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Old 07-20-2022, 02:21 PM   #1
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OK so lemme say off the bat that this is subjective and yes we are watching moooovies so everything is on the table when it comes to lapses in logic and essentially stupid crap happening onscreen. Having said that its fun sometimes to get cross or laugh at dumb crap in films so what are some examples of things that pass your point of no return when it comes to suspending disbelief? When something becomes so dumb it makes you wonder what the filmmakers were thinking?

OK I will go first and, again, this is subjective but for me a great example is the Gyrospheres from Jurassic World.



I have mentioned them before here and I am pretty sure nobody else is even slightly as annoyed by them as I am but holy shite they are the stupidest things ever put in a film when you think about it for even a few seconds. Its not the look of them or even the tech as they are pretty much technologically possible, it's their implementation into a movie that allows the general public to drive amongst ****ing DINOSAURS!

I mean Trevorrow must have thought folks would say "Oh that's cool". Replace the word cool with stupid and you are bang on the money.

- No tracks. OK so let me repeat that. There are NO tracks or rails for this. People queue up, get on and drive wherever the hell they like through fields of Stegosaurs, Apatosaurus and God knows what else.

- No training. Just climb into this very expensive looking piece of hardware and off you go racing sauropods.

- Mud and shit. OK, where are the wipers? Seriously how does the glass stay clean? Does it only operate on sunny days when there is no mud? Even so what about the big piles of dino dung everywhere? The jeeps from Jurassic Park are all covered in mud but this thing doesn't get so much as a bug on the glass?

- Teenagers. Teenagers are *******s. Are you telling me that the YOOF would not be deliberately trying to ram the dinosaurs (apparently the things roll away from the animals if they get too close or some nonsense. Wont stop people trying constantly) , driving at other spheres, driving through the dino shit for giggles and generally being disruptive asshats (the film even shows the kids being dicks as soon as they get in it)

- Safety. A quick google informs me that a sauropod weighs between 40 and 70 tons. Jimmy Fallon informs us that the glass can stop a 50 calibre bullet. Those two things are not the same. Every animal shown could and probably would knock the crap out of Trevorrows stupid marbles. Why don't they automatically return to the start when the alert goes out? Was there something about a failsafe mentioned, I cant remember? Wasn't it manned by like one spotty teen? Jeez, the whole idea is so dumb.

I'm sure a big fan of JW will be along to tell me I'm wrong on all points but even so, from a simple common sense perspective the Gyrosphere ride is one example for me when I just can even let it wash over me. There is so much lazy crap in the JW movies. Why create a new dino because people are bored of the old ones and then give it the ability to camouflage itself? Chris Pratts ability to stop any dinosaur in its tracks by holding up his hand etc etc but the Gyrosphere ride has so many levels of stupid contained within it in a single sequence that it crosses my (pretty hefty I think) suspension of disbelief line.

What are yours?

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Old 07-20-2022, 02:28 PM   #2
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Timothee Chalamet as a recovering drug addict. He looks like he's taken less than I've spilled.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:32 PM   #3
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Great movie but the one bit that bugs the heck out of me in Captain America Winter Soldier is when Nick Fury lasers his way through the road and makes a tunnel and escapes the Winter Soldier in literally seconds at the end of the car chase. It's just absurdly convenient.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:36 PM   #4
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Great movie but the one bit that bugs the heck out of me in Captain America Winter Soldier is when Nick Fury lasers his way through the road and makes a tunnel and escapes the Winter Soldier in literally seconds at the end of the car chase. It's just absurdly convenient.
I thought it was nice he kept his lightsabre from the prequels.

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Old 07-20-2022, 02:46 PM   #5
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Great movie but the one bit that bugs the heck out of me in Captain America Winter Soldier is when Nick Fury lasers his way through the road and makes a tunnel and escapes the Winter Soldier in literally seconds at the end of the car chase. It's just absurdly convenient.
Really though I think just that it was a little too fast, 10 secs more and I'd have accepted it better.

Generally I think thats probably the best Marvel film in terms of having a believable and consistent internal reality, maybe why that moment stands out more.
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Old 06-08-2023, 06:18 AM   #6
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Ratatouille

Okay, so the rat can read, understand humans, and sanitarily operate a 5-star restaurant. I'm good with all of that, that is the universe that they have established.

But what in the living hell is the concept of tugging on someone's hair and controlling their actions? This is never explained. Is it this person in particular who has his neurons acting this way? What makes him special regarding this? Why is he different in this way?

Even in an animated movie for kids/families with a ratpack being able to run a kitchen for humans, I just don't buy it.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:47 PM   #7
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Not a particularly unique insight but the idea in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom of tagging people with lasers and then letting dinosaurs get them is a ridiculous form of assassination. Especially as it only works if the velociraptors are close enough to see it.

If you can get that close to your target then just stab or shoot them.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:55 PM   #8
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I'm not sure I can speak about times when I can't suspend disbelief. I freaking love a movie where Dolly Parton plays an on-air radio psychologist. And I don't doubt it for one second. So, I guess I believe just about everything in movies. The only thing I don't get behind is when people are on screen doing stupid crap while their lives are in mortal danger. I guess you could call that suspending disbelief, I suppose.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:58 PM   #9
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Not a particularly unique insight but the idea in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom of tagging people with lasers and then letting dinosaurs get them is a ridiculous form of assassination. Especially as it only works if the velociraptors are close enough to see it.

If you can get that close to your target then just stab or shoot them.
Boy, you're going to love Jurassic World Dominion.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:32 PM   #10
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Boy, you're going to love Jurassic World Dominion.
Yeah it's a stoopid thing. Even more so when these souped up killing machines fail to actually kill anyone including a young child.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:49 PM   #11
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Boy, you're going to love Jurassic World Dominion.
Seen it and largely enjoyed it, but the laser tag bit remains stooopid!

And they nicked the punchline from Valerian.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:35 PM   #12
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I never bought that Padme would fall for that annoying weirdo.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:39 PM   #13
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Why? Plenty of women have fallen in love with weirdos. And even married them. And men have too.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:45 PM   #14
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without naming specific movies --- not necessary with these examples--

action scenes where someone drives a car through a building during a chase

action scenes where somebody jumps from a tall building to the next one

action scenes where someone leaps and holds onto a moving airplane

doesn't matter how good the movie is, these cliches always ruin the moment for me...
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Old 07-20-2022, 11:18 PM   #15
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I never bought that Padme would fall for that annoying weirdo.
Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:46 PM   #16
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“Somehow Palpatine returned” - Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Also anything to do with the Sith dagger in that movie
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:52 PM   #17
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Off the top of my head, the Big John/Little John stuff in Halloween Kills. "I've got a big knife." "I've got a little knife." The characters were fine, but that stuff just pulled me out of it.
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F9 Cars in space. I did laugh though.

Many people called it though.
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F9 Cars in space. I did laugh though.

Many people called it though.
I was pining for it for years. I guess sometimes those ideas are better left to the imagination.
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Old 07-20-2022, 05:02 PM   #20
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I'm sure there's many I've forgotten right now.

Probably the least annoying, but in The Dark Knight Rises and how Bruce Wayne
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