Trying to Understand Rob Zombie's Halloween II - Blu-ray Forum

TheManWhoIsReady1969 · 11-04-2014, 07:33 AM

Hi,
I'm a big fan of the original 8 Halloween films and wasn't a big fan of Rob Zombie's first effort in the Halloween franchise but I recently been hearing from a lot of fans that Rob Zombie's Halloween II is a underrated masterpiece and I'm simply trying to be convinced by that statement.So please leave your overall thought's on the film either positive or negative down bellow so I can understand.
Thank you,

Terrorfirmer · 11-04-2014, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheManWhoIsReady1969

Hi,
I'm a big fan of the original 8 Halloween films and wasn't a big fan of Rob Zombie's first effort in the Halloween franchise but I recently been hearing from a lot of fans that Rob Zombie's Halloween II is a underrated masterpiece and I'm simply trying to be convinced by that statement.So please leave your overall thought's on the film either positive or negative down bellow so I can understand.
Thank you,

theyre lying.

Blu-ray Neo · 11-04-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrorfirmer

theyre lying.

This is the absolute truth.

L.J. · 11-04-2014, 10:12 AM

I like the film but a masterpeice no. Actually like his Halloween better than his sequel. Of course neither measure up to Carpenter's. I do like how it portrays Myer's as some one who has a tortured soul. When he kills in 2 its like he's trying to drive or stab the pain out of himself. In the end the only way he got peace was to kill everyone that was involved with him. Again I like it but don't consider it a masterpiece or classic.

Steedeel · 11-04-2014, 10:42 AM

First of all, RZ H2 is far superior to Ressurection.
I found H2 to be interesting. Laurie and Annie really seemed to have been traumatised by previous events and that isn't alaways realistically potrayed in horror.
The film was brutal (myers especially) and the first 30 minutes were well done. Things did tail off in the second half but there was still enough in this film for me to enjoy it as a whole.
I dont think I have bad taste. I watch many genres of film and my favourites are shawshank, Alien/Aliens, T1/T2, Elephant man, Goodfellas, Leon, The Exorcist, Halloween (original), Silence Of The Lambs, The Shining etc.. Just to give you guys a idea of my taste. I cant bring myself to hate Rob Zombie's efforts.
I also dont subscribe to this 'spoils the franchise' nonsense. The original Halloween 2 did that all by itself. It was a sterile, soulless film and a cash in imo. The original Halloween will always stand alone as a classic. Even if Halloween was reinvented every five years it still would not diminish the original film.

For reference, here is my list
Five star ratings

Halloween (original) *****
Halloween H20***
Halloween remake ***
Halloween 2 (RZ) ***
Halloween 4 **
Halloween 5 **
Halloween 2 **
Halloween 6 *
Halloween Resurrection no stars

Blu-ray Neo · 11-04-2014, 12:22 PM

This is the only known way of ridding ourselves of ALL copies of RZH2 on DVD and BD...

dissention · 11-04-2014, 12:51 PM

The one where Michael Myers flips over a car and Laurie Strode adorns her bedroom with a giant poster of Charles Manson's mugshot? It's a piece of shit and that doesn't need convincing, it's all right there on the screen.

Mikezilla3k · 05-15-2023, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrorfirmer

theyre lying.

Glad we're beyond idiotic times like back them.

Rob Zombie's Halloween II is amazing.

Steedeel · 05-15-2023, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Glad we're beyond idiotic times like back them.

Rob Zombie's Halloween II is amazing.

Most harrowing scene of the franchise.

Blu Myers · 11-04-2014, 01:03 PM

Ok I'll bite. I personally love Zombie's Halloween II, and I don't like his first outing nearly as much. It is a very different film than any other Halloween film (or even slasher films in general), right down to the film stock. It's a dark, grim movie. I love the grainy 16mm stock that was used. Zombie really tried to make this HIS Halloween movie, with no apologies. He didn't even use the iconic theme and I think it works given the vastly different tone of the film.

This story is about the aftermath of a massacre, and the effect it has on the survivors. STC really dug in and gave a chilling performance (and I couldn't stand her in the first one). She's beaten down and it really shows. Her relationship with Annie is scarred and the director's cut really focuses on this. Danielle Harris is great too, and there is one scene at the end that is beautifully executed (again, in the director's cut). If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.

I think it is important to separate yourself from the rest of the Halloween films before watching HII, because it is very different.

I actually prefer the ending of the theatrical cut, but overall the DC is the way to go...maybe another editing project will be added to my to-do list

Spencer_Kain92 · 11-04-2014, 01:25 PM

The Carpenter version is undoubtedly a masterpiece, and the other films I like, and I actually really did enjoy Rob's Halloween 1 but number 2, not so much, most definitley not a masterpiece.

Steedeel · 11-04-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Myers

Ok I'll bite. I personally love Zombie's Halloween II, and I don't like his first outing nearly as much. It is a very different film than any other Halloween film (or even slasher films in general), right down to the film stock. It's a dark, grim movie. I love the grainy 16mm stock that was used. Zombie really tried to make this HIS Halloween movie, with no apologies. He didn't even use the iconic theme and I think it works given the vastly different tone of the film.

This story is about the aftermath of a massacre, and the effect it has on the survivors. STC really dug in and gave a chilling performance (and I couldn't stand her in the first one). She's beaten down and it really shows. Her relationship with Annie is scarred and the director's cut really focuses on this. Danielle Harris is great too, and there is one scene at the end that is beautifully executed (again, in the director's cut). If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.

I think it is important to separate yourself from the rest of the Halloween films before watching HII, because it is very different.

I actually prefer the ending of the theatrical cut, but overall the DC is the way to go...maybe another editing project will be added to my to-do list

Agree with this.

11-04-2014, 07:33 AM	#1
TheManWhoIsReady1969 Banned Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Loomis Ca, & Citrus Height Ca,	Trying to Understand Rob Zombie's Halloween II Hi, I'm a big fan of the original 8 Halloween films and wasn't a big fan of Rob Zombie's first effort in the Halloween franchise but I recently been hearing from a lot of fans that Rob Zombie's Halloween II is a underrated masterpiece and I'm simply trying to be convinced by that statement.So please leave your overall thought's on the film either positive or negative down bellow so I can understand. Thank you,

11-04-2014, 10:12 AM	#4
L.J. Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2013 Location:South Carolina 4K collection:251 Blu-ray collection:754 DVD collection:23 Blu-ray reviews: 145 Trading Score:56	I like the film but a masterpeice no. Actually like his Halloween better than his sequel. Of course neither measure up to Carpenter's. I do like how it portrays Myer's as some one who has a tortured soul. When he kills in 2 its like he's trying to drive or stab the pain out of himself. In the end the only way he got peace was to kill everyone that was involved with him. Again I like it but don't consider it a masterpiece or classic.

11-04-2014, 10:42 AM	#5
Steedeel Blu-ray King Member since:Apr 2011 Location:England 4K collection:284 Blu-ray collection:1253	First of all, RZ H2 is far superior to Ressurection. I found H2 to be interesting. Laurie and Annie really seemed to have been traumatised by previous events and that isn't alaways realistically potrayed in horror. The film was brutal (myers especially) and the first 30 minutes were well done. Things did tail off in the second half but there was still enough in this film for me to enjoy it as a whole. I dont think I have bad taste. I watch many genres of film and my favourites are shawshank, Alien/Aliens, T1/T2, Elephant man, Goodfellas, Leon, The Exorcist, Halloween (original), Silence Of The Lambs, The Shining etc.. Just to give you guys a idea of my taste. I cant bring myself to hate Rob Zombie's efforts. I also dont subscribe to this 'spoils the franchise' nonsense. The original Halloween 2 did that all by itself. It was a sterile, soulless film and a cash in imo. The original Halloween will always stand alone as a classic. Even if Halloween was reinvented every five years it still would not diminish the original film. For reference, here is my list Five star ratings Halloween (original) *** Halloween H20* Halloween remake * Halloween 2 (RZ) * Halloween 4 Halloween 5 Halloween 2 ** Halloween 6 * Halloween Resurrection no stars

11-04-2014, 12:22 PM	#6
Blu-ray Neo Special Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Duncan, SC USA 4K collection:186 Blu-ray collection:2087 DVD collection:71 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:156	This is the only known way of ridding ourselves of ALL copies of RZH2 on DVD and BD...

11-04-2014, 12:51 PM	#7
dissention Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2011 4K collection:156 Blu-ray collection:1880 DVD collection:225	The one where Michael Myers flips over a car and Laurie Strode adorns her bedroom with a giant poster of Charles Manson's mugshot? It's a piece of shit and that doesn't need convincing, it's all right there on the screen.

11-04-2014, 01:03 PM	#10
Blu Myers Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Haddonfield, IL Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:655 Digital collection:10 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:108	Ok I'll bite. I personally love Zombie's Halloween II, and I don't like his first outing nearly as much. It is a very different film than any other Halloween film (or even slasher films in general), right down to the film stock. It's a dark, grim movie. I love the grainy 16mm stock that was used. Zombie really tried to make this HIS Halloween movie, with no apologies. He didn't even use the iconic theme and I think it works given the vastly different tone of the film. This story is about the aftermath of a massacre, and the effect it has on the survivors. STC really dug in and gave a chilling performance (and I couldn't stand her in the first one). She's beaten down and it really shows. Her relationship with Annie is scarred and the director's cut really focuses on this. Danielle Harris is great too, and there is one scene at the end that is beautifully executed (again, in the director's cut). If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. I think it is important to separate yourself from the rest of the Halloween films before watching HII, because it is very different. I actually prefer the ending of the theatrical cut, but overall the DC is the way to go...maybe another editing project will be added to my to-do list

11-04-2014, 01:25 PM	#11
Spencer_Kain92 Power Member Member since:Jan 2013 Location:Texas 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1861 DVD collection:15 Trading Score:157	The Carpenter version is undoubtedly a masterpiece, and the other films I like, and I actually really did enjoy Rob's Halloween 1 but number 2, not so much, most definitley not a masterpiece.

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