Lack of film grain in Hindi movies

[facepalmmonkey]

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[ravenus]

1) Youtube versions are in no way representative of what a movie is going to look like on home video. Youtube itself performs all manner of lossy filtering/compression tricks to save bandwidth.

2) DNR / Detail varies a good deal from title to title, and depends on authoring studio. Typically YRF titles are better for older movies. With new movies it's very hit and miss, some look great while others can look washed out. Sometimes same label outsources the encoding of different movies to different studios, and the results vary.

3) In the case of DVD's more filtering / noise reduction was applied to the master in order to keep file size down in the final encode. Also ignorant authoring houses apply automated settings without being bothered about how it affects film texture. If such older masters are used to make blu-rays etc. they will show such defects. Public perception also is warped sometimes, preferring a waxy clean image with boosted color to one with film grain.

[srinivas1015]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Public perception also is warped sometimes, preferring a waxy clean image with boosted color to one with film grain.

I lost track of the number of people who have complained about grain. Most of them ask "Why is the picture so bad? This doesn't look like a blu-ray.". After explaining after film grain, the usual response is "What's the point of blu-ray and paying more if it gives you a worse-looking picture?".

[Dragun]

Sometimes the DNR is baked into the DI, so there's nothing the authoring house can do about it.

Macroblocking results from too much compression, not DNR. But yes, egregious DNR can remove fine detail, often causing "holes" in the image on moving objects.

I saw a comparison between the DVD of Police Academy and the Blu-Ray (German, I think), and the Blu-Ray had so much DNR that it truly had no more detail than the DVD. The only difference was that the Blu-Ray had better compression and colors.

[nitin]

I'm convinced that a lot of the newer titles have DNR added during the DI process to smooth the appearance of certain stars. That is the only way to explain why so many newer titles have wildly different detail quality from scene to scene.