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Old 03-03-2008, 03:34 PM   #1
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:38 PM   #2
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"If you watch standard DVDs on our players, the images are of very high quality because they include an "upconverting" feature. And we're going to improve this even more, so that consumers won't be able to tell the difference from HD DVD images. The players would be much cheaper than Blu-ray players too. Next-generation DVD players are in a much weaker position than when standard DVD players were first introduced."

what a jackass. talk about sore loser.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:40 PM   #3
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yeah... he is a few chop sticks short of a sushi dinner
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:43 PM   #4
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"and SED is just around the corner"

what a piss poor 3rd rate company Toshiba has become
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:45 PM   #5
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"If you watch standard DVDs on our players, the images are of very high quality because they include an "upconverting" feature. And we're going to improve this even more, so that consumers won't be able to tell the difference from HD DVD images"

Haha, so what was the point of getting thousands of people to buy your now paper weight if they could get "The same" images on a standard dvd player...UPCONVERT PQ FTW!
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:46 PM   #6
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Sounds like someone spilled his sippy-cup.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:42 PM   #7
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"If you watch standard DVDs on our players, the images are of very high quality because they include an "upconverting" feature. And we're going to improve this even more, so that consumers won't be able to tell the difference from HD DVD images. The players would be much cheaper than Blu-ray players too. Next-generation DVD players are in a much weaker position than when standard DVD players were first introduced."

what a jackass. talk about sore loser.
I wonder if he would have said that had he won the format war...
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:47 PM   #8
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^ You can never compare upscaled movies to the real deal Blu Ray.
I agree, what a sore loser.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:54 PM   #9
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There are some darker scenes near the beginning of the latest HP OOTP SD DVD, that were encoded so badly, that no upconverter now or in the future, could ever make it look reasonably good, let alone in the same league as high-def. Looks like someone took the original and compressed to 50% it's that bad.

High-def is the future, not the pi$$ poor immitation of high-def.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:01 PM   #10
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I didn't think the interview was that bad. What's he supposed to say? We have no future, we're getting out of CE completely, may I borrow your katana to fall on?

This guy helped us out in that he exited immediately once they couldn't win. He could have gone for a salt the earth strategy that could have doomed us all.

In some ways, we should thank him for quickly stepping out of the way of Blu-ray.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:14 PM   #11
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Toshiba thought that 30 GB was plenty and look what happened. We'll see how far these upconverting players take them this time....ha!
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:36 PM   #12
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"and SED is just around the corner"

I hope so! That's something that would benefit the HD consumer tremendously.

Blu-ray Discs would look oh-so-nice on a state-of-the-art 1080p SED display...
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:04 PM   #13
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"and SED is just around the corner"

I hope so! That's something that would benefit the HD consumer tremendously.

Blu-ray Discs would look oh-so-nice on a state-of-the-art 1080p SED display...
SED has been shelved by Toshiba and given back to Canon the last I heard due to legality (patent) issues. However, a GREAT alternative, IMO is the LaserTV...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23268



http://www.i4u.com/article14083.html

http://www.uberreview.com/2008/02/65...mitsubishi.htm

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Old 03-03-2008, 07:51 PM   #14
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^ You can never compare upscaled movies to the real deal Blu Ray.
I agree, what a sore loser.
i agree, but a lot of people think if they buy a upconvert player they are seeing hi-def.i wish the ce's would stop making these players.
seems like tosh is trying to undermine blu-ray
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:48 PM   #15
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what a moron blu-ray vs upconvert what is this guy smoking
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:51 PM   #16
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"If you watch standard DVDs on our players, the images are of very high quality because they include an "upconverting" feature. And we're going to improve this even more, so that consumers won't be able to tell the difference from HD DVD images. The players would be much cheaper than Blu-ray players too. Next-generation DVD players are in a much weaker position than when standard DVD players were first introduced."

what a jackass. talk about sore loser.
He's essentially saying to HD-DVD supporters: "Suckers! We had SD-DVD players that would show movies in the same quality as your HD-DVD movies." Of course, he's wrong, since upconverting/upscaling is NOT the same as HDM, but I agree, what a tool for saying that.

But, he's just spouting the same FUD that red ants spout. This is just now coming from the top.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:37 PM   #17
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what a jackass. talk about sore loser.
So, It is official now, that HD DVD is look and sound of upconverted DVD.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:53 PM   #18
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So, It is official now, that HD DVD is look and sound of upconverted DVD.
Sounds good enough to me!

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Old 03-03-2008, 08:12 PM   #19
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Max,

I'm in the market for a new TV in the next 6 months. Should I wait for OLED or proceed? In other words, how long before I can get a 50"+ OLED under $3k?
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:16 PM   #20
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Max,

I'm in the market for a new TV in the next 6 months. Should I wait for OLED or proceed? In other words, how long before I can get a 50"+ OLED under $3k?
11' OLEDs just streeted in the US a few months back. I would not expect a 50" model to street for another couple of years, at least not for a resonable price tag.
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