HDMI vs. Optical Out

[minchtree]

I currently don't have a receiver that has a HDMI input, and I'm in the market for a blu-ray player. What audio will I be able to play using the optical out instead of the HDMI?

[theknub]

the best you can do is high bitrate DD or DTS

640kbps i believe

[JTK]

Originally Posted by theknub

the best you can do is high bitrate DD or DTS

640kbps i believe

^^ Which are still a nice enough audio upgrade over "normal" DTS and DD.

[theknub]

agreed there... of course, it still isn't good enough after what i hear from you uncompressed people

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by JTK

^^ Which are still a nice enough audio upgrade over "normal" DTS and DD.

Actually, full bitrate DTS is 1536Kbps and it rocks. Some of the early Dreamworks DVDs had it, and then they all but dissapeared. Even most of the Superbit DTS discs only have half-bitrate DTS tracks.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by theknub

agreed there... of course, it still isn't good enough after what i hear from you uncompressed people

Originally Posted by DaveFi

Actually, full bitrate DTS is 1536Kbps and it rocks. Some of the early Dreamworks DVDs had it, and then they all but dissapeared. Even most of the Superbit DTS discs only have half-bitrate DTS tracks.

^^ All true.

[Deciazulado]

And Laserdiscs. Laserdisc had full bit rate DTS. *Loves his Jurassic Park Widescreen DTS Laserdisc

[Horus100]

if you are in the market for a receiver with HDMI do not buy SONY'S STRDA5200ES. It is expensive and it sucks

[dewey79]

Does anyone recommend this reciever for decoding next generation audio? (Sony STR-DG800) Is this a good reciever to run an hdmi cable from ps3 to reciever, and and hdmi cable from the reciever to the tv and get pcm lossless audio?

[dewey79]

I was also looking at a couple of revievers at the sonystyle link.

They have two different types of recievers I was curious about. One of them is called and ES reciever and they cost more. However, they say nothing about HDMI connectivity. Does anyone know the bottom line in the difference of the ES recievers and the regular HDMI reciever?

[dewey79]

I bought a HDMI monster cable that cost $100. (Sony Playstation 3 Monster Cable HDMI Cable (PS3HDMI-1080p)6.5ft-2m ) Which now believe is a rip off.

When the 1.3 HDMI recievers come out, will I need some type of 1.3 HDMI cable to take advantage of the new technology?

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by dewey79

I bought a HDMI monster cable that cost $100. (Sony Playstation 3 Monster Cable HDMI Cable (PS3HDMI-1080p)6.5ft-2m ) Which now believe is a rip off.

When the 1.3 HDMI recievers come out, will I need some type of 1.3 HDMI cable to take advantage of the new technology?

No you will not. That cable will be fine.

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by dewey79

Does anyone recommend this reciever for decoding next generation audio? (Sony STR-DG800) Is this a good reciever to run an hdmi cable from ps3 to reciever, and and hdmi cable from the reciever to the tv and get pcm lossless audio?

That reciever will not decode audio over HDMI. The HDMI ports are for video switching only. You will need to get the step up from that one, the STR-DG1000 which will decode audio over HDMI. It retails for about $799, but I'm sure you can find it cheaper online. There are other recievers that can be found cheaper that will decode audio over HDMI and do video switching.

[jarlene]

How about Sony DRG-1000?

Jay

[mparks29]

I have a pioneer VSX-82TXS. I have the pioneer blu-ray player and thps3 coneccted via hdmi. But the guys at 6th ave said I needed the optical cable for sound. I also have the sattalite connected via hdmi. They all go to the receiver. Now when I take the optical out of the ps3 or the b-r I cannot get anysound. Is there y I could get the better quality sound from HDMI?

[Bruuce]

Originally Posted by mparks29

I have a pioneer VSX-82TXS. I have the pioneer blu-ray player and thps3 coneccted via hdmi. But the guys at 6th ave said I needed the optical cable for sound. I also have the sattalite connected via hdmi. They all go to the receiver. Now when I take the optical out of the ps3 or the b-r I cannot get anysound. Is there y I could get the better quality sound from HDMI?

IIRC you can use hdmi with your VSX-82TXS for sound. It's the model #'s VSX-80TXV and VSX-81TXV that require optical for sound.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Bruuce

IIRC you can use hdmi with your VSX-82TXS for sound. It's the model #'s VSX-80TXV and VSX-81TXV that require optical for sound.

Only the VSX-80TXV has pass through only.
The VSX-81TXV and upwards (VSX-82TXS, VSX-84TXSi) will all accept audio through HDMI.

Connect an array of audio and video sources via six digital inputs, including two HDMI inputs compatible with the latest — and still to come — high-res 1080p sources like Blu-Ray Disc® players. With simplified one-cable connection to your HDTV, HDMI protects the digital purity of the signal for high-quality audio and video with no loss, and no mess of wires.

Originally Posted by DaveFi

Actually, full bitrate DTS is 1536Kbps and it rocks. Some of the early Dreamworks DVDs had it, and then they all but dissapeared. Even most of the Superbit DTS discs only have half-bitrate DTS tracks.

A number of Universal releases also had it, generally the ones that ask you to pick between Dolby and DTS before any other menu comes up and don't allow for audio changing on the fly.
Here's an excellent list of SD DVD DTS tracks and their bitrates.
http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_6a.asp

Originally Posted by minchtree

I currently don't have a receiver that has a HDMI input, and I'm in the market for a blu-ray player. What audio will I be able to play using the optical out instead of the HDMI?

If you're in the market for a Blu-ray player and it's not going to be the PS3, then you'll be able to use the analog outs for lossless PCM.
Does your receiver have "Multi-channel Inputs" on the back? If you're not sure give us the model number and we'll find out for you.

[mparks29]

So what changes do I have to make to get the soung without using the optical connection. While playing ps3 I took out the optical and no sound. I also did the same for the BD player. Please guide me to what I have to do?? Thank You

[theknub]

setup the ps3 to output audio via hdmi