Detroit (2017) 4K UHD

[McCrutchy]

Coming from Concorde Video in Germany on 5 April 2018:

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B079JPHK84

[Pieter V]

[Charlie_C]

[Geoff D]

Hmmm. They shot this movie on Alexa Minis in 'Super 16' mode (1600x900 sensor crop upscaled to 1080p in-camera) with lenses designed for 16mm cameras and added grain in post to dirty it up. 2K finish.

If the German UHD doesn't have HDR - and I don't think it will - then this will be an interesting test of what an upscale can do for a straight 2K SDR 709 source.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmm. They shot this movie on Alexa Minis in 'Super 16' mode (1600x900 sensor crop upscaled to 1080p in-camera) with lenses designed for 16mm cameras and added grain in post to dirty it up. 2K finish.

If the German UHD doesn't have HDR - and I don't think it will - then this will be an interesting test of what an upscale can do for a straight 2K SDR 709 source.

Supposedly, it will have HDR.

[sukraj]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Supposedly, it will have HDR.

hope so bruv

[d514]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

But will the Blu-ray be region free, I wonder?

Concorde Blu-rays are usually Code B only.

[Zoland2020]

Originally Posted by d514

Concorde Blu-rays are usually Code B only.

So I will most likely need a region-free or Region B player to play discs like this, am I right?

[Geoff D]

A local release mit HDR? That's a first.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

A local release mit HDR? That's a first.

Bluray-disc.de is claiming as such, and as a 2017 film, Detroit has doubtless had an HDR pass done. Normally, I would be suspicious, but Concorde are also claiming their release of the 2017 Russian film Salyut-7 will have HDR, and they have released numerous discs which have been released with HDR in the USA, so I assume they are familiar with it by now. I expect the likes of Howards End will be SDR, but for new films, I have to assume that HDR is not only possible, but likely.

Also, this is technically far from the first local release with HDR, as almost all of the recent local Japanese UHD BDs claim to have HDR, too. So really, I don't think it's that surprising, coming as this is from Germany.

EDIT: I think the Iron Man trilogy also all have HDR, so perhaps all Concorde discs will, and perhaps they are doing them in-house. Perhaps someone fluent in German could ask them?

[Zoland2020]

Interesting that this movie is getting 4K in Germany but not here in the States. If I hear the 4K release of Detroit is good, I'll get it from there instead of buying the regular Blu-ray here in the States.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by Zoland2020

Interesting that this movie is getting 4K in Germany but not here in the States. If I hear the 4K release of Detroit is good, I'll get it from there instead of buying the regular Blu-ray here in the States.

Tbh I wouldn't get my hopes up with this release. I'm importing most of my movies for a reason and Concorde is one of the reasons I'm doing so. Seriously, their releases are among the worst in Germany imo. Concorde is standing on my "avoid if possible"-list due to stuff like localized masters and subpar encoding.

Concorde is the same company that released the "Iron Man Trilogy" on UHD, which, while not having seen it for myself, but going by people I trust with these things, is supposed to be UHD-crap.

With this being natively 1080p, like Geoff pointed out, I'm a happy camper with the US BD.

[McCrutchy]

The official link for the release is here:

http://www.concorde-movie-lounge.de/...d133ac610c7a2c

It looks like the disc should have German and English DTS-HD MA 5.1 tracks, plus a German: Dolby Digital 2.0 track and optional German and German SDH subtitles. It should also contain the same exact extras as the Fox Blu-ray, plus the German trailer.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

The official link for the release is here:

http://www.concorde-movie-lounge.de/...d133ac610c7a2c

It looks like the disc should have German and English DTS-HD MA 5.1 tracks, plus a German: Dolby Digital 2.0 track and optional German and German SDH subtitles. It should also contain the same exact extras as the Fox Blu-ray, plus the German trailer.

But will the Blu-ray be region free, I wonder?

[trevrox]

Anyone import this? How is it? Bluray is cheap at $14 right now... worth importing the 4K?

[McCrutchy]

Looks like the extras are included on the UHD disc:

[Pieter V]

DISC INFO:

Disc Size: 89,710,888,281 bytes
Protection: AACS2
BD-Java: No
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.5.8.7

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00002.MPLS
Length: 2:24:12.602 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 84,261,574,656 bytes
Total Bitrate: 77.91 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 69999 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR / BT.2020 /

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio German 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps
DTS-HD Master Audio German 1933 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1933 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1903 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1903 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics German 33.641 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 30.687 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 1.898 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 1.151 kbps

[birdztudio]

love to check this one on UHD but not so sure with Concorde releases, that Iron Man trilogy didn't look so good, or this would would be exception?

[hal56]

Watched this yesterday. I´d say its a subtle upgrade over the bluray.
Banding from blu-ray is gone and the overall picture is a bit darker, more filmlike.
Due to increased resolution the grain is more visible, however, the overall image is
tighter and imo more authentic to the source.
HDR doesn´t make much difference. dark and bright highlights are better delineated.
The biggest differences are in the few daylight scenes where the picture features better color saturation.
Didn´t check the included blu ray for region coding.
However, all the extras are on the UHD
All in all I´d say it´s a subtle upgrade and worth buying.
Hope this helps.

[andreasy969]

I didn't watch the movie/BD yet ... Are there any localized titles with the Concorde release? Concorde usually does so.