Apocalypse Now 4k (UK) - Blu-ray Forum

stigdu · 09-15-2019, 04:22 PM

I see this is coming out in a couple of weeks.

Amazon are listing two versions, one at £20 and one at £30 as a 'collector's edition' but I can't tell from the product description what the differences are. Both appear to have 3 different cuts of the film (Theatrical, redux, final cut).

Does anyone here know the difference? I dislike tat and wider boxes, *but* would plump for the more expensive one if their description is wrong and you only get the three versions with the collector's edition.

Thanks.

agent999 · 09-15-2019, 04:32 PM

It's an odd one, the listings say the standard edition has all three cuts but hmv says it's 3 discs. Unless they've re-done the UHD to branch all three versions on one disc, I don't see how that can be as it contains the extras disc and a blu ray. So still confused. I've ordered the limited one which is on the way, but if the standard has the theatrical cut and is in a proper case (not crappy cardboard) I'll be annoyed as that's all I want.

Sky_Captain · 09-15-2019, 04:57 PM

I suspect the three disc version will purely be dedicated to The Final Cut on UHD/BD, with Hearts of Darkness on the third disc.

wildphantom · 09-15-2019, 10:48 PM

The one out tomorrow is the collectors edition with all three cuts. It’s expected the one out on the 30th contains just the new cut.

cash_black · 09-16-2019, 09:34 AM

Yeah australasia has the 3 disc version too

stigdu · 09-16-2019, 07:15 PM

So... I was in my local Sainsbury's earlier this evening, and they have it on the shelf. It's labelled as the Final cut and is a 4-disc set.

Disc 1 is final cut
Disc 2 is redux and Theatrical
Disc 3 is extras
Disc 4 is Hearts of Darkness documentary.

And it looks to be in a nice, normal case without loads of tat.

Winner!

johnpaul2 · 09-17-2019, 07:37 AM

So it's basically the 6-discs version minus the 2 BDs with the 3 cuts ?

gooseygander2001 · 09-17-2019, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stigdu

So... I was in my local Sainsbury's earlier this evening, and they have it on the shelf. It's labelled as the Final cut and is a 4-disc set.

Disc 1 is final cut
Disc 2 is redux and Theatrical
Disc 3 is extras
Disc 4 is Hearts of Darkness documentary.

And it looks to be in a nice, normal case without loads of tat.

Winner!

If it's anything like my local Sainsbury's this is the blu ray set only, not smaller 4k set which comes out on 30 September.

stigdu · 09-21-2019, 10:37 AM

I'm really confused about this. I went on Amazona to buy this bit I can only find a version for £49.99 (!)

I thought there were only 2 versions, at 19 99 and 29.99?

rezpekt · 09-21-2019, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stigdu

I'm really confused about this. I went on Amazona to buy this bit I can only find a version for £49.99 (!)

I thought there were only 2 versions, at 19 99 and 29.99?

It's pretty obvious what's happening. Collector's Edition is sold out and being sold for big profits by third-party sellers. Regular edition is widely available.

barrett75 · 09-22-2019, 12:40 PM

has UK set the exact same encoding than US one re: UHD discs?

Geoff D · 09-22-2019, 01:13 PM

The movie BDs and UHDs are the exact same discs, disc art aside.

barrett75 · 09-22-2019, 05:13 PM

thanks Geoff. DVDbeaver reported different video bitrate between FC UHD Disc and TC/RC UHD disc, about 50mbps the first vs 40mbps the latter. are there significant differences in terms of video quality between the two discs (e.g. macroblocking or whatever)?

Geoff D · 09-23-2019, 12:35 AM

No, the two UHD encodes are equally delicious.

Antiochus · 09-30-2019, 02:11 PM

Has anyone actually bought/seen in person the new 3-disc edition that came out today? Would really like to know what discs are included before ordering it.

agent999 · 10-04-2019, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antiochus

Has anyone actually bought/seen in person the new 3-disc edition that came out today? Would really like to know what discs are included before ordering it.

I looked at it in HMV today. UHD disc says it's Final Cut, then a BD of the film and a third disc with Hearts of Darkness + extras. So glad I got the 6 disc edition, I would have hated not to have the theatrical on UHD.

Antiochus · 10-04-2019, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent999

I looked at it in HMV today. UHD disc says it's Final Cut, then a BD of the film and a third disc with Hearts of Darkness + extras. So glad I got the 6 disc edition, I would have hated not to have the theatrical on UHD.

Thanks, will buy the US set then.

kristoffer · 10-05-2019, 05:31 PM

Good point! Thanks
for sharing.

kristoffer · 10-05-2019, 08:21 PM

I just ordered the US version.

Fjodor2000 · 10-19-2019, 09:07 PM

So just to have this clarified, do these UK editions exist? :

A) Collector's edition. 6-discs containing:
1. 4K Final Cut
2. 4K Theatrical + Redux
3. Blu-ray Final Cut
4. Blu-ray Theatrical + Redux
5. Blu-ray Extras / Special Features
6. Blu-ray Heart of darkness

B) 3 disc edition, containing 1, 5, 6 from A).

C) 4 disc edition, containing 1, 2, 5, 6 from A).

Is this correct? Or does the C) edition not exist?

09-15-2019, 04:22 PM	#1
stigdu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Surrey, UK 4K collection:790 Blu-ray collection:1312 DVD collection:260 Trading Score:5	Apocalypse Now 4k (UK) I see this is coming out in a couple of weeks. Amazon are listing two versions, one at £20 and one at £30 as a 'collector's edition' but I can't tell from the product description what the differences are. Both appear to have 3 different cuts of the film (Theatrical, redux, final cut). Does anyone here know the difference? I dislike tat and wider boxes, but would plump for the more expensive one if their description is wrong and you only get the three versions with the collector's edition. Thanks. Last edited by BigNickUK; 02-21-2020 at 03:54 PM.

09-15-2019, 04:32 PM	#2
agent999 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:UK	It's an odd one, the listings say the standard edition has all three cuts but hmv says it's 3 discs. Unless they've re-done the UHD to branch all three versions on one disc, I don't see how that can be as it contains the extras disc and a blu ray. So still confused. I've ordered the limited one which is on the way, but if the standard has the theatrical cut and is in a proper case (not crappy cardboard) I'll be annoyed as that's all I want. Last edited by agent999; 09-15-2019 at 04:55 PM.

09-15-2019, 04:57 PM	#3
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	I suspect the three disc version will purely be dedicated to The Final Cut on UHD/BD, with Hearts of Darkness on the third disc. Last edited by Sky_Captain; 09-15-2019 at 05:01 PM.

09-15-2019, 10:48 PM	#4
wildphantom Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 4K collection:56 Blu-ray collection:644 DVD collection:3 iTunes collection:991 Trading Score:47	The one out tomorrow is the collectors edition with all three cuts. It’s expected the one out on the 30th contains just the new cut.

09-16-2019, 09:34 AM	#5
cash_black Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2012 4K collection:196 Blu-ray collection:855 DVD collection:24 Blu-ray reviews: 101 Trading Score:49	Yeah australasia has the 3 disc version too

09-16-2019, 07:15 PM	#6
stigdu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Surrey, UK 4K collection:790 Blu-ray collection:1312 DVD collection:260 Trading Score:5	So... I was in my local Sainsbury's earlier this evening, and they have it on the shelf. It's labelled as the Final cut and is a 4-disc set. Disc 1 is final cut Disc 2 is redux and Theatrical Disc 3 is extras Disc 4 is Hearts of Darkness documentary. And it looks to be in a nice, normal case without loads of tat. Winner!

09-17-2019, 07:37 AM	#7
johnpaul2 Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2018	So it's basically the 6-discs version minus the 2 BDs with the 3 cuts ?

09-21-2019, 10:37 AM	#9
stigdu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Surrey, UK 4K collection:790 Blu-ray collection:1312 DVD collection:260 Trading Score:5	I'm really confused about this. I went on Amazona to buy this bit I can only find a version for £49.99 (!) I thought there were only 2 versions, at 19 99 and 29.99?

09-22-2019, 12:40 PM	#11
barrett75 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	has UK set the exact same encoding than US one re: UHD discs?

09-22-2019, 01:13 PM	#12
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	The movie BDs and UHDs are the exact same discs, disc art aside.

09-22-2019, 05:13 PM	#13
barrett75 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	thanks Geoff. DVDbeaver reported different video bitrate between FC UHD Disc and TC/RC UHD disc, about 50mbps the first vs 40mbps the latter. are there significant differences in terms of video quality between the two discs (e.g. macroblocking or whatever)?

09-23-2019, 12:35 AM	#14
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	No, the two UHD encodes are equally delicious.

09-30-2019, 02:11 PM	#15
Antiochus Active Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:307 Blu-ray collection:1191 DVD collection:3 MA collection:15 Digital collection:10 iTunes collection:6 Trading Score:14	Has anyone actually bought/seen in person the new 3-disc edition that came out today? Would really like to know what discs are included before ordering it.

10-05-2019, 05:31 PM	#18
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	Good point! Thanks for sharing.

10-05-2019, 08:21 PM	#19
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	I just ordered the US version.

10-19-2019, 09:07 PM	#20
Fjodor2000 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2019	So just to have this clarified, do these UK editions exist? : A) Collector's edition. 6-discs containing: 1. 4K Final Cut 2. 4K Theatrical + Redux 3. Blu-ray Final Cut 4. Blu-ray Theatrical + Redux 5. Blu-ray Extras / Special Features 6. Blu-ray Heart of darkness B) 3 disc edition, containing 1, 5, 6 from A). C) 4 disc edition, containing 1, 2, 5, 6 from A). Is this correct? Or does the C) edition not exist?

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