Elf - Warners Blows Another one - BD25 - Blu-ray Forum

depooter · 08-12-2008, 08:55 PM

Looks like Warner is messing up another BD Release. Elf will only be on a BD25 and most of the (excellent) supplements from the Infinifilm DVD are being dropped (including a great one hour documentary)...

This film deserves better and they could have cross promoted with Iron Man since Favreau directed..

Sigh...

kpkelley · 08-12-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by depooter

This film deserves better and they could have cross promoted with Iron Man since Favreau directed..

Sigh...

Iron Man is from a different studio, unlikely to have cross-promotion on two titles being released by different studios a month apart.

SS316SRV · 08-12-2008, 09:00 PM

If the movie looks good and sounds good, and does so with a BD25 then no harm. Just because it is a BD25 doesn't mean it is bad.

amtctt · 08-12-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

If the movie looks good and sounds good, and does so with a BD25 then no harm. Just because it is a BD25 doesn't mean it is bad.

agreed. it's a comedy, so mostly dialog. so, the audio shouldn't be taking up much space. i think it could turn out fine.

GGX · 08-12-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by amtctt

agreed. it's a comedy, so mostly dialog. so, the audio shouldn't be taking up much space. i think it could turn out fine.

I'm not one to limit myself to just "fine". I want the best possible presentation for all my movies on Blu-ray. Why wait for a double dip?

PowellPressburger · 08-12-2008, 09:23 PM

BD 25 is enough room for the film to have great picture and still carry 1-2 hours of bonus material those aren't ever high quality even on standard def either... so that is plenty of room.

A film of that length should only use say 17-20 so that leaves plenty for the extras.

depooter · 08-12-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

If the movie looks good and sounds good, and does so with a BD25 then no harm. Just because it is a BD25 doesn't mean it is bad.

I'm talking about the supplements. some people on these forums do like interesting documentaries, etc.

BD25 is the culprit in losing these things...

Marine Mike · 08-12-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by depooter

I'm talking about the supplements. some people on these forums do like interesting documentaries, etc.

BD25 is the culprit in losing these things...

Have you ever seen this movie before?

What kind of documentary would you expect them to include?

"Inside the Mind of Will Ferrell"
or
"What is Christmas All About?"
or
"Elf: Fact or Fiction?"

DetroitSportsFan · 08-12-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine Mike

What kind of documentary would you expect them to include?

He's talking about the documentary that's on the DVD.

Alan Gordon · 08-12-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine Mike

What kind of documentary would you expect them to include?

Below is a list of extras on the DVD. Note that they may not be complete:

Beyond the Movie Features:
Kids On Christmas
Deck The Halls
Santa Mania
Christmas In Tinsel Town
Fact Track

All-Access Pass Features:
Commentaries by Will Ferrell and Director Jon Favreau
Deleted/Alternate Scenes
Behind The Scenes: Tag Along With Will Ferrell; Film School For Kids; How They Made The North Pole; Lights, Camera, Puffin!; That's A Wrap...
Music From Elf

Fun 'N' Games:
Elf Karaoke
Read-Along, Elf - A Short Story of a Tall Tale
Buddy's Adventure Game: The Race Down Mt. Icing; Elf In the City; Snowball Fight; Fix Santa's Sleigh
Secret Elevator O' Fun

DVD-ROM Content:
Make Your Own Storybook
Be An Elf Photo Activity
Script-To-Screen
Image gallery
Printable Activities
And More!

The movie was an Infinifilm release.

~Alan

depooter · 08-12-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

Iron Man is from a different studio, unlikely to have cross-promotion on two titles being released by different studios a month apart.

I said could....much like what Daredevil is doing by at least mentioning Iron Man on a sticker for the BD release (as silly as that is)...

kpkelley · 08-12-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by depooter

I said could....much like what Daredevil is doing by at least mentioning Iron Man on a sticker for the BD release (as silly as that is)...

I just said it was unlikely. Besides Favreau doesn't quite have the cache yet.

GORT · 08-12-2008, 09:20 PM

Great another hate warner thread

DetroitSportsFan · 08-12-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by depooter

Elf will only be on a BD25 and most of the (excellent) supplements from the Infinifilm DVD are being dropped (including a great one hour documentary)...

That's for the double dip a few years from now.

MarkJ801 · 08-12-2008, 10:54 PM

Wooh! I'm just excited that we get this movie in blu

CAB · 08-12-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by depooter

Looks like Warner is messing up another BD Release. Elf will only be on a BD25 and most of the (excellent) supplements from the Infinifilm DVD are being dropped (including a great one hour documentary)...

This film deserves better and they could have cross promoted with Iron Man since Favreau directed..

Sigh...

It's Elf! Zero motion, low range on the soundtrack, and I can't remember and darks, much less blacks. Maybe they coulda used a BD-9 and we wouldn't know the difference.

ClaytonMG · 08-12-2008, 11:23 PM

First off, and I am going to be as nice as possible since people seem to not get this, THIS DISC MAY HAVE BEEN CREATED/ENCODED WHEN WB/NL WAS STILL SUPPORTING HD-DVD. Meaning they went by their limitations (or standards, whichever word would describe it).

Second, it's a short movie. A BD-25 is probably more than enough space.

Alan Gordon · 08-12-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

First off, and I am going to be as nice as possible since people seem to not get this, THIS DISC MAY HAVE BEEN CREATED/ENCODED WHEN WB/NL WAS STILL SUPPORTING HD-DVD. Meaning they went by their limitations (or standards, whichever word would describe it).

This is actually a very good possibility as Josh seems to imply on the front page that it has a DTS-HD MA soundtrack (compared to Dolby Digital or Dolby TrueHD). New Line may have encoded it last year and decided to hold off until this year to take advantage of Favreau's "Iron Man".

~Alan

xander · 08-12-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

First off, and I am going to be as nice as possible since people seem to not get this, THIS DISC MAY HAVE BEEN CREATED/ENCODED WHEN WB/NL WAS STILL SUPPORTING HD-DVD. Meaning they went by their limitations (or standards, whichever word would describe it).

Second, it's a short movie. A BD-25 is probably more than enough space.

Prepare to be wildly refuted by Lgans half page of bit-rate data. That will show you to be optimistic!!

ClaytonMG · 08-13-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xander

Prepare to be wildly refuted by Lgans half page of bit-rate data. That will show you to be optimistic!!

Yes... OF DISCS THAT HAVE ALREADY COME OUT!!! When trying to explain to him that things don't change over night and we're still going to be getting discs not optimized for Blu-Ray, it's like talking to a brick wall. You can't make a person like that understand simple logic.

Yes, some titles that are coming out were never released on HD DVD. HOWEVER THEY WERE CREATED WHEN HD DVD WAS STILL AROUND AND SINCE WB DOES THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE ENCODES THEY WERE SET UP FOR HD DVD.

08-12-2008, 08:55 PM	#1
depooter Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:468 Blu-ray collection:1168 Trading Score:633	Elf - Warners Blows Another one - BD25 Looks like Warner is messing up another BD Release. Elf will only be on a BD25 and most of the (excellent) supplements from the Infinifilm DVD are being dropped (including a great one hour documentary)... This film deserves better and they could have cross promoted with Iron Man since Favreau directed.. Sigh...

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08-12-2008, 09:00 PM	#3
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	If the movie looks good and sounds good, and does so with a BD25 then no harm. Just because it is a BD25 doesn't mean it is bad.

08-12-2008, 09:23 PM	#6
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:1015 Blu-ray collection:3688 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:301	BD 25 is enough room for the film to have great picture and still carry 1-2 hours of bonus material those aren't ever high quality even on standard def either... so that is plenty of room. A film of that length should only use say 17-20 so that leaves plenty for the extras.

08-12-2008, 09:20 PM	#13
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08-12-2008, 11:23 PM	#17
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:845 Blu-ray collection:2384 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	First off, and I am going to be as nice as possible since people seem to not get this, THIS DISC MAY HAVE BEEN CREATED/ENCODED WHEN WB/NL WAS STILL SUPPORTING HD-DVD. Meaning they went by their limitations (or standards, whichever word would describe it). Second, it's a short movie. A BD-25 is probably more than enough space.

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