Late Night with the Devil (Umbrella)

[Ruined]

SOOOO now I have received my Umbrella CE, which I was going to sell, but I am instead thinking of returning/selling the Second Sight CE without even watching it.

AND HERE is why, let me know your thoughts on this.

First of all according to Umbrella, the directors wanted the film on Blu-ray as their format of choice, instead of 4K UHD; this also explains why this was released in Blu-ray in most places instead of 4K UHD. Umbrella could have put this on 4K UHD as they had been doing them for a while, but chose not to. Second, giving some weight to this, the streaming services like Vudu/Fandango aren't carrying a Dolby Vision grade, meaning the Second Sight HDR grade may be a home video label grade rather than a studio grade - and given the mixed mediums of the film, 1080p may offer more detail consistency than 4K does. Third, the Umbrella version *does* contain the Night Owls broadcast cut as a special feature on the disc (not just a VHS); this doesn't appear to be mentioned in Second Sights extras details.

I don't want two versions like this, its starting to sound like the Umbrella is likely the better release. And that doesn't even mention the artwork which Umbrella CE clearly wins.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

So you prefer scenes with more detail to be downgraded to the least common denominator


I guess I can watch movies with 16mm inserts on PAL DVD now.

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Well, it does make sense. Similar to films the filmmakers decide to finish in 2K for consistency because the SFX are in 2K even if the live action is filmed in 4K.

Anyway, Umbrella made the statement that the filmmakers preferred it on Blu-ray, not me - that would be a sensible reason why, and also would explain why there is no Dolby Vision grade in streaming I can find in the sites I use like Fandango which usually includes DV when provided by the studio. There is no technical reason holding back a 4K UHD as Umbrella has no problem releasing 4K UHD either HDR/SDR as they have released plenty of them for less popular films.

[kmhofmann]

Originally Posted by Ruined

First of all according to Umbrella, the directors wanted the film on Blu-ray as their format of choice, instead of 4K UHD

Where? Can you provide a clear reference?

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by kmhofmann

Where? Can you provide a clear reference?

It's in the press release for the Umbrella version

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...editon-blu-ray

Calling all Night Owls! The world-first release of Late Night With the Devil is here in collaboration with directors Cameron and Colin Cairnes and released on Blu-ray as their preferred format.

Also worth noting the physical and digital extras of the Umbrella release seem to imply a closer collaboration with the filmmakers for the release than the ones on the Second Sight, given the extra cut of the film and the book differences. Makes some sense given Aussie film.

Looking at streaming versions for services I have access to I don't see Dolby Vision offered when a 4K version is offered, and some streaming services I have access to only offer it in 1080p HD. Along with most physical releases being 1080p. Maybe they just preferred 1080p so there wasn't a huge resolution difference between segments.

[kmhofmann]

Originally Posted by Ruined

It's in the press release for the Umbrella version

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...editon-blu-ray

That is typical press release speak doesn't really say anything. Preferred format, as opposed to what? That is not being clarified, and it certainly doesn't have to mean "preferred format over all others, including 4K UHD".

My guess is that the directors prefer a/any physical release over digital streaming. Who knows whether they even considered Blu-ray vs. 4K UHD.

I would refrain from interpreting anything more into this statement.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Ruined

- and given the mixed mediums of the film, 1080p may offer more detail consistency than 4K does.

So you prefer scenes with more detail to be downgraded to the least common denominator


I guess I can watch movies with 16mm inserts on PAL DVD now.

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