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Old 07-28-2008, 08:22 PM   #1
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Monster HDMI VS Monoprice

reading many forums and answers from people who know alot more then me i still feel like I am not 100% sure i trust the Monoprice cable.

I work at circuit citiy and i am "pushed to sell monster because of the 68% margin over the cheap 5% margin cables.

this is how i look at it. Yes it is a digital cable it either works or not they both send the 0 1 signal and are both certified for loseless.

correct me if i am wrong but if we look at this the same way compared to a TV why not buy a 1080p vizio or 1080p Element. Vizio is a lot cheaper and would have the same number of lines compared to a 1080p Samsung. But why does the Samsung look better and cost more? I understand it has a big margin but is it not more reliable then a Vizio? wasn't more money put for the best parts and make sure it works? (i know resolution isnt everything)

now lets go back to Monster yes it is more expensive but why is it no one here buying a vizio but a expensive TV and owns the cheap cables? I say you are going to buy a TV once 5-10 years and most people here have a blu ray player and a good home theatre system is the extra $100 really going to kill you after spending over $3000 for top of the line electronics?

for my TV i have all 1000 Monster HDMI and with my employee discoount i get them for $40 but i am sure if i still had to pay full price i would still buy them.

please do correct me i know i do make mistakes.
and for the recod i have nothing against Monoprice i think they are a good website for those who can't afford the $100 HDMI cables

Thank you for taking time to read my Thread
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:25 PM   #2
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the difference is those sammys and sonys can do many things that the vizios and elements can't in terms of showing motion correctly, rendering colors better, etc.

the moster cables don't do anything (or at least to the naked eye and ear as far as i know) that those monoprice cables can't.

My HDMI cable is the "Official" PS3 one I bought from Sony Style for $39.99. So, I have no bias really towards either Monster or Monoprice, but from all the evidence I have seen, Monster gives the customer nothing more than monoprice does.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:45 PM   #3
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the difference is those sammys and sonys can do many things that the vizios and elements can't in terms of showing motion correctly, rendering colors better, etc.

the moster cables don't do anything (or at least to the naked eye and ear as far as i know) that those monoprice cables can't.

My HDMI cable is the "Official" PS3 one I bought from Sony Style for $39.99. So, I have no bias really towards either Monster or Monoprice, but from all the evidence I have seen, Monster gives the customer nothing more than monoprice does.
I too am using the sony hdmi cables that are for the PS3. 1 for the PS3, one on my BD-P1500 and 1 for my HD-DVD player. They all work fine. Monster may make some nice cables, but am I really going to notice a big difference! Im kinda doubting it.
 
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For your TV example you're forgetting that it's not just the resolution that matters. Remember CONTRAST first and foremost, color accuracy, 120Hz capability, etc.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #5
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Monster is not bad, just overpriced. Cable quality becomes much more important on long runs, but I think one thing that also gets overlooked is that HDMI 1.3 requires EQing the signal so the higher frequencies transmit and receive more reliably. So even a average 20-m cable may perform just as well as higher quality cable over the same distance.

With that being said, I use a 25-ft Monoprice 1.3 HDMI cable from my receiver to my Epson 1080UB projector w/o issue. The PS3 set to 1080p is my main source. The cable cost me $40. Monster cable would have cost me well into the 3-digits.

Clint DeBoer at Audioholics recently did some testing of HDMI cables and I think that the end result was that at short lengths (under 2m) every cable could transmit the current HDMI maximum datarate.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:44 PM   #6
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just ordered a HDMI cable from monoprice i want to get my hands one one and check to see if any noticeable differences are available.
 
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:48 PM   #8
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
Bluejeans cable is also very highly regarded here. Hell, they're fighting off ridiculous Monster lawsuits right now (that your sales are helping fund. )
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:48 PM   #9
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
Then why come did you defend Monster and make Monoprice cables sound inferior?

Edit: You're making me bring the street out in me.

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Old 07-28-2008, 09:15 PM   #10
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
How do you intend on "testing" it?
 
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
You ready to return those overprice monster cables?
 
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just ordered a HDMI cable from monoprice i want to get my hands one one and check to see if any noticeable differences are available.
I did my own testing too. I had a 40.00 6' HDMI cable from Walmart and a 1.87 6' HDMI cable from Amazon. I tested the 40 dollar one first then the 1.87 one. I used all the same equipment, PS3 and same Bluray movie. Guess what? No difference in audio/video quality. I recently needed some longer cables so I bought 3, 15 footer HDMI's from Amazon again for a total price of 25.00. They all work just as well.
I also can afford more expensive cables but choose not to throw my money away.

Not for nothing but most of the big box stores, best Buy, Circuit City etc are very deceptive about HDMI cables. They have the average person fooled by only carrying Monster cables. People really believe they ar the best.
At least you ordered one from Monoprice so you could test it yourself. Just do the test as I and others have. Use all the same equipment and same movie and you will see that the proof is in the pudding.
 
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I just ordered my Monster cable 1000 off ebay for 15.00 bucks so you can get the over priced cables for less on other sites. My current cable is a 10 one and works great. Ill post results for the so called best cable
 
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With salespeople like the OP, it's no wonder the general public is confused and misled into buying extremely overpriced cables. It's pretty apparent that BB and CC brainwash all their employees to push the hell out of Monster cables. Why? Markup, of course.

Monoprice makes the same quality cable, and has much less markup for the previous mentioned reasons: no advertising, no legal fees, no brainwashing seminars for B&M employees, and they sell in volume.

Whether or not anyone can afford Monster cables, a savvy, well-informed consumer wouldn't piss money away like that. It's a ridiculous joke, and makes me so mad that the uninformed public falls for it. It's akin to the way I hate hearing BB employees saying to a customer "Just buy an upconverting DVD player and you'll get high def quality without having to pay for blu-ray." Or "Sure LCD is much better than plasma. That's why we sell so many LCD TVs and very few plasmas. Plasmas have burn in and give you cancer. LCDs don't have burn in and will survive nuclear war."

On the two times a year I'm forced to step foot into a BB or CC, I just want to shout "Get the hell out and do some research!!" at the top of my lungs, and then tell all the employees to go back to high school so they can get a real job someday.

No offense, of course, to those employees

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:28 PM   #15
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1st off, you're biased. I mean... lookit your name and avatar.

2ndly, your analogy is off. You can't compare complex electronics to a cable. There's much more going on there.

There are few people that say Monster cable is bad. It's just over-marketed, over-hyped and overpriced by a LARGE margin. The amount you pay for them shows that.

You're really not going to get any traction here with this thread. I can afford the more expensive cables. I choose not to part with my money in foolish ways, however.
 
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There are few people that say Monster cable is bad. It's just over-marketed, over-hyped and overpriced by a LARGE margin. The amount you pay for them shows that.
Their cheaper HDMI cables are deliberately limited so that their more expensive cables look better. I would say that is bad.
 
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Their cheaper HDMI cables are deliberately limited so that their more expensive cables look better. I would say that is bad.
On paper, anyway. I'm not sure they're truly limited except in materials.
 
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I may start my own HDMI cable thread...
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #19
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I may start my own HDMI cable thread...
i got a really good idea and you can use it if you want to.

Make a thread that discusses the different levels of grain that appear when you vary your HDMI cable on The Dark Knight.
 
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On paper, anyway. I'm not sure they're truly limited except in materials.
they are limited. we were at BB and we needed an hdmi cable, (this is before i knew about them) and the salesmen was trying to sell us the top of the line Monster cable ($130!) so we instead got the cheaper Monster cable which was like $70 bucks. I went home plugged it in, and I will tell you it had a crappy quality to it. So YES they are deliberatly limited.

We took it back and bought one from monoprice (which arent limited) for like $12. Picture quality=perfect
 
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