Pirates of the Caribbean 1:85:1

[kojmuffin]

The blu aspect ratio is 2.40:1. But on encore hd, it's 1.85:1

[Lyle_JP]

It was shot Super35. No surprise here.

[Pieter V]

Most of the time movies on TV are full screen.

[kojmuffin]

It's just bizarre that the original aspect ratio is 2.40:1, but a 1.85:1 version of the film is out there. I guess to compensate for televised 4x3 airings, but I always thought that was done through zooming/cropping of the original film.

[Nailwraps]

Didn't know this was shot at Super35.

But yeah, when it comes to HD, 2.35:1 films are mostly cropped to 1.78:1 so it can fit the whole TV. If it was shot at Super35, then a 2.35:1 will be open-matte to 1.78:1.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Watch for spring boards on the floor and all kinds of other shit that wasn't supposed to be in frame. Wasn't there a framing issue with the first batch of bd's of the first film anyway?
They don't just open matte super-35 for cable, they crop the crap out of anamorphic 2.39 flicks too. Caught the end of Jaws 4 the other day and it was cropped. I hate it cropped!

[Rizor]

Originally Posted by kojmuffin

It's just bizarre that the original aspect ratio is 2.40:1, but a 1.85:1 version of the film is out there. I guess to compensate for televised 4x3 airings, but I always thought that was done through zooming/cropping of the original film.

Traditionally, 35mm film has a full frame of 1.37:1.

1.85:1 films as well as some 2.35:1 films (shot in Super 35) shoot this full 1.37:1 image and crop the tops and bottoms of the frame to the desired aspect ratio. For 2.35:1 films this can lead to a grainy picture so many 2.35:1 films are shot with anamorphic lenses that distort the image (essentially stretching out faces vertically) so it takes up the full 1.37:1 frame and the movie is later projected at the proper ratio. Since these do not have more information at the tops and bottoms, they will be pan & scanned if shown at a taller aspect ratio. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_format

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by Rizor

Traditionally, 35mm film has a full frame of 1.37:1.

1.85:1 films as well as some 2.35:1 films (shot in Super 35) shoot this full 1.37:1 image and crop the tops and bottoms of the frame to the desired aspect ratio.

Not exactly. Super 35 uses the area of the film normally reserved for the soundtrack to store a wider image. The AR of a Super 35 image on the negative is 1.66:1, not 1.37:1. The 2.35:1 image is then extracted from this and either blown up optically to Panavision or, in the case of Pirates (which used a "digital" intermediate), digitally scanned and then printed to anamorphic prints.