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Iamspartacus · 07-20-2012, 01:08 AM

Do movies that get put out on criterion such as StageCoach, BottleRocket, Paths of Glory, 12 Angry Men etc. ever get released in a regular bluray edition? Should I hold out in hopes of saving money or do I just need to buy the more expensive criterion and realize it isn't coming out on regular blu? Thanks.

HyperRealist · 07-20-2012, 01:11 AM

Just buy the Criterion....

Iamspartacus · 07-20-2012, 01:12 AM

Yeah but I like spending 10 dollars or less on blurays if at all possible.

Hatter · 07-20-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamspartacus

Yeah but I like spending 10 dollars or less on blurays if at all possible.

So does everybody. But certain titles are definitely worth splurging a bit more on.

HD Goofnut · 07-20-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatter

So does everybody. But certain titles are definitely worth splurging a bit more on.

$30 versus $10 is a bit more than splurging.

BohemianGraham · 07-20-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

$30 versus $10 is a bit more than splurging.

Some of us buyfilms because we like them, and not because we can get them cheap.

not everyone wants a huge collection. Sometimes I think people want their films for free but don't have the guts to pirate them.

30 dollars is a drop in a bucket these days compared to what films used to cost, and if you're savvy, you can get them for less than that.

What I find amusing is that people won't pay 30 for a single film they absolutely adore, but will pay the same amount for 3-6 films they only half like as much as the one they love. I don't understand that mentality.

bdmartin134 · 07-20-2012, 01:15 AM

Criterion is very well known for their outstanding transfers. Why not own the pinnacle PQ/AQ, and intelligent commentaries/sp. features of such movies that you name? By the way, I'm pretty sure if you can track down a Barnes & Noble they are selling for $19.99 for majority of the titles. That's well worth it in my opinion..

koover · 07-20-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bdmartin134

Criterion is very well known for their outstanding transfers. Why not own the pinnacle PQ/AQ, and intelligent commentaries/sp. features of such movies that you name? By the way, I'm pretty sure if you can track down a Barnes & Noble they are selling for $19.99 for majority of the titles. That's well worth it in my opinion..

Yep....agreed
These are some of the best transfers in the biz. Plus the supplemental features are outstanding. Sometimes ya just gotta splurge and go for it.

steve_dave · 07-20-2012, 01:16 AM

Criterion has exclusive rights to a number of titles in their library. If you want a movie then price shouldn't be an issue. However, there are other avenues although you won't be spending $10 or less. So that option is also pointless.

Iamspartacus · 07-20-2012, 01:21 AM

Ugh. OK, let me rephrase. Have there been ANY instances in which a bluray came out on Criterion and, at a later time, was rereleased in non criterion form? Thanks.

wilky61 · 07-20-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamspartacus

Ugh. OK, let me rephrase. Have there been ANY instances in which a bluray came out on Criterion and, at a later time, was rereleased in non criterion form? Thanks.

It has happened a couple times. Universal Studios has released Blu-Rays for Traffic, Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas, etc.

Back in the old DVD days, there was a Universal Studios release for Rushmore as well as Brazil.

They are almost always inferior to the Criterion releases, though.... maybe the old SE DVD release of Silence of the Lambs was superior to the Criterion DVD for the same movie... but that was one of the very first Criterion DVDs and the SE DVD (MGM? I forget the studio) came out years later...

Long story short: Just buy the Criterion if you like the movie.

vdc530 · 07-20-2012, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamspartacus

Ugh. OK, let me rephrase. Have there been ANY instances in which a bluray came out on Criterion and, at a later time, was rereleased in non criterion form? Thanks.

Yes. Absolutely.

$10 is a lot of money. Shit, I can feed myself the entire day with $10, so how in the world can I justify putting that same $10 towards a Criterion? Because buying a Criterion is like sex for the first time, every time. Sure you can walk into a car dealership and haggle for a better price on a Hyundai like an *******, but for $10 more you can glide in like Jesus and shit on the common people as you step inside an all black 500 Benz. Ok, you probably won't go through all the trouble I do to buy a Criterion, but aside from the experience, the question is do you want to be stuck with a Hyundai or a Mercedes?

chip75 · 07-20-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamspartacus

Ugh. OK, let me rephrase. Have there been ANY instances in which a bluray came out on Criterion and, at a later time, was rereleased in non criterion form? Thanks.

Try other Blu-ray regions for cheaper alternatives. Some will be region locked but some are free.

MifuneFan · 07-20-2012, 01:22 AM

Only on rare occasion will Criterion lose the rights to something and it'll be released by another studio. That happened with The Third Man for instance, and was released by Lionsgate/Studio Canal shortly after, but the transfer was arguably inferior, and the extras were definitely worse.

Bottom Line: Get the damn Criterion. They're all 50% off at Barnes and Noble right now. Some people here who are BN members have actually gotten coupons to work and have gotten them for around $10 each (8 off 40 + 10% off member discount)

koover · 07-20-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hariseldon

Only on rare occasions has it happened when another studio will rescind it's Criterion license and release the movie itself -- The Third Man is probably the best known when Studio Canal went rogue and released an incredibly inferior product. The Third Man is now on the collectors/speculators circuit and routinely fetches $100+ new.

Other side there are a few times (ex. Traffic and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas) when there is a studio Bluray out and the Criterion comes out later with it's Deluxe edition.

If you time the Criterion sales at BN and are creative (or bit lucky) you can get the regular priced discs at $10-15 new. This sale my average price for a new disc has been a bit under $14.

Do you own a few Criterions or what

jrmac2000 · 07-20-2012, 01:38 AM

I have to agree. Just find a way to get the Criterion edition. It is always a definitive or at least a near definitive version of the film. I must caution you though, Criterion can be very addictive!

MifuneFan · 07-20-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jrmac2000

I have to agree. Just find a way to get the Criterion edition. It is always a definitive or at least a near definitive version of the film. I must caution you though, Criterion can be very addictive!

I've managed to keep my addiction to a minimum by having no sort of ambition and thus remaining poor

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07-20-2012, 01:08 AM	#1
Iamspartacus Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:69	? about criterion Do movies that get put out on criterion such as StageCoach, BottleRocket, Paths of Glory, 12 Angry Men etc. ever get released in a regular bluray edition? Should I hold out in hopes of saving money or do I just need to buy the more expensive criterion and realize it isn't coming out on regular blu? Thanks.

07-20-2012, 01:11 AM	#2
HyperRealist Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:PA Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:96 Trading Score:48	Just buy the Criterion....

07-20-2012, 01:12 AM	#3
Iamspartacus Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:69	Yeah but I like spending 10 dollars or less on blurays if at all possible.

07-20-2012, 01:15 AM	#7
bdmartin134 Active Member Member since:Mar 2012 Blu-ray collection:255 Trading Score:7	Criterion is very well known for their outstanding transfers. Why not own the pinnacle PQ/AQ, and intelligent commentaries/sp. features of such movies that you name? By the way, I'm pretty sure if you can track down a Barnes & Noble they are selling for $19.99 for majority of the titles. That's well worth it in my opinion..

07-20-2012, 01:16 AM	#9
steve_dave Blu-ray Duke Member since:Nov 2008 Trading Score:21	Criterion has exclusive rights to a number of titles in their library. If you want a movie then price shouldn't be an issue. However, there are other avenues although you won't be spending $10 or less. So that option is also pointless.

07-20-2012, 01:21 AM	#10
Iamspartacus Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:69	Ugh. OK, let me rephrase. Have there been ANY instances in which a bluray came out on Criterion and, at a later time, was rereleased in non criterion form? Thanks.

07-20-2012, 01:22 AM	#14
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:1145 Trading Score:69	Only on rare occasion will Criterion lose the rights to something and it'll be released by another studio. That happened with The Third Man for instance, and was released by Lionsgate/Studio Canal shortly after, but the transfer was arguably inferior, and the extras were definitely worse. Bottom Line: Get the damn Criterion. They're all 50% off at Barnes and Noble right now. Some people here who are BN members have actually gotten coupons to work and have gotten them for around $10 each (8 off 40 + 10% off member discount)

07-20-2012, 01:38 AM	#16
jrmac2000 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:South Carolina 4K collection:913 Blu-ray collection:6434 DVD collection:1015 Digital collection:480 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:3	I have to agree. Just find a way to get the Criterion edition. It is always a definitive or at least a near definitive version of the film. I must caution you though, Criterion can be very addictive!

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