U.S. Broadband Is Slow - Blu-ray Forum

Y3k Bug · 08-13-2008, 05:21 PM

I found this to be an interesting article in light of the push by certain companies to have downloaded movies be the wave of the future:

Surprise, Surprise: U.S. Broadband Is Slow. Really Slow

Some snippets of the article:

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Chicago (IL) - U.S. broadband speeds are the focus of a recently conducted study by Communications Workers of America (CWA) union and the results are not especially flattering for broadband service providers on these shores. The U.S. comes in 15th on a worldwide scale, far behind the leaders Japan, South Korea and Finland.

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A file that takes four minutes to download in South Korea would take nearly an hour and a half to download in the U.S. using the average bandwidth. Japanese users leaves U.S. users behind with an eye-popping 63.60 Mb/s download link. This means that Japanese can download an entire movie in just two minutes, as opposed to two hours or more here in the U.S. Just in case you are wondering: No, Japanese users do not pay more for their broadband connections. In fact, U.S. broadband cost is among the highest in the world.

I live in one of the states where the speed has actually decreased, lucky me. I wonder if I can just run a REALLY long network cable from Japan...hmmm.

sssick · 08-13-2008, 05:48 PM

Isn't that the American way? Less product for more money?

ThePhantomOak · 08-13-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sssick

Isn't that the American way? Less product for more money?

Business is business. Americans have no problem paying for it, te demand for faster internet is not backed up with consumer money of government regulation, so the status quo continues.

I pay $14 for 1MB upload. Not bad, but it is a promotional deal.

sssick · 08-14-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

Business is business. Americans have no problem paying for it, te demand for faster internet is not backed up with consumer money of government regulation, so the status quo continues.

I pay $14 for 1MB upload. Not bad, but it is a promotional deal.

I'm not complaining, just stating fact.

Plus, I have Fios 20 meg for $39.99.

Nerdkiller likes BD · 08-14-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sssick

I'm not complaining, just stating fact.

Plus, I have Fios 20 meg for $39.99.

You're lucky. Here in Ireland, the fastest speed that I know of (15 meg) costs a hefty €110 a month. Who do they think we have, loaded pockets?

nelsona · 08-14-2008, 01:44 PM

My only two issues with the article are:

1. Land mass, easier to have a high speed infrastructure when your country is the size of Montana vs all 50 states.

2. 63Mb/s would be awesome, you won't see that speed from Japan to the US. On a speedtest my connection drops in speed by over half going from here to Tokyo.

With that said, I hope the report helps bring faster speeds in this country.

sssick · 08-14-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

You're lucky. Here in Ireland, the fastest speed that I know of (15 meg) costs a hefty €110 a month. Who do they think we have, loaded pockets?

I'm Irish, but I'm glad I don't live there.

ThePhantomOak · 08-14-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sssick

I'm not complaining, just stating fact.

Plus, I have Fios 20 meg for $39.99.

Oh, sorry, I was just piggybacking on your sarcastic comment (if i read it right)... Not a slam on you in any way...

Layd Dly · 08-14-2008, 09:39 PM

I guess i am not doing to bad at 15mb Down and 2mb Up since Road Runner just upgraded, i would like at least 4-5 up but o well, i was just at 7 Up and 1 Down.

Bizi Jones · 08-14-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sssick

Isn't that the American way? Less product for more money?

eh, I think you're thinking Canada....44 a month for ~6 down ~600 up +
25 for unlimited bandwidth (60g cap) + tax = huge ass rip off...and since there's only 2 providers in the area its about the same rip off either way...

I wish we could get ripped off like in the US...

ZackL · 08-13-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y3k Bug

I found this to be an interesting article in light of the push by certain companies to have downloaded movies be the wave of the future:

Surprise, Surprise: U.S. Broadband Is Slow. Really Slow

Some snippets of the article:

I live in one of the states where the speed has actually decreased, lucky me. I wonder if I can just run a REALLY long network cable from Japan...hmmm.

Yeah, ive got family in Finland and it's much quicker.

cravnsn · 08-13-2008, 07:44 PM

Probably unrelated, but lately my Comcast (Twin Cities MN area) has been really bad. Long load times & pauses, even after cleaning up with ant-ad-ware programs

Betty Page · 08-15-2008, 02:03 AM

my internet is ALWAYS slow lol

dadkins · 08-15-2008, 05:03 AM

Download Speed: 17049 kbps (2131.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3104 kbps (388 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 25 ms

I'll live... at least until something better is offered.

katharsis · 08-17-2008, 06:42 AM

I think compared to most of the rest of the world it really sucks in the US.

Another big downer living in Hawaii. All we can choose from is either Verizon (Hawaiian Telcom) DSL or Time Warner (Oceanic's Road Runner) Cable. There is a few wireless companies, but that is just enough bandwidth to get to your email account and maybe check some new ebay listings.

I've tried both and to be honest they are not worth the money you have to pay for it. DSL had to much outages that I canceled after a month of service.
Right now basic cable (4mb/512kbp) is $44.95 and if you want Turbo (8/1) its an extra $10.00
Outages still happen because the whole network is too old and the wires they're using split between too many households.
My dad pays 39.99 Euros in Germany (includes phone, a fax line, card for mobile and DSL) for a 16mb/2mb line! And that is just standard!!!

I've tried a few lines on the mainland, mainly on the West Coast and they are just a bit faster than what we get here.

The main concern is that our business owns big servers mainly in Europe and the upload rate from here to there just get throttles down more and more.

We just bought ADSL 10/10 line for $1200.00 a month... so far so good, but I still only get about 1.5mbs upload per ftp client open.

Due to speedtest.net its 12500kbps / 9500kbps

I wish to get the Japan speeds, especially for my home connection, or at least a solid fiber line within the next 2 years (dream on!)

PS3-Playb3yond · 08-17-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dadkins

Download Speed: 17049 kbps (2131.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3104 kbps (388 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 25 ms

I'll live... at least until something better is offered.

What more can you ask for? I would be happy with what you have.

dadkins · 08-18-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

What more can you ask for? I would be happy with what you have.

For the most part, I am.
I could stand a couple more mbps upload though - like about 8 more.

Ever try to backup, offsite, a 13GB system image?
@ 2-3mbps, is isn't nearly as bad as it was with 768kbps, but it's still a drag.

BR7 · 08-17-2008, 06:55 AM

Your lucky you guys can get it.Not everyone in the USA is so lucky.I cant get it where I live and I refuse to get Satellite DSL

Xerosaber · 08-17-2008, 09:11 AM

hehe i have fiber optic internet. 100mbps connection speed both ways. its sad sometimes because its too fast for my ethernet port to handle. i can download movies in minutes and songs in seconds. its one of the few benefits of living in a foreign country.

katharsis · 08-17-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Xerosaber

hehe i have fiber optic internet. 100mbps connection speed both ways. its sad sometimes because its too fast for my ethernet port to handle. i can download movies in minutes and songs in seconds. its one of the few benefits of living in a foreign country.

Where you at? Want to share you line?!

08-17-2008, 06:55 AM	#18
BR7 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Sioux City,IA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:25 Trading Score:35	Your lucky you guys can get it.Not everyone in the USA is so lucky.I cant get it where I live and I refuse to get Satellite DSL Last edited by BR7; 08-17-2008 at 07:02 AM.

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08-13-2008, 05:48 PM	#2
sssick Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008	Isn't that the American way? Less product for more money?

08-14-2008, 01:44 PM	#6
nelsona Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Baltimore Blu-ray collection:78 Trading Score:17	My only two issues with the article are: 1. Land mass, easier to have a high speed infrastructure when your country is the size of Montana vs all 50 states. 2. 63Mb/s would be awesome, you won't see that speed from Japan to the US. On a speedtest my connection drops in speed by over half going from here to Tokyo. With that said, I hope the report helps bring faster speeds in this country.

08-14-2008, 09:39 PM	#9
Layd Dly Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Orlando, Florida Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:405 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	I guess i am not doing to bad at 15mb Down and 2mb Up since Road Runner just upgraded, i would like at least 4-5 up but o well, i was just at 7 Up and 1 Down.

08-13-2008, 07:44 PM	#12
cravnsn Banned Member since:Aug 2008	Probably unrelated, but lately my Comcast (Twin Cities MN area) has been really bad. Long load times & pauses, even after cleaning up with ant-ad-ware programs

08-15-2008, 02:03 AM	#13
Betty Page Banned Member since:Aug 2008	my internet is ALWAYS slow lol

08-15-2008, 05:03 AM	#14
dadkins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Hercules, CA Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:2	Download Speed: 17049 kbps (2131.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3104 kbps (388 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: 25 ms I'll live... at least until something better is offered.

08-17-2008, 06:42 AM	#15
katharsis Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:SoCal Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:379 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	I think compared to most of the rest of the world it really sucks in the US. Another big downer living in Hawaii. All we can choose from is either Verizon (Hawaiian Telcom) DSL or Time Warner (Oceanic's Road Runner) Cable. There is a few wireless companies, but that is just enough bandwidth to get to your email account and maybe check some new ebay listings. I've tried both and to be honest they are not worth the money you have to pay for it. DSL had to much outages that I canceled after a month of service. Right now basic cable (4mb/512kbp) is $44.95 and if you want Turbo (8/1) its an extra $10.00 Outages still happen because the whole network is too old and the wires they're using split between too many households. My dad pays 39.99 Euros in Germany (includes phone, a fax line, card for mobile and DSL) for a 16mb/2mb line! And that is just standard!!! I've tried a few lines on the mainland, mainly on the West Coast and they are just a bit faster than what we get here. The main concern is that our business owns big servers mainly in Europe and the upload rate from here to there just get throttles down more and more. We just bought ADSL 10/10 line for $1200.00 a month... so far so good, but I still only get about 1.5mbs upload per ftp client open. Due to speedtest.net its 12500kbps / 9500kbps I wish to get the Japan speeds, especially for my home connection, or at least a solid fiber line within the next 2 years (dream on!)

08-17-2008, 09:11 AM	#19
Xerosaber Active Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:93 Trading Score:10	hehe i have fiber optic internet. 100mbps connection speed both ways. its sad sometimes because its too fast for my ethernet port to handle. i can download movies in minutes and songs in seconds. its one of the few benefits of living in a foreign country.

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