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Old 06-12-2007, 06:09 AM   #1
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Quick question, i keep reading posts on the forums stating that the "hi def war" will be over once BD+ comes out.My question is what is BD+???
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BD+ is an interpreter. its solely designed for security measures.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:22 AM   #3
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BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:23 PM   #4
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there is a section in the forums that explains BD+ for you somewhere, just check around
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:33 PM   #5
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BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.
I wonder about that (hacking) too, but Fox has held their titles back because they're waiting for BD+ to be finalized. I'm wondering if they're testing it or something in Japan, as they've begun announcing new titles for release over there.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:40 PM   #6
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I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.
Isn't it just a matter of time?
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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Isn't it just a matter of time?
It may well be - if it does get hacked, then will Fox and Disney see that as a reason to go format neutral? Will there be huge numbers of HD-DVD fanboy hackers working on hacking BD+ to help bring this about?
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #8
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It will get hacked. Everything always does. Can anyone name a security measure that didn't get reverse engineered?

Studios need to realize the people that acquire bootlegged/hacked movies.. will only get their movies that way. They not going to give up and start shopping at best buy with the money they don't have to start.

Consumers who buy BD like to acquire a HARD copy of the movie. And then display it nicely around their overpriced TV to secretly brag to their friends about how awesome their home theater and movie collection is.

There's a huge difference between brokeass teenage hackers and actual consumers who will buy the movie even if it is available for download.
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It may well be - if it does get hacked, then will Fox and Disney see that as a reason to go format neutral? Will there be huge numbers of HD-DVD fanboy hackers working on hacking BD+ to help bring this about?
No they won't go neutral because even if BD+ is hacked, BD still has better security and more disc space.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:30 AM   #10
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Now there will be! have you never heard of the war saying "Loose lips sink ships"
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BUT the extra security will allow studios to feel more comfortable about releasing Blu-rays and should result in more titles becoming available.

I do worry about what will happen if it gets hacked, though.
Not IF, but WHEN
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:15 AM   #12
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Quick question, i keep reading posts on the forums stating that the "hi def war" will be over once BD+ comes out.My question is what is BD+???
BD+ is effectively a small virtual machine embedded in authorized players. It allows content providers to include executable programs on Blu-ray discs.

Such programs can examine the host environment, to see if the player has been tampered with. Every licensed playback device manufacturer must provide the BD+ licensing authority with memory footprints that identifies their devices.

They also verify that the player's keys have not been changed. Execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise unsecure system. Transform the audio and video output. Parts of the content will not be viewable without letting the BD+-program descramble it.
If a playback device manufacturer finds that its devices have been hacked, it can potentially release BD+-code that detects and circumvents the vulnerability. These programs can then be included in all new content releases.

Hope this explains things.
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BD+ is effectively a small virtual machine embedded in authorized players. It allows content providers to include executable programs on Blu-ray discs.

Such programs can examine the host environment, to see if the player has been tampered with. Every licensed playback device manufacturer must provide the BD+ licensing authority with memory footprints that identifies their devices.

They also verify that the player's keys have not been changed. Execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise unsecure system. Transform the audio and video output. Parts of the content will not be viewable without letting the BD+-program descramble it.
If a playback device manufacturer finds that its devices have been hacked, it can potentially release BD+-code that detects and circumvents the vulnerability. These programs can then be included in all new content releases.

Hope this explains things.
So, its something that encoded onto the players not the discs or both? So that's the real reason for v2.0 from Sony. Or is it like a watermarking? If so...can BD+ potentially affect SQ or PQ in a negative way like watermarking can?
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