michaelbay.com Blu-ray Rep: VOTE NOW - Blu-ray Forum

ReduxInflux · 10-24-2007, 08:34 AM

re: atdm71's original thread

And I quote (copied and pasted):

Here's a recommended list of the ready, willing, and able. Suggest reading this thread for background:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=20904

Time is running out! (tomorrow, 12pm EST). Spend less time questioning the list and get to helping us submit a representative we can send along to Nelson, webmaster at michaelbay.com. Everyone on this list, as I'm sure the bulk of you will agree (or will agree after researching and reading through a good chunk of of their posts) can do a great job representing the Blu-ray format, particularly in an online debate with representatives from AVS Forum (possibly others?) pulling hard for the Reds (HD DVD).

Thank you in advance for taking the time to vote and for helping is bring forward a promising debate champ.

Note there have been no clear preferences stated from Nelson as to whether or not this individual needs to be an Insider; News Editor, Moderator or Forum Member. Anybody's game. We just need to make a decision and we need your help!

Can somebody PLEASE "transform" ( ) this pick list into a poll for me? I do not have the ability or access to create a poll.

sure... (and yes...yes you do)

note: I didn't include paidgeek or penton or max, etc. due to their extreme insiderness. (i thought that might be an issue...if it is not, please correct me and add them to the poll, thanks)

bhampton · 10-24-2007, 10:27 AM

I'm finding it funny that a HD DVD supporter may not be found before the noon cut off time. AVS is scrambling to find one as of yet.

Finding a HD DUD supporter that isn't a complete fool is of course impossible by definition.

-Brian

gamer4eva · 10-24-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

I'm finding it funny that a HD DVD supporter may not be found before the noon cut off time. AVS is scrambling to find one as of yet.

Finding a HD DUD supporter that isn't a complete fool is of course impossible by definition.
-Brian

ROFLMFAO

TruBlu2 · 10-24-2007, 12:04 PM

A hddud supporter that is not full of FUD, is IMPOSSIBLE to find.

Lord_Stewie · 10-24-2007, 12:11 PM

Its hard to trust him, since the last time. He might be drinking the kool-aid. and wathing 300 the happy version on HDDVD with Reps like last time.

sphdle1 · 10-24-2007, 12:23 PM

Regardless who is picked to represent Blu, I think many of the guys in the list should be closely involved with the Blu Rep via MSN Messenger (or something), as resources during the debate. We should kinda treat this like a football game. One person carries the ball for the touchdown, but we need a Quarterback, Halfbacks, Coaching staff, etc., backing him & throwing him information. Better to have a team effort crafting what we ask and what we say. Definitely should have our best Technical guys on the sidelines in contact with the Blu Rep (like PaidGeek, etc.). Have our best political guys helping. Have our best defensive strategists who know the beneifts of HD DVD at the current time, and have the best answers for their questions on these already before the debate.

I know the guys will likely do most of this anyway, however just in case it may help, here are some strategies that could be employeed that may help if you don't mind me putting in 2 more cents:

(1) I think the Blu team should definitely take the high road & not do any bashing of HD DVD, but just focus on "educating & informing" the people who are on the fence only, which is Bay's/Nelson's whole objective!

(2) The Blu Rep should not be on the 'defensive' at any point, as that will come across looking weak, but rather should anticipate all the main points or weaknesses of Blu-ray that the HD DVD guys will try to point out/exploit in their questioning/comments, and actually have our Rep "mention/explain these points proactively before the HD DVD side has a chance to; merely as a 'pre' add-on to explaining our strengths". Basically, if we "steal their thunder" first, at every turn, before they have a chance to put us on the defensive & then "end each statement or question with the more important/positive points of Blu-ray", the people on the sidelines will not see Blu's weak points as real weaknesses, and the HD DVD guys will be scambling because the question they were going to ask/or statement they were going to make, won't hold up with the people sitting on the fence. We shouldn't even call them weaknesses, but merely functionality not yet available, but that will be in the near future, explaining when.
For example this was so informative and helpful to me regarding 1.1 specs/PiP, etc: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=18389 (If there are other credible sites/sources to use to back this up it would be good also)

((Don't let them be the ones to brag that they have PiP 7 we don't, but rather let us get the word out we have it as of Oct 31, and movies to follow can take advantage, even as of now in some cases.))

(3) Definitely want to be prepared to back up everything we say with stats, credible sources, etc., "prior" to the debate, so that we're not really even debating, but more so, just informing/educating those on the fence on why Blu is the future format replacement for DVD.

OK that's more than 2 cents, but if there's any way I can help in terms of planning and strategy, I thought it wouldn't hurt to at least put it out there & try to be helpful.

Bluray_ne1 · 10-24-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphdle1

OK that's more than 2 cents, but if there's any way I can help in terms of planning and strategy, I thought it wouldn't hurt to at least put it out there & try to be helpful.

A well-said 2 cents, my friend.

Zazou · 10-24-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphdle1

(1) I think the Blu team should definitely take the high road & not do any bashing of HD DVD, but just focus on "educating & informing" the people who are on the fence only, which is Bay's/Nelson's whole objective!

Absolutely, well said.

Rustmonsteru · 10-24-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphdle1

(1) I think the Blu team should definitely take the high road & not do any bashing of HD DVD, but just focus on "educating & informing" the people who are on the fence only, which is Bay's/Nelson's whole objective!

Agreed. Impressions and how one carries themselves are as important as what's being said. No bashing but let's not be sanctimonius either. Good luck.

theknub · 10-24-2007, 03:40 PM

i voted for one of the tech heads... no offense josh

granted, josh can write... so i say we get josh in some IM chat room with gary, deci, and wicky... i think pwnage would be the term used to describe the outcome

kjack · 10-24-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphdle1

Regardless who is picked to represent Blu, I think many of the guys in the list should be closely involved with the Blu Rep via MSN Messenger (or something), as resources during the debate.

I have no doubt that the red team will be doing just that. And I expect a few new things to be casually mentioned by them to try to catch the blue team off guard.

Monkey · 10-25-2007, 12:20 AM

I'd say Dobyblue as he's great with pulling stats and whenever he brings facts it simply pisses off HD DVD fanatics.

Plenty of other good choices like JTK, Dialog, etc.

I hope they choose Lee Stewart, nah we'd want a least a little challenge right? Would we even have to show up with him representing HD DVD fanatics

Papi4baby · 10-25-2007, 12:46 AM

I voted for WW.

atdm71 · 10-24-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReduxInflux

re: atdm71's original thread

And I quote (copied and pasted):

Here's a recommended list of the ready, willing, and able. Suggest reading this thread for background:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=20904

Time is running out! (tomorrow, 12pm EST). Spend less time questioning the list and get to helping us submit a representative we can send along to Nelson, webmaster at michaelbay.com. Everyone on this list, as I'm sure the bulk of you will agree (or will agree after researching and reading through a good chunk of of their posts) can do a great job representing the Blu-ray format, particularly in an online debate with representatives from AVS Forum (possibly others?) pulling hard for the Reds (HD DVD).

Thank you in advance for taking the time to vote and for helping is bring forward a promising debate champ.

Note there have been no clear preferences stated from Nelson as to whether or not this individual needs to be an Insider; News Editor, Moderator or Forum Member. Anybody's game. We just need to make a decision and we need your help!

Can somebody PLEASE "transform" ( ) this pick list into a poll for me? I do not have the ability or access to create a poll.

sure... (and yes...yes you do)

note: I didn't include paidgeek or penton or max, etc. due to their extreme insiderness. (i thought that might be an issue...if it is not, please correct me and add them to the poll, thanks)

Thank you so very much, sir!

webmaster@michaelbay · 10-24-2007, 02:14 PM

So I guess the people vote for Josh?

atdm71 · 10-24-2007, 02:21 PM

Doubt it will change much. Though it appears somebody took some editorial liberties to add "the one...the only:" before his name (still appreciate the help getting the poll created).

MrBogey · 10-24-2007, 02:26 PM

Dialog is a very close 2nd to me but I picked Josh. All the choices listed are good.

CptGreedle · 10-24-2007, 02:26 PM

I still see no real point to this, except entertainment value.
Soooo.... GO JOSH!

Sonny · 10-24-2007, 02:39 PM

Josh is the man with the info, I just dont no how tech headed he is?But I'm sure he would do great for the BLU Team!!

atdm71 · 10-24-2007, 02:42 PM

Really too bad it has to be just one. There's a heckuva lot of good talent on that list; all of whom would make especially valuable contributions on behalf of the Blu-ray format, including Penton-Man and Paidgeek.

My final comment on this -- Nelson, yourself and Mr. Bay, I'm sure, would enjoy insightful, informative and entertaining conversation about the Blu-ray format with this panel, following the online debate. Here's also hoping you indulge the opportunity.

View Poll Results: Who Do You Elect to Rep Blu-ray in a debate hosted by MichaelBay.com?
Josh	148	52.86%
JTK	5	1.79%
WickyWoo	73	26.07%
DobyBlu	14	5.00%
Deciazulado	17	6.07%
IceMan	6	2.14%
Damonous	5	1.79%
Dialog.gvf	7	2.50%
GoldenRedux	1	0.36%
Other (write in)	4	1.43%
Voters: 280. You may not vote on this poll

10-24-2007, 08:34 AM	#1
ReduxInflux Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:orange county, ca Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:3	michaelbay.com Blu-ray Rep: VOTE NOW re: atdm71's original thread And I quote (copied and pasted): Here's a recommended list of the ready, willing, and able. Suggest reading this thread for background: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=20904 Time is running out! (tomorrow, 12pm EST). Spend less time questioning the list and get to helping us submit a representative we can send along to Nelson, webmaster at michaelbay.com. Everyone on this list, as I'm sure the bulk of you will agree (or will agree after researching and reading through a good chunk of of their posts) can do a great job representing the Blu-ray format, particularly in an online debate with representatives from AVS Forum (possibly others?) pulling hard for the Reds (HD DVD). Thank you in advance for taking the time to vote and for helping is bring forward a promising debate champ. Note there have been no clear preferences stated from Nelson as to whether or not this individual needs to be an Insider; News Editor, Moderator or Forum Member. Anybody's game. We just need to make a decision and we need your help! Can somebody PLEASE "transform" ( ) this pick list into a poll for me? I do not have the ability or access to create a poll. sure... (and yes...yes you do) note: I didn't include paidgeek or penton or max, etc. due to their extreme insiderness. (i thought that might be an issue...if it is not, please correct me and add them to the poll, thanks) Last edited by ReduxInflux; 10-24-2007 at 08:44 AM.

10-24-2007, 12:23 PM	#6
sphdle1 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Nova Scotia, Canada	Regardless who is picked to represent Blu, I think many of the guys in the list should be closely involved with the Blu Rep via MSN Messenger (or something), as resources during the debate. We should kinda treat this like a football game. One person carries the ball for the touchdown, but we need a Quarterback, Halfbacks, Coaching staff, etc., backing him & throwing him information. Better to have a team effort crafting what we ask and what we say. Definitely should have our best Technical guys on the sidelines in contact with the Blu Rep (like PaidGeek, etc.). Have our best political guys helping. Have our best defensive strategists who know the beneifts of HD DVD at the current time, and have the best answers for their questions on these already before the debate. I know the guys will likely do most of this anyway, however just in case it may help, here are some strategies that could be employeed that may help if you don't mind me putting in 2 more cents: (1) I think the Blu team should definitely take the high road & not do any bashing of HD DVD, but just focus on "educating & informing" the people who are on the fence only, which is Bay's/Nelson's whole objective! (2) The Blu Rep should not be on the 'defensive' at any point, as that will come across looking weak, but rather should anticipate all the main points or weaknesses of Blu-ray that the HD DVD guys will try to point out/exploit in their questioning/comments, and actually have our Rep "mention/explain these points proactively before the HD DVD side has a chance to; merely as a 'pre' add-on to explaining our strengths". Basically, if we "steal their thunder" first, at every turn, before they have a chance to put us on the defensive & then "end each statement or question with the more important/positive points of Blu-ray", the people on the sidelines will not see Blu's weak points as real weaknesses, and the HD DVD guys will be scambling because the question they were going to ask/or statement they were going to make, won't hold up with the people sitting on the fence. We shouldn't even call them weaknesses, but merely functionality not yet available, but that will be in the near future, explaining when. For example this was so informative and helpful to me regarding 1.1 specs/PiP, etc: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=18389 (If there are other credible sites/sources to use to back this up it would be good also) ((Don't let them be the ones to brag that they have PiP 7 we don't, but rather let us get the word out we have it as of Oct 31, and movies to follow can take advantage, even as of now in some cases.)) (3) Definitely want to be prepared to back up everything we say with stats, credible sources, etc., "prior" to the debate, so that we're not really even debating, but more so, just informing/educating those on the fence on why Blu is the future format replacement for DVD. OK that's more than 2 cents, but if there's any way I can help in terms of planning and strategy, I thought it wouldn't hurt to at least put it out there & try to be helpful. Last edited by sphdle1; 10-24-2007 at 01:01 PM.

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10-24-2007, 10:27 AM	#2
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	I'm finding it funny that a HD DVD supporter may not be found before the noon cut off time. AVS is scrambling to find one as of yet. Finding a HD DUD supporter that isn't a complete fool is of course impossible by definition. -Brian

10-24-2007, 12:04 PM	#4
TruBlu2 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	A hddud supporter that is not full of FUD, is IMPOSSIBLE to find.

10-24-2007, 12:11 PM	#5
Lord_Stewie Blu-ray Baron Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:396 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Its hard to trust him, since the last time. He might be drinking the kool-aid. and wathing 300 the happy version on HDDVD with Reps like last time.

10-24-2007, 03:40 PM	#10
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	i voted for one of the tech heads... no offense josh granted, josh can write... so i say we get josh in some IM chat room with gary, deci, and wicky... i think pwnage would be the term used to describe the outcome

10-25-2007, 12:20 AM	#12
Monkey Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:31	I'd say Dobyblue as he's great with pulling stats and whenever he brings facts it simply pisses off HD DVD fanatics. Plenty of other good choices like JTK, Dialog, etc. I hope they choose Lee Stewart, nah we'd want a least a little challenge right? Would we even have to show up with him representing HD DVD fanatics

10-25-2007, 12:46 AM	#13
Papi4baby Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:That man from Nantucket Blu-ray collection:32	I voted for WW.

10-24-2007, 02:14 PM	#15
webmaster@michaelbay webmaster@michaelbay.com Member since:Aug 2007	So I guess the people vote for Josh?

10-24-2007, 02:21 PM	#16
atdm71 Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:6	Doubt it will change much. Though it appears somebody took some editorial liberties to add "the one...the only:" before his name (still appreciate the help getting the poll created).

10-24-2007, 02:26 PM	#17
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	Dialog is a very close 2nd to me but I picked Josh. All the choices listed are good.

10-24-2007, 02:26 PM	#18
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	I still see no real point to this, except entertainment value. Soooo.... GO JOSH!

10-24-2007, 02:39 PM	#19
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	Josh is the man with the info, I just dont no how tech headed he is?But I'm sure he would do great for the BLU Team!!

10-24-2007, 02:42 PM	#20
atdm71 Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:6	Really too bad it has to be just one. There's a heckuva lot of good talent on that list; all of whom would make especially valuable contributions on behalf of the Blu-ray format, including Penton-Man and Paidgeek. My final comment on this -- Nelson, yourself and Mr. Bay, I'm sure, would enjoy insightful, informative and entertaining conversation about the Blu-ray format with this panel, following the online debate. Here's also hoping you indulge the opportunity.

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