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Old 11-25-2020, 12:49 PM   #1
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Similar to my worst UHD thread what has been your least favorite upgrade or minimal upgrade on the format. So far the only UHD I thought that looked almost like a BD was Baby Driver which despite HDR helping, didn't look that much better than the Blu-Ray. Overall I have found UHD's to be at least some sort of upgrade from the BD even if it's minimal.
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Old 11-25-2020, 12:53 PM   #2
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Oblivion and The Bourne Identity seem to be the worst I've encountered.
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Oblivion and The Bourne Identity seem to be the worst I've encountered.
Yep, plus both cliffhangers, T2, USA Fifth Element.
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Yep, plus both cliffhangers, T2, USA Fifth Element.
Thoughts on SC remastered Blu. I thought it was fine but the color grading seemed off. The sound unfortunatly wasn't atmos and was a turnoff.
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Yep, plus both cliffhangers
There's more than one?
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There's more than one?
Europe and USA.
Both bad in different ways
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:40 PM   #7
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Europe and USA.
Both bad in different ways
Ah, I see now.
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T2, Oblivion, and 3:10 to Yuma would be my top three.
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The accountant.. first 4k i saw at my moms boyfriends house i was like this can't be 4k.. lol
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Since the OP asked for "least favorite upgrade," I'll be subjective and say Quantum of Solace.

I've always really liked the movie and the Blu-ray is a knockout, but the DNR on the UHD is disappointing. It's even more disappointing when you see that the non-HDR 4K master on Amazon Prime looks quite good, so I guess something went awry when preparing the HDR master.

Anyway, far from the worst disc on the market or that I've seen, but that one annoyed me the most. I would say The Phantom Menace, but I never really expected LFL to go out of their way for that one. And I'm still annoyed that Disney couldn't be bothered to give Avengers: Endgame a BD-100, but I don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of having people explain why Disney cutting corners there is OK.

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Old 11-25-2020, 01:24 PM   #11
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Since the OP asked for "least favorite upgrade," I'll be subjective and say Quantum of Solace.

I've always really liked the movie and the Blu-ray is a knockout, but the DNR on the UHD is disappointing. It's even more disappointing when you see that the non-HDR 4K master on Amazon Prime looks quite good, so I guess something went awry when preparing the HDR master.

Anyway, far from the worst disc on the market or that I've seen, but that one annoyed me the most. I would say The Phantom Menace, but I never really expected LFL to go out of their way for that one. And I'm still annoyed that Disney couldn't be bothered to give Avengers: Endgame a BD-100, but I don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of having people explain why Disney cutting corners there is OK.
Sorry to be that guy but while I'd never argue that putting a three hour movie on a UHD66 is optimal or recommended or "okay" or whatever, I'll just say that I've seen FAR worse encodes on movies half as long with twice the average bitrate. It's about how the bits are used, as well as how many are there.

I'll admit that it's dumb ****ing luck that Endgame has such a crisp 'digital' look which lends itself to such a low bitrate (see also: BoRhap), as if it was shot on film then such a low bitrate would end in disaster (Apollo 13, ID4), but it still works regardless.
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T2: Judgment Day easily

Not only is the lack of film grain from DNR disappointing (the film is sharper than previous blu-rays but not anywhere as detailed as 4K has the potential for) but the HDR is practically non-existent to my eyes.

Many older films from the 80s as far back as the 50s look incredible thanks to how well rendered film grain is and how HDR enhances the image. T2 isn’t one of them.

I still own a copy of it because to be honest, I do prefer the color on this restoration compared to the old home video master. But if I watch this version, it’s the 3D version which can kind of excuse the shortcomings of the remaster.

If I’m watching in 2D or the extended cut, I would go with the 2015 release or in my case, the Mondo steelbook from Canada.
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Goodfellas looks great in 4K but it really isn’t a huge difference over the remastered 2015 Blu-ray. Some may even say it looks worse because of how much darker it appears, but with the right calibration that can be corrected.

It’s not a flop like T2, but in terms of “upgrade” it just isn’t so noticeable compared to stuff like Starship Troopers or American Psycho or The Big Lebowski where they replaced severely outdated transfers.
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1. Bourne Identity
2. King King (2005)
3. Oblivion
4. Star Wars Phantom Menace (in parts)
5. Star Wars Empire Strikes Back (in parts)
6. T2
7. 3:10 to Yuma

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Old 11-25-2020, 01:29 PM   #15
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Aye, I've made my apologies for liking a few DNR disasters because of the HDR, but T2 doesn't even have that going for it.
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Aye, I've made my apologies for liking a few DNR disasters because of the HDR, but T2 doesn't even have that going for it.
Totally with you there. Some anime titles like Cobra and Ghost in the Shell have a fair amount of DNR applied but the HDR and WCG make up for it, and being animation, them looking a little smooth isn’t as jarring as the wax figure looking people in T2.
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Sony's Cliffhanger is an uneven beast. About 20% of the movie suffers from DNR, but the other 80% looks great.
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Sony's Cliffhanger is an uneven beast. About 20% of the movie suffers from DNR, but the other 80% looks great.
Agree but I would say 10% or 15% at the most.
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