Sony's Peter Dille talks in-game XMB

[Shin-Ra]

Sony's Peter Dille talks in-game XMB

"As far as in-game XMB access, we know it's a feature that's important to our consumers. Because PS3 packs so much advanced technology 'under the hood,' it takes some time to implement major, new functionalities, but we are working hard on addressing this feature, as well as continually expand the capabilities and functionalities of PS3."

[MrBogey]

I think, and I'm just guessing, that a big part of it is streamlining the OS to reduce the overall memory requirements so they can get in-game XMB to work without pinching developers.

[TheTenth]

the downloadable bowling game has it all ready (a developer answered about the jukebox seen in one of the pics as being the access to your own music), so I think it's already in 2.00 firmware, only developers need to put it in games now (or update games like Ridge racer and Motorstorm)

[jorg]

Originally Posted by TheTenth

the downloadable bowling game has it all ready (a developer answered about the jukebox seen in one of the pics as being the access to your own music), so I think it's already in 2.00 firmware, only developers need to put it in games now (or update games like Ridge racer and Motorstorm)

yes i recall sony saying that its up to the developers to put it in or not

[ezcobar411]

It is available to put in the game at their own discretion. The fact that Sony is going to make this a universal feature in every game will satisfy many consumers. I personally don't mind it not being there much.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by TheTenth

the downloadable bowling game has it all ready (a developer answered about the jukebox seen in one of the pics as being the access to your own music), so I think it's already in 2.00 firmware, only developers need to put it in games now (or update games like Ridge racer and Motorstorm)

I think the XMB "issue" is about the option to make it more generally accessible - without having to rely on developers to implement it. As you say it's already there and has been for awhile now.

[Jamh]

I'm pretty sure you won't see in-game XMB until Home is released.

[Icemage]

Please please please please please please please please please let this come ASAP.

Messaging friends in-game is extremely important - it's absurdly annoying that I can't respond to a friend's invitation for one game while playing another without stopping what I'm doing.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

I think the XMB "issue" is about the option to make it more generally accessible - without having to rely on developers to implement it. As you say it's already there and has been for awhile now.

Quite, it changes the implementation method.

Currently, the games can call up OS features/functions.

What we're looking for, is something more akin to how the Blade works. Where the interface stays loaded in memory and can over-ride game render.

And of course, potential rework how the sound bus works so you can mix the sound-streams properly.

The big thing I see is just making sure that they can reserve enough memory for the XMB to function without stepping into memory games may have addressed...

[phranctoast]

Originally Posted by MrBogey

I think, and I'm just guessing, that a big part of it is streamlining the OS to reduce the overall memory requirements so they can get in-game XMB to work without pinching developers.

This is more than likely, exactly correct. Each update decreases the memory required for the OS, so they are probably trying to find a happy medium with the memory usage and the future developer usage.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by phranctoast

This is more than likely, exactly correct. Each update decreases the memory required for the OS, so they are probably trying to find a happy medium with the memory usage and the future developer usage.

I know this is a bit off topic, but I am absolutely amazed that at this point in console gaming, memory seems to still be a bottleneck. Has the cost of memory not come down at all over the last 10+ years to allow companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo to include copius amounts into their hardware?!? I look at the PS3 and for as awesome as it is, I can't help but think that just a few more mb of memory would've been sooooooo huge! It's like you're taking a Ferrari for a spin but it doesn't have quite enough gas in it to push it's top speed!

[statikcat]

Ya I have thought the same thing about memory. Doesn't the PS3 only have 256mb? That is probably under 30$ worth .. depending on the type.

[jorg]

Originally Posted by statikcat

Ya I have thought the same thing about memory. Doesn't the PS3 only have 256mb? That is probably under 30$ worth .. depending on the type.

ps3 has 256 xrd memory 3.2ghz speed around 10 it costs and 256 graphics memory but for ps3 they count as same thing

I know this is a bit off topic, but I am absolutely amazed that at this point in console gaming, memory seems to still be a bottleneck. Has the cost of memory not come down at all over the last 10+ years to allow companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo to include copius amounts into their hardware?!? I look at the PS3 and for as awesome as it is, I can't help but think that just a few more mb of memory would've been sooooooo huge! It's like you're taking a Ferrari for a spin but it doesn't have quite enough gas in it to push it's top speed!

and when happens in 7 years when they wnat to lower teh console price to around 130 but cant becuase the memory costs 20$ alone
? lol