Are you going to adapt to every new HD level? - Blu-ray Forum

andytoh · 06-07-2007, 11:26 PM

From VHS to DVD to blu-ray, each level separated about one decade apart. So I can't help but look into the future: one decade later, Quad HD 1440p will be consumer ready, another decade later Super HD, etc...

Because we are high definition fanatics, can I assume that we will all basically buy new TVs and disc players for each new HD level every decade (when the prices drop to reasonable levels)? Also, will you also buy the same favourite movies and TV series for each new HD generation disk format? For me, this would mean that by 2030, I will have (for example) Titanic in VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, Quad Blu-Ray, Super Blu-Ray, etc... when all the older formats would be useless, and the same for my other favourite movies. That's a wasted wasted $100+ for each favourite movie, $1000+ for each favourite TV series, etc...

andytoh · 06-07-2007, 11:38 PM

After watching every episode of Star Trek on DVD, I'm now bored of it. If it came out on blu-ray now, I don't think I will buy the same collection, even though it is one of my favourite TV shows. However, 5 years later I may be in the mood to watch the whole thing again. Then I would be torn apart, deciding whether to watch it on the DVDs I already have but miss out on watching it on Blu-Ray, or spend $500 on the Blu-Ray version and then feel I wasted my $300 buying it on DVD in the first place. I feel the same way about my other favourite TV series, documentary series, and movies.

Banjo · 06-07-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andytoh

After watching every episode of Three's Company on DVD, I'm now bored of it. If it came out on blu-ray now, I don't think I will buy the same collection, even though it is one of my favourite TV shows. However, 5 years later I may be in the mood to watch the whole thing again. Then I would be torn apart, deciding whether to watch it on the DVDs I already have but miss out on watching it on Blu-Ray, or spend $500 on the Blu-Ray version and then feel I wasted my $300 buying it on DVD in the first place. I feel the same way about my other favourite TV series, documentary series, and movies.

You wouldn't benefit from watching 'Three's Company' in HD because the master isn't in HD. Not every show is going to get the 'Star Trek' treatment.

I don't think a large number of TV shows from the 90s and the past decades will be coming to Blu-Ray in HD because most of them weren't mastered in HD.

MrBogey · 06-07-2007, 11:49 PM

When looking at a 40" plus size set HD is a clear difference. The higher resolutions above 1080p aren't going to be significantly different to 99 percent of the people though.

andytoh · 06-07-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

You wouldn't benefit from watching 'Three's Company' in HD because the master isn't in HD. Not every show is going to get the 'Star Trek' treatment.

I don't think a large number of TV shows from the 90s and the past decades will be coming to Blu-Ray in HD because most of them weren't mastered in HD.

Ok, Three's Company is a bad example. So replace my discussion with Star Trek and Smallville, which I have all on DVD currently.

Banjo · 06-07-2007, 11:39 PM

Only if I think it's going somewhere.

I didn't bother with D-VHS because I knew it wouldn't last.

blitz6speed · 06-07-2007, 11:41 PM

I always believe in 1:1 pixel mapping for best visual performance. So unless theres a TON of content out for 1440p and 4k res systems, 1080p will be where i will stand for a long time.

andytoh · 06-07-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Only if I think it's going somewhere.

I'm not talking about a new format of the same high definition level, but a better high definition level altogether. Why would Quad HD not go anywhere in the future when its price drops to current HD prices?

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

So unless theres a TON of content out for 1440p and 4k res systems, 1080p will be where i will stand for a long time.

So even when 1440p TVs cost only $1500 and 1440p blu-ray movies cost only $15 and TV broadcasts are in 1440p (in 2018 around), you won't adapt from 1080p to 1440p equipment?

Banjo · 06-07-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by andytoh

I'm not talking about a new format of the same high definition level, but a better high definition level altogether. Why would Quad HD not go anywhere in the future when its price drops to current HD prices?

What are they going to watch in 1440p?

Blu-Ray and HD DVD will only go up to 1920x1080. Most HD channels are in 720p while some may be in 1080i. Both Xbox 360 and PS3 games can only go up to 720p or 1080p depending what they are set to.

So, I imagine the availability of materials in 1440p will be quite small.

We'll have to wait a tad longer than that to make a major change. 1080p is going to be around for a good while. People right now are already saying they're happy with the DVD. It's not easy to lure people into supporting a better format.

blitz6speed · 06-08-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

What are they going to watch in 1440p?

Blu-Ray and HD DVD will only go up to 1920x1080. Most HD channels are in 720p while some may be in 1080i. Both Xbox 360 and PS3 games can only go up to 720p or 1080p depending what they are set to.

So, I imagine the availability of materials in 1440p will be quite small.

We'll have to wait a tad longer than that to make a major change. 1080p is going to be around for a good while. People right now are already saying they're happy with the DVD. It's not easy to lure people into supporting a better format.

Sony said they will actually have 1440p contant out via the PS3 at some point in the future. Who knows what it will be tho.

Banjo · 06-08-2007, 12:03 AM

That'll be a nice treat. That's if I end up with a 1440p television set someday.

andytoh · 06-08-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

We'll have to wait a tad longer than that to make a major change. 1080p is going to be around for a good while. People right now are already saying they're happy with the DVD. It's not easy to lure people into supporting a better format.

Well, my opening post is intentionally ignoring the wait-time factor and just asking when the time comes (prices have dropped, a lot of content are out there), will you adapt (and so accept the financial loss for all the older stuff)? Obviously not an urgent question to think about, just curious.

The Don · 06-08-2007, 01:41 AM

since I've adopted BD so early in it's lifecycle...I may adopt the new HD format...

but it would really have to "wow" me to cause me to upgrade....

I don't see a need to go higher than Blu-ray and I'm not a fan of downloading movies....

the new format better be on my wall and raised off the surface in true 3D-HD (or whatever they will name this new format)....

it just better be damned impressive...

06-07-2007, 11:26 PM	#1
andytoh Member Member since:Jun 2007	Are you going to adapt to every new HD level? From VHS to DVD to blu-ray, each level separated about one decade apart. So I can't help but look into the future: one decade later, Quad HD 1440p will be consumer ready, another decade later Super HD, etc... Because we are high definition fanatics, can I assume that we will all basically buy new TVs and disc players for each new HD level every decade (when the prices drop to reasonable levels)? Also, will you also buy the same favourite movies and TV series for each new HD generation disk format? For me, this would mean that by 2030, I will have (for example) Titanic in VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, Quad Blu-Ray, Super Blu-Ray, etc... when all the older formats would be useless, and the same for my other favourite movies. That's a wasted wasted $100+ for each favourite movie, $1000+ for each favourite TV series, etc...

06-07-2007, 11:38 PM	#2
andytoh Member Member since:Jun 2007	After watching every episode of Star Trek on DVD, I'm now bored of it. If it came out on blu-ray now, I don't think I will buy the same collection, even though it is one of my favourite TV shows. However, 5 years later I may be in the mood to watch the whole thing again. Then I would be torn apart, deciding whether to watch it on the DVDs I already have but miss out on watching it on Blu-Ray, or spend $500 on the Blu-Ray version and then feel I wasted my $300 buying it on DVD in the first place. I feel the same way about my other favourite TV series, documentary series, and movies. Last edited by andytoh; 06-07-2007 at 11:52 PM.

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06-07-2007, 11:49 PM	#4
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	When looking at a 40" plus size set HD is a clear difference. The higher resolutions above 1080p aren't going to be significantly different to 99 percent of the people though.

06-07-2007, 11:39 PM	#6
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	Only if I think it's going somewhere. I didn't bother with D-VHS because I knew it wouldn't last.

06-07-2007, 11:41 PM	#7
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	I always believe in 1:1 pixel mapping for best visual performance. So unless theres a TON of content out for 1440p and 4k res systems, 1080p will be where i will stand for a long time.

06-08-2007, 12:03 AM	#11
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	That'll be a nice treat. That's if I end up with a 1440p television set someday.

06-08-2007, 01:41 AM	#13
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	since I've adopted BD so early in it's lifecycle...I may adopt the new HD format... but it would really have to "wow" me to cause me to upgrade.... I don't see a need to go higher than Blu-ray and I'm not a fan of downloading movies.... the new format better be on my wall and raised off the surface in true 3D-HD (or whatever they will name this new format).... it just better be damned impressive...

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