Chances that barebones releases will eventually be re-released with all extras? - Blu-ray Forum

IndyMLVC · 10-20-2016, 01:14 PM

One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

Rich1631 · 10-20-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

Next to zero. A ton of the barebones early BD releases (AVP, Man on Fire, XXX, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, King Kong, Pearl Harbor, Day After Tomorrow etc.) never got re-released with the extras from their DVD counterparts. The days of double dip special editions are over. I have basically been taking the extra discs and putting them in a paper sleeve and then placing them in the 4K box.

IndyMLVC · 10-27-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich1631

Next to zero. A ton of the barebones early BD releases (AVP, Man on Fire, XXX, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, King Kong, Pearl Harbor, Day After Tomorrow etc.) never got re-released with the extras from their DVD counterparts. The days of double dip special editions are over. I have basically been taking the extra discs and putting them in a paper sleeve and then placing them in the 4K box.

Maybe not in the U.S. but many are available overseas. And PH does have all the extras from the first disc.
It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

Rich1631 · 10-27-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Maybe not in the U.S. but many are available overseas. And OH does have all the extras from the first disc.
It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

What is OH?

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich1631

What is OH?

Sorry. Meant PH (aka Pearl Harbor).

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100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
TBH, the lack of extras and the need to save 100% of my older Blu's makes me really uninterested in jumping in. It's one thing if "some" titles on 4k didn't have all the extras, as was the case when Blu-ray and even DVD started out. In this case, NONE of them do.

Rich1631 · 10-28-2016, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Sorry. Meant PH (aka Pearl Harbor).

Yea but it doesn't have the director's cut nor any of the special features from the 4-Disc Vista Series DVD.

cinema sickness · 10-28-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

\It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

Guess it's time for "4K Deluxe" releases.

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cinema sickness

Guess it's time for "4K Deluxe" releases.

That might be believable...if the 4k barebones releases were selling well enough to warrant that possibility. And I seriously doubt they are.

pottyaboutpotter1 · 01-27-2018, 07:24 PM

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That might be believable...if the 4k barebones releases were selling well enough to warrant that possibility. And I seriously doubt they are.

Aren't all the studios reporting sales of 4K UHD discs are much higher than expected?

bailey1987 · 10-20-2016, 03:52 PM

How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

Rich1631 · 10-20-2016, 04:44 PM

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How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

There is no extended cut on the 4K, however the 4K package does include all of those scenes in a separate section on the bluray under the deleted/extended/alternate scenes. So you technically don't lose them as they ported them over.

willbfree · 10-27-2016, 04:34 PM

100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

Buckster666 · 10-27-2016, 06:35 PM

Defo, Hollywood love to sell you the same product over and over again.

IndyMLVC · 01-27-2018, 06:12 PM

I see the Lionsgate is the only studio that's bothering to do this. If they can, why can't others?

Rizor · 01-28-2018, 05:45 PM

Seems doubtful. Most studios seem to think 4K discs work in concert with standard Blu-ray discs rather than alone. Most 4K discs (aside from Lionsgate?) are movie-only with extras on the BD copy.

tyrok · 01-29-2018, 05:29 PM

They really have no need to since doing so will lead to even more people selling off the included BD.

Geoff D · 01-29-2018, 06:54 PM

As long as they're still packing in the Blu-ray then putting extras on the 4K disc won't be a priority. That Lionsgate do it with regularity is based on two things: 1) their wholesale embrace of 100GB discs while Fox haven't yet delivered a single TL title IIRC, and B) Lionsgate aren't making a disc that's designed to serve a vast number of territories so they don't have to swamp it with 16 different language tracks which gobble up space, e.g. Warners.

They distribute their own gear in the US and the UK and that's about it, almost every other country/territory has a local distributor for Lionsgate product. That's why you'll rarely find anything other than additional French and Spanish language options on their discs, reflecting the modern-day North American language set.

10-20-2016, 01:14 PM	#1
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	Chances that barebones releases will eventually be re-released with all extras? One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

10-20-2016, 03:52 PM	#10
bailey1987 Special Member Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:204	How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

10-27-2016, 04:34 PM	#12
willbfree Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2008 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:468 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

10-27-2016, 06:35 PM	#13
Buckster666 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:107 Trading Score:14	Defo, Hollywood love to sell you the same product over and over again.

01-27-2018, 06:12 PM	#14
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	I see the Lionsgate is the only studio that's bothering to do this. If they can, why can't others?

01-28-2018, 05:45 PM	#15
Rizor Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:NJ, USA 4K collection:1602 Blu-ray collection:6185 DVD collection:192 MA collection:73 Digital collection:51 iTunes collection:29 Prime collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 32 Trading Score:159	Seems doubtful. Most studios seem to think 4K discs work in concert with standard Blu-ray discs rather than alone. Most 4K discs (aside from Lionsgate?) are movie-only with extras on the BD copy.

01-29-2018, 05:29 PM	#16
tyrok Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:1750 Blu-ray collection:1750	They really have no need to since doing so will lead to even more people selling off the included BD.

01-29-2018, 06:54 PM	#17
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	As long as they're still packing in the Blu-ray then putting extras on the 4K disc won't be a priority. That Lionsgate do it with regularity is based on two things: 1) their wholesale embrace of 100GB discs while Fox haven't yet delivered a single TL title IIRC, and B) Lionsgate aren't making a disc that's designed to serve a vast number of territories so they don't have to swamp it with 16 different language tracks which gobble up space, e.g. Warners. They distribute their own gear in the US and the UK and that's about it, almost every other country/territory has a local distributor for Lionsgate product. That's why you'll rarely find anything other than additional French and Spanish language options on their discs, reflecting the modern-day North American language set.

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