Why no IMAX aspect ratio on Blu-Ray?

[Jonnyxll]

Hey Guys,

there are many movies which have a IMAX release with the IMAX aspect ratio.
But i don´t understand why we get often not this ratio on the Blu-Ray?!

There enough examples of movies, where we are lost 26% of the Picture at the Blu-Ray:
Avengers:Infinity War (the sadest decision of all movies)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Salazars Revange
Beauty and the Beast (Live-Action)
Only the Brave
Blade Runner 2049
Maze Runner: The death Cure
Oblivion
...

WHY? Maybe because of an contract with IMAX?
Who descides which version of the movie will press at the Blu-Ray?


I hate the big black bars on my screen.
But i hate it much more, if i know it exist a version without this bars :-(

[steve_dave]

Its up to the filmmakers and/or the studio/distributor.

[shinobipopcorn]

Probably the same reason some distributors crop 1.33 TV shows to 16:9 for blu-ray...

[captveg]

We know that when it comes to Warner Bros titles it's whatever the director prefers. For example, Nolan (multiple titles), yes.

[cheez avenger]

Deakins' preferred version for BR 2049 is in 2D and in its OAR.

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/film-ta...-or-3d/page-1/

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Deakins' preferred version for BR 2049 is in 2D and in its OAR.

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/film-ta...-or-3d/page-1/

Is it so wrong that even knowing that, I feel like it's almost an obligation that any future special release of that movie should include a disc with the IMAX ratio version (with a message stating Deakins' intentions)? Along with a CD or other presentation of Johann Johannsson's unused music, and a nice thick booklet, and, and…

[AFFanAttic]

I think there's a belief among studios (and it may very well be supported) that the general public doesn't like the shifting aspect ratios during home viewing. This might be why digital distributors (I only know of iTunes from personal experience) no longer present stuff like Christopher Nolan's movies this way when the disc releases do. -- The Dark Knight on iTunes used to, and then it was removed. I almost bought Dunkirk digitally until I found out they didn't include the IMAX ratio.

I think it's fine. I'd love to see the option available a lot more often. My prediction / wishful thinking is that studios will try and sell the public a little more on this feature for home viewing in the future, and use it as a draw for people to repurchase some titles.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

I think there's a belief among studios (and it may very well be supported) that the general public doesn't like the shifting aspect ratios during home viewing.

Isnt avengers infinity all imax -- yet the blu isnt.
So doesnt explain that situation.

This is why all movies should be 1.85 anyways.

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

I think there's a belief among studios (and it may very well be supported) that the general public doesn't like the shifting aspect ratios during home viewing. This might be why digital distributors (I only know of iTunes from personal experience) no longer present stuff like Christopher Nolan's movies this way when the disc releases do. -- The Dark Knight on iTunes used to, and then it was removed. I almost bought Dunkirk digitally until I found out they didn't include the IMAX ratio.

I think it's fine. I'd love to see the option available a lot more often. My prediction / wishful thinking is that studios will try and sell the public a little more on this feature for home viewing in the future, and use it as a draw for people to repurchase some titles.

Or that the general public doesn't like all that wasted space on their TV- black bars at the sides or the top. Hence idiotic cropped television shows.

[professorwho]

The DP has the final word, but I feel there should at least be the option for the IMAX versions of these films. That way people can experiment and choose whatever version they prefer.

[NDcowboy]

I also wish there was a trend to get more available information on the screen. Open that shit up I want to see everything! Director approved aspect ratio be damned! Even if it is on a separate disc or separate release. Especially considering everyone owns huge high rez TV's now.

[Agent Kay]

Imax is event destination cinema, if you can get it anywhere then why bother going?

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Imax is event destination cinema, if you can get it anywhere then why bother going?

Meh. Not everyone actually has a vague chance of doing that. I'm in an Australian state capital, but I'd need to fly to another state to see anything in imax. Technically I could make the effort, but no amount of money under a million dollars would make me even consider wasting my time and effort to do that. Let alone pay for it myself. I'm never going to reach the end of my life thinking I wish I had more money. Time? Yes...

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Meh. Not everyone actually has a vague chance of doing that. I'm in an Australian state capital, but I'd need to fly to another state to see anything in imax. Technically I could make the effort, but no amount of money under a million dollars would make me even consider wasting my time and effort to do that. Let alone pay for it myself. I'm never going to reach the end of my life thinking I wish I had more money. Time? Yes...

I am doing an 800 mile round trip on the 2nd for fallout to my nearest imax.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Imax is event destination cinema, if you can get it anywhere then why bother going?

No one has 50-100 foot screens at home, so obviously you can't "get it anywhere."

But it would be nice for the IMAX scenes to open up to give the more immersive feeling of a larger image, which is the whole point.

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

No one has 50-100 foot screens at home, so obviously you can't "get it anywhere."

But it would be nice for the IMAX scenes to open up to give the more immersive feeling of a larger image, which is the whole point.

Except for the fact that doing so means you get a physically smaller image on over 90% of modern home viewing systems.

Neither option is perfect because of current setups for most people.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Imax is event destination cinema, if you can get it anywhere then why bother going?

??????
what in the world does seeing a close to old school aspect ratio have to do with people not bothering going to an IMAX theater? 70'-100' screen is a slight difference compared to most homes

and I mean come on, nobody bothered to go to IMAX theaters for all those decades when every single TV set was in near IMAX ratio and people watched close to that ratio all day long????

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Because a lot of these IMAX films were composed with the standard release ratio in mind but were simply protected for IMAX showings.

On an IMAX screen, the human eye essentially does its own matting. On a smaller screen, you focus on more information than you would in an IMAX theater, this is where compositions may look compromised because of too much information being shown.

[steve_dave]

I don’t think most people realize the actual IMAX ratio is 1.90:1 which would still have black bars on 16:9 displays. IMAX just allows the framing to be altered to 1.78 so the shifting aspect ratio goes from widescreen to “filling a display” like in theaters.

After seeing Transformers: The Last Knight, I’m more of an advocate for fixed aspect ratios. Sure, if the movie was filmed with IMAX cameras and not just composed for the 1.90 frame, then I might be persuaded to support shifting ratios. But many of these “opened” or “26% more picture” presentations are marketing gimmicks. Beauty and the Beast 2017 rarely takes advantage of the 1.90 frame. The only films I’ve seen where that expanded frame really helps are the Guardians of the Galaxy films. I honestly don’t miss it in any other Marvel film.

[mredman]

i hate this too. latest victim Inifinity War. ugh!