fu Panda would be better as hand drawn, for instance

06-10-2012, 05:32 PM	#1
Lnds500 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Athens, Greece 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:214 DVD collection:30 Digital collection:12 iTunes collection:235 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:75	The Animation Discussion Thread (Past, Present and Future Techniques) I am creating this topic simply because this discussion derails every other animation thread there is on this forum ("the death of hand-drawn animation" / Princess and the Frog vs. Tangled / the future of animation / new animation techniques vs. old ones / future of animation). I will keep it as vague as possible. Feel free to join in the discussion, post (old) news and debate. UPDATE: I will ask a mod to change the title of this thread to "The Animation Discussion Thread (Past, Present and Future)". Since I created this thread I didn't really want to limit it in a single discussion, but the appropriate form hadn't yet sprung to mind. I would love this to become a place when we can discuss anything animation, whether that's news, a movie, a significant person, animation in live action film, techniques, animation systems, history, CGI vs. hand-drawn - you name it. Last edited by Lnds500; 07-03-2012 at 07:47 PM.

06-10-2012, 05:38 PM	#2
Mandalorian Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 4K collection:1130 Blu-ray collection:2783 Trading Score:252	I'm loving where CG animation is going today, but I desperately wish there were more American 2D animated films. I grew up drawing, and still do from time to time, and I'm currently studying Animation and Graphic Design in school. Sad to see the lack of equality between the two though. Studio Ghibli films getting US theatrical releases is a great thing though. I was happy that Arrietty got such a wide release, but guess what....I didn't even have time to catch it.

06-10-2012, 07:05 PM	#3
SquidPuppet Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:277 Blu-ray reviews:27	I enjoy both equally. And I really like it when the two techniques are combined in the same work, like in Archer. It looks really weird, but it works for me.

06-10-2012, 07:50 PM	#4
zoodermin Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2010 Location:New York, NY Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:106 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 63 Trading Score:1	I like both formats, both have strengths on their own. The thing I don't like is that 2D is almost non-existent nowadays. I like what John Lasseter has done with the Disney Studio and I like the fact that he brought back 2D to the studio and is open for 2D animation features. I think 2D is an essential part of the studio's identity. With that being said, I loved Tangled and I'm really looking forward to Wreck-It Ralph which looks great. Let's hope other good 2D films will follow in the future.

06-10-2012, 07:54 PM	#5
zoodermin Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2010 Location:New York, NY Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:106 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 63 Trading Score:1	And regarding The Princess and the Frog vs. Tangled battle, I loved both films but if I have to choose one, it would be Tangled not because it was CGI but I because I liked the story better.

06-10-2012, 08:37 PM	#6
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:319 Blu-ray collection:1679 DVD collection:178	I don't think I prefer one over the other. Once you've seen Toy Story as it is, it's difficult to imagine it hand-drawn, just as it's difficult to imagine Snow White and the Seven Dwarves in CGI. However, it would be nice to see more hand-drawn films released today.

06-10-2012, 07:50 PM	#7
bluearth Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:92 Blu-ray reviews:2	I think part of the allure of Hayao Miyazaki's movies is that they are hand drawn. I think some movies would be better in CG and some better hand drawn Movies that would fair better as CG are brighter, cheery tales like Toy Story or Cars. Movies that would fair better as hand drawn are the "darker", more campy animation classics like The Land Before Time and American Tail. I think Kung Fu Panda would be better as hand drawn, for instance

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