The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) 4K UHD

[Pieter V]

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4K Blu-ray

Specifications of UHD 4K Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 mono // music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
picture format: 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels) - 4-fold resolution of Full HD
subtitle: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German


Technical specifications of Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 Mono // Music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
image format 1080p24 Full HD (1.78: 1) - Digitally remastered in 4K
subtitles: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German

Amenities bonus Blu-ray:

- Documentaries and Interviews "The Chainsaw Business", "From grandfather sewing box", "The chainsaw cut", "The sacred soil of Horrors"
- documentaries "TCM - A Family Portrait", "The Shocking Truth", "Flesh Wounds" and "Off the Hook"
- A tour of the TCM-house with Gunnar Hansen
- Deleted scenes and outtakes
- "the Shocking Truth" -Outtakes
- 40th Anniversary trailer, trailer (USA, D), US TV & Radio Spots

[peterraes]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Amazon.de - pre-order

Will update this topic soon.

really excited about this,a catalogue title wich was restored...pray they dont feel it needs additional "pop" (HDR) or this will be ruined!
Just give us the gritty look as it originally is (plenty of thick grain!),4K yes,WCG yes 10 bit yes,no HDR and no DNR ffs

[meremortal]

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

[peterraes]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting Clerks for even a blu ray release and thinking it was an unnecessary cash grab.

"The new version of the film will be released in theaters this summer with a brand new 4K transfer, roughly four times the resolution of today’s more commonly used 2K for cinema. This is the only transfer of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre to go back to the original 16mm A/B rolls, the actual film that rolled through the cameras."
sweet aint it^^

[bailey1987]

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

[montyb]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

It doesn't matter what country they come out in. UHD blu ray discs are not region coded. Just the blu ray that accompanies the UHD disc (unless the standard blu ray is region free).
So import away bailey1987 if you are referring to the 4K UHD disc.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

You know what's more annoying? I live in Singapore but 90% of my Blu-rays are from the US. Because believe it or not, it's cheaper to buy it off Amazon than a local store here.

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[42041]

Originally Posted by peterraes

"The new version of the film will be released in theaters this summer with a brand new 4K transfer, roughly four times the resolution of today’s more commonly used 2K for cinema. This is the only transfer of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre to go back to the original 16mm A/B rolls, the actual film that rolled through the cameras."
sweet aint it^^

You can scan it at 16k if you want, that doesn't mean 1970s 16mm Ektachrome can actually resolve anything close to it. I doubt there will be any meaningful resolution advantage vs 1080p here.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by 42041

You can scan it at 16k if you want, that doesn't mean 1970s 16mm Ektachrome can actually resolve anything close to it. I doubt there will be any meaningful resolution advantage vs 1080p here.

And yet the new 4k master resolves more detail

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

And yet they made Amy look worse...

And 16mm can give a ton of detail due to a 4k master:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=...1&l=1&i=0&go=1

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

And yet they made Amy look worse...

And 16mm can give a ton of detail due to a 4k master:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=...1&l=1&i=0&go=1

LOL, this is because the first 2K master was terrible and was older than dirt. A modern 2K restoration would've given the same improvement. Way to post an extremely misleading conclusion. Here, I can do the same:

Criterion = 2K master, Studio Canal = 4K master - Conclusion: 2K > 4K

Originally Posted by dvdmike;

The previous scan was modern

That blu ray release ITSELF is from 2008. And it has the exact same master which was used on the Ultimate Edition DVD from 2006:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=287...0&a=1&go=1&l=1

We know that the scan is not newer than 2006. At LEAST, but is probably even older. So how the hell can that be considered "modern"? Here are some differences between old 2K masters and 2K masters that are really modern:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...5&l=1&i=0&go=1

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=229...0&a=1&go=1&l=1

[DarknessBDJM]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

16mm negative has a higher analogous resolution, greater color gamut/range, three dimensional composition, dynamic range, etc. than pure digital 4K. The main problem comparing film on digital vs. native analog film is that the conversion of film to digital is quite lossy, even with modern scanners. That being said, I'll bet on a UHD disk of a 16mm film looking quite a bit better than a 1080p release considering the large bump in resolution, color depth, etc.

I KEEL YOU, you are comparing a lot more than a 4K scan vs. a 1080p or 2K scan, there's also the issue of encoding, use of post processing filtering (as the non-Criterion disk clearly has plenty of), etc. The old TCSM scan still holds up well to modern 1080p and 2K scans.

[42041]

Originally Posted by DarknessBDJM

16mm negative has a higher analogous resolution, greater color gamut/range, three dimensional composition, dynamic range, etc. than pure digital 4K.

Can we stop throwing out these ludicrous film resolution specs? It absolutely does not, by any meaningful metric (it might take more than 4K to resolve all the gory molecular details of the emulsion, but when you're resolving any additional image detail, who cares?). Not super16 film from 2016, and especially not 16mm film (not a negative in this case - it was shot on color reversal Ektachrome) from 1974.

[SonSon III]

Hi all, first post here in ages (I don't recall my username during the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray format war).

This release is so underrated it creeps me out. As a video enthusiast and physical 16mm collector, I can honestly admit that I didn't expect anything from this release beyond the already beautiful 40th anniversary 4K remastered release on BR. I was under the assumption that 1080p was overkill already, but I'm happy to say that I was wrong.

For starters, the film is as I can tell 1.85:1 despite being labeled as 1.78:1. I have only listened to the mono DTS HD Master Audio track as a purist, and came into this thinking only the plethora of modern audio options would be the main difference. I can happily state that I was incorrect.

This 4K release has proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt that grain that makes up the image is more than I could have imagined. Are you getting that "4K visual experience"? No. You are getting what appears to be a super high quality clone of 16mm with a digital display. For the nerds out there, there's simply nothing I can't zoom in on and take a photo of that isn't a massive improvement over the downscaled 1080p Blu-Ray release.

Is this a must buy? For Texas Chainsaw massacre fans, absoFreakinLutely. This has single handedly proven that 4K is needed to accurately represent the grain(or detail) of 16mm. I do not believe an 8k transfer will ever be needed unless there's some new audio codec that grabs everyone's attention. It's hard to improve upon the original unless you want more channels with a remix.

In conclusion, if you're a big fan of TCM this is the ONLY copy to own. If you're just a moderate fan the 40th anniversary BD will do. When I say you can zoom in and see a massive improvement over the BD release, don't you also believe that the complete image your eye is seeing is also improved? That's up to you, but at least you know. This truly feels like I just received an uncirculated copy of tcm on 16mm, which apparently 1080p couldn't pull off. I thought the 1080p 4K was definitive, but I suppose there was room for improvement. I'm actually eating crow on this one because despite resolution, I did ignore the quality itself of the scanned grain because I already thought 1080p transfers were overkill. This has given me a new appreciation for 35mm on 8K when it becomes standard. There may not be a huge difference, but there wil be a difference.

Definitely double dip & buy this if you're a fan, or if you like the film but don't own it yet this is the way to go. Any fan that hasn't seen this release & also owns a 4K display is missing out. The film is not riddled with post processing to increase marketability.

You know how you can compare good vs bad upscaling? Id say that's about the noticeable difference here. This isn't upscaled though, all original.

I applaud Turbine for this release, and I'm very disappointed in Dark Sky for not releasing this American classic in....America. I've done the A/B tests, the difference is there.


Texas Chain Saw Massacre, finally available in the best quality possible considering the sources. It may not "Wow" everyone, but you're getting the best

I do hope that this release becomes more aware to those in the classic horror community as Turbine has taken a film with with an original 60k budget that was expanded to 130k, and unexpectedly grossed 30 Million. Dark Sky may live in the past, but Turbine has proven that 16mm matters.

If you love TCM, don't sell yourself short. Please support this awesome endeavor.

[BozQ]

Hmm. But it isn't clear if the Dolby Atmos and/or Auro 3D soundtracks will only be on the UHD BD or BD or both.

[ray0414]

turbine media has commented on the facebook page saying that it does NOT have HDR.

[MattPerdue]

Originally Posted by ray0414

turbine media has commented on the facebook page saying that it does NOT have HDR.

I'll believe it when I see it but if so this could be a really great release. Even more so if it has the original audio like the 40th anniversary BD had.

[Pieter V]

Specifications of UHD 4K Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 mono // music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
picture format: 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels) - 4-fold resolution of Full HD
subtitle: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German


Technical specifications of Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 Mono // Music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
image format 1080p24 Full HD (1.78: 1) - Digitally remastered in 4K
subtitles: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German

Amenities bonus Blu-ray:

- Documentaries and Interviews "The Chainsaw Business", "From grandfather sewing box", "The chainsaw cut", "The sacred soil of Horrors"
- documentaries "TCM - A Family Portrait", "The Shocking Truth", "Flesh Wounds" and "Off the Hook"
- A tour of the TCM-house with Gunnar Hansen
- Deleted scenes and outtakes
- "the Shocking Truth" -Outtakes
- 40th Anniversary trailer, trailer (USA, D), US TV & Radio Spots

http://www.amazon.de/Chainsaw-Massac...0378216&sr=8-1

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

http://www.amazon.de/Chainsaw-Massac...0378216&sr=8-1

Whoa! Are you serious?
This should be the first ever disc with Auro 3D 13.1

[dvdmike]

Yes I am sure the mono soundtrack will sound great in 13.1