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Old 10-15-2007, 07:52 AM   #1
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I recently purchased a Samsung BDP-1400 which decodes DTS-HD Master Audio. I also purchased a Yamaha RX-V1800 which will decode DTS-HD MAster audio. My question is which sounds better? Should I select PCM in the Samsung setup or select bitstream and let the Yamaha do the work? Please advise with opinions or better yet an explanation of these two sound options....

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I would let the receiver handle it.
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They both sound wonderful but if you have all of that you should probably go with the DTS HD Master Audio option but PCM is flawless and sounds really well as well so really i think its up to you
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I am always of the opinion let the receiver do the audio decoding. That is what is is made to do. Even if in theroy they should sound the same.
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Select bitstream and let your receiver do the brunt work. Using this setting and if you choose the right audio track to play, your receiver will handle LPCM, Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA. Of course, the connection to the receiver must be with a HDMI cable.

Most movies with LPCM tracks are at 16-bit. DTS HDMA can be at 16-bit or 20-bit or higher, and still occupy less space than LPCM. The same can be said about TrueHD. The higher the sampling rate, the better the audio.

Your Samsung can't decode DTS HDMA, just pass it through a compatible receiver. It can decode TrueHD.


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Read this article, it will clear things up for you. It doesn't matter if the player or receiver decodes DTS-HD MA.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._Necessary/853
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Read this article, it will clear things up for you. It doesn't matter if the player or receiver decodes DTS-HD MA.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._Necessary/853

I have read that article a little while ago. But I have heard from plenty of different users that when the player sends out the PCM, like the PS3 on the TrueHD track, that it does not sounds as dynamic as when it is bitstreamed to a player, like the 1400. The track may be the same bit for bit, but the processing seems to be different. So this article seems to be in theory true, but in real life, not so??
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Hi how to get multichannel pcm output from my TV, am getting out as Dolby if I choose auto, if I choose pcm am getting only 2channel pcm Out put only
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Hi how to get multichannel pcm output from my TV, am getting out as Dolby if I choose auto, if I choose pcm am getting only 2channel pcm Out put only
If you are outputting audio over S/PDIF, then you are limited to 2.0 PCM.
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How to check output audio is in S/PDIF in my Sony 4k tv
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How to check output audio is in S/PDIF in my Sony 4k tv
What connection are you using to connect your TV to your sound system?
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Thanks for the quick reply am using hdmi and my audio system is onkyo s333 model am using arc hdmi option if I play dolby audio. Movie in my tv they WD passport my audio system input is dolby 5.1ch and out put also same but if I play dts surround movie input is pcm 2ch and I can use any out put by using my receiver conversion
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Thanks for the quick reply am using hdmi and my audio system is onkyo s333 model am using arc hdmi option if I play dolby audio. Movie in my tv they WD passport my audio system input is dolby 5.1ch and out put also same but if I play dts surround movie input is pcm 2ch and I can use any out put by using my receiver conversion
HDMI ARC shares the same limitations as S/PDIF, and thus only supports DD, DTS and 2.0 PCM.
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How to get multichannel and dts hd ma lossless audio as out put from my TV
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You cannot.
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Why sony4k tv don't have hat option?
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Why sony4k tv don't have hat option?
What is the model number of the TV?

With regards to audio, TV's are limited. Why are you wanting lossless audio to be sent from your TV? No streaming service that I am aware of, provides lossless audio.

I would recommend using your Blu-ray player/source device to stream, this will provide the audio that you are looking for (i.e. multichannel audio, although not lossless).
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Sony 4k model is x8500b tv am using WD hard disk thru usb using media player in my TV playing dolby movies dts hd ma movie also but while playing dts hd ma am getting pcm as input
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Sony 4k model is x8500b tv am using WD hard disk thru usb using media player in my TV playing dolby movies dts hd ma movie also but while playing dts hd ma am getting pcm as input
You cannot really do anything more about this to be honest, as a display is not meant to be a demarcation point for audio/video.

Does your Blu-ray player have a USB input?
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Am having PS3 no worry abt that but I need the output from my TV only bcos all downloaded files are in my hard disk my TV playing all bluray big files too my PS3 not supporting big bluray files
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