World of Warcraft PS3 petition

[NARMAK]

Seems my idea seems to be getting a lot of things that are wrong with the petition such as nobody listens to them

Marine Mike, thanks for sending an e-mail to Bill Gates bout it but since he doesn't have jack to do with it, i suggest you send the e-mail to the company Blizzard who own the game

As for companies not crying out for more customers cause they have 9 million already Aygie doesn't mean they wouldn't want more, if i said here Aygi, have a 100K bonus on top of your 500K, would you refuse, of course not, same principle here, they always would like to earn more

I can see where you guys are coming from with the keyboard & mouse requiremen, PS3 has the capability to use them since it has enough USB ports so we wouldn't need to limit ourselves to just a controller

World of Warcraft may be getting old but it's still one of the most polished out there

OK, some of you feel you miss out by not being there for sometime but if your wanting to play this type of game, that's the downside you accept

The people here all complaining have no interest to play this so if you have nothing positive to say in support, don't waste your time replying in this thread

[Marine Mike]

Its called Negative Reinforcement towards people trying to post petitions online.

The concept of Negative Reinforcement is difficult to teach and learn because of the word negative. Negative Reinforcement is often confused with Punishment. They are very different, however.

Negative Reinforcement strengthens a behavior because a negative condition is stopped or avoided as a consequence of the behavior.

Punishment, on the other hand, weakens a behavior because a negative condition is introduced or experienced as a consequence of the behavior.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by david2189

wow = dangerous addiction

can we have a petition to keep it off the ps3!?

He played the ENTIRE weekend EVERY weekend - and only stopped to eat. . . . sometimes.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by david2189

wow = dangerous addiction

Well remember that World of Warcraft episode of South Park? I think that the episode shows that we shouldn't take second lives seriously. I mean remember the time when that Korean child died because her parents were too busy playing WoW to care less? Or that guy who took his Everquest life so seriously, that he took his own? Sorry to sound like Jack Thompson here but MMORPG's are the devil (not literaly, but they can get you hooked in so much, that you just don't care for the outside world).

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Twankies08

We don't need that trash on the PS3!! Keep it on
the computer!!

We will, we will

P.S. I personally don't play this game, nor do I game often, but when I do play - they are usually games unique to PC - I like that

[chnandler_bong]

Originally Posted by onumb

If you have actually played this game, you would know that it takes a whole keyboard and mouse to have effective gameplay. Limiting yourself to a dozen buttons on a controller is setting yourself up for disaster.

That's not a big deal at all. I play FFXI Online on the 360 and that requires a KB and it works just fine. I'm assuming that the PC version of FFXI uses a mouse, and the 360 version does not use a mouse bu the game is still fully playable with a KB and controller. Since the PS3 has full KB/M support, this shouldn't be a problem.

BTW, this is my favorite YouTube video for WoW.

[chnandler_bong]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

Well remember that World of Warcraft episode of South Park? I think that the episode shows that we shouldn't take second lives seriously. I mean remember the time when that Korean child died because her parents were too busy playing WoW to care less? Or that guy who took his Everquest life so seriously, that he took his own? Sorry to sound like Jack Thompson here but MMORPG's are the devil (not literaly, but they can get you hooked in so much, that you just don't care for the outside world).

I hear that Florida is in the processing of dis-BARing or partially dis-BARing (is that possible?) Jack Thompson, so hopefully his brand of crazy will be taken off the shelves very soon.

[blu-rayfan101]

I read some stuff about Wow and Diablo fans saying it would be wrecked on a console, but I don't get it. I think I'll sign for the sake of the PS3!

[jkwest]

I won't go back there...I won't.....

haven't touched the WOW in over 8 months...my guildies still use my characters sometimes...

can't do it...won't let myself...

[Barnum]

Originally Posted by Twankies08

We don't need that trash on the PS3!! Keep it on
the computer!!

Trash please you must be kidding. One of the best selling and supported programs ever made is trash. What ever. Just because you don't like there are tens of millions that do.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by david2189

wow = dangerous addiction

can we have a petition to keep it off the ps3!?

I once got adicted to a mmorpg, I spent far too much time on it, i got completly addicted, luckily I hadn't had a gf in a while and i knew i wasn't gonna get one like this so i canceled my subscription, see just another reason to repect women they get you unhooked from mmorpgs.

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

Well remember that World of Warcraft episode of South Park? I think that the episode shows that we shouldn't take second lives seriously. I mean remember the time when that Korean child died because her parents were too busy playing WoW to care less? Or that guy who took his Everquest life so seriously, that he took his own? Sorry to sound like Jack Thompson here but MMORPG's are the devil (not literaly, but they can get you hooked in so much, that you just don't care for the outside world).

Being a former EQ addict with a character created March 12th, 2000 and over 300 days played (yes, 300 days played, real 24 hour periods), I can speak from experience on this.

It really goes beyond being a second life, but becomes your primary life. EVERYTHING I did in real life from ~ 2000 until 2004 revolved around EverQuest. When I ate, when I slept, when I worked, when I washed, when I went to the bathroom, when I traveled, when I dated, when I talked on the phone, when I watched TV, when I upgraded my PC -- everything. Your real life is the one that becomes secondary.

Overtime, everything faded out until EQ was the only thing that kept me interested, happy, and at peace. I was max level, good raid gear, and got as many AA's as I could get. I was constantly in a group, raid, or looking for group. I 'dated' on line characters, even going through an on line 'wedding'. If I couldn't find a group, I was chatting with guildmates while waiting or soloing or looking for someone to flirt with and hope it progressed. I watched TV only 4 times during that entire period, lost contact with all my old real life friends (online outside of EQ and off), cried over online breakups, lost sleep over corpse runs, forgot what a movie theater looked like inside, gained at least 50 lbs from sitting and drinking soda all day, didn't play ANY other game type but MMO's, and was always looking for the next big mmo fix as EQ started waxing old.

It got so bad, the only time I'd leave my house, much less my room was to get smokes, dinner was ready, or getting something to drink. My life was the world as a window beyond my computer screen. A place I'd rather be, and nothing else mattered. Pretend people, pretend armor, pretend money, pretend friendships, pretend lovers, and pretend marriages was the only thing that did matter. The fake world was real, and the real world was the fake one.

I remember being angry that sometimes I had to work later than usual, because I would be late to a raid and left out. If the job I had was on a swing, I'd schedule my days off for the more important raid nights. Ditching college classes (and subsequently dropping out ~ 2001) or work for a new expansion launch or patch. Skipping traveling vacations with my family because I would be away from EQ for a week. Jealous if my EQ SO was flirting with a 'new' person. I even quit a new job and was unemployed for over 9 months because the work schedules were too erratic to revolve my life around EQ and lied saying it was interfering with my college schedule (when I went back in 2003). Enough of that real life thing interference messing with me and my life.

Even more so, most of the people I played with on EQ was the same way. Their lives revolved around EQ and the characters there. Multiple people I knew dropped out of college. One person I know left her husband of 15 years, to go be with her EQ 'husband'. Another ditched his 2 teenage daughters to go be with someone from EQ 20 years younger -- never telling her until living together a year later. Another one of my friends got into Meth just to stay awake to play the game even longer (this happened somewhere between EQ to WoW). And yet another started feeling 'bad' while we were in a group, ignored it cause he was in a group, and DIED of a heart failure while playing WoW in which we were informed by his boyfriend of what happened. He had medical conditions anyway being a vet, so it's unknown if neglect caused it.

These were all the same people who played on EQ with me in my guild. We stuck together as a core group through various games. My only RL friend was also a fellow EQ player. He'd come over (because of his dad's complaining about his mmo addiction), bring his own PC, and even though we sat less than 1 foot away from each other, talk through the game using /tell. We'd stay up till 3 or 4am, wake up at noon, and start all over again. Most EQ players I knew transitioned to DaoC (along with myself) on the same server, got bored of that quickly, and returned to EQ. Later, we branched off into EQ2 and WoW, in which I played both but not with the same addiction.

I could say that if our guild did not break up between the two games (I didn't like WoW, i think it's vastly over-rated), and found launch EQ2 to suck at best, I would still be sitting day in and day out on an MMO somewhere.

Thankfully this transition happened right at the time I was starting to transition into normal life by going back to college, and finding a stable work place, and finding out that big bright ball in the sky that rose at an ungodly hour of 6am was the sun. That I should be waking up with the sun rise, and not going to bed with it. I later met my future wife through an FFXI / WoW friend, and thankfully, she didn't like MMO's. Finally my life started switch back into where it needed to be, and EQ and the addiction thereof was given a reason to be cut off. This all came to ahead when I started getting to involved into EQ2, and my future wife said it was either her, or EQ2.

Thank God she did that. Looking back, EQ was worse than any other addiction I've had including smoking. Even MMO's I played I couldn't help by comparing them to EQ. It really sucks you in slowly, and you keep begging for more. Nothing else is good enough. I feel sorry for those 8 million WoW players, as time goes on they too will get bored -- look for other games, but keep going back to their 'first'.

With all that said, I do believe MMO's should remain on the PC and not the console. At least with a PC, you're more apt to try to work for a living to increase your PC specs for an upcoming expansion. I think bringing MMO's to console is a bad idea for this generation of gamers. If people get to involved in FPS shooters and clans to start neglecting life, MMO's are the poison pill that will more than likely ruin or destroy the life they have.

[Copywriter]

My friend just went back to WoW. I said my goodbyes first.

I don't care about WoW or any other mmorpg anymore. After eons of playing them, I'm over the endless hours of grinding. When one comes out that's 100% quest-able along with quick leveling (compared to grinding), I might bite.

[Marine Mike]

Just finished jason_grumpy's life story and wow. You really nailed it on the head with what can happen to people when they allow a MMO to ever so slowly take over their life.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Just finished jason_grumpy's life story and wow. You really nailed it on the head with what can happen to people when they allow a MMO to ever so slowly take over their life.

I think the mmos you provide a how to get away from mmos class within the mmo, clever.

My addiction I'll admit was Star Wars Galaxies, I'd gone through the stages of watching every single Star Wars film 20 billion times each, and i knew the exact name of every veihcle in the Star Wars universe to the letter, and one day when I was on the SWs website I found out about this thing called SWG, downloaded the free 10 day trail, untill i eventually shelled out £100 yes 100 to get it off ebay, I then payed £120 a year for 3 years, overall thats £460. And I just kept on playing, I would get back after school or work depending what time it was and just go upstairs to my computer. It caused severe comunication breakdown with my family and is one of the reasons i stopped seeing my farther (my parents were never married although i did use to see him alot now never) But I carried on playing I made a whole life in there got married made friends, had a clan, hell we even bought our own cantina and eventually built a town for us to hang out in, I was spending more time on this a day then i was at school/work and sleeping combined, I ended up getting fat, only ordering pizzas and other food that could be delivered so i had the most time possible to level up. As I said earlier eventually after my friends started to stop talking to me and my lack of a (real) girlfreind (of which I used to have alot of) for over 9 months was just too much, I ended up deleting my account and everything about it, I even told one of my freinds (who was a Canadian and stayed up at like 5am in the morning his time just so we could take over theed together) that he should stop now before it killed him. To be honest don't know what happened to him my (fake) wife or anyone else that I knew.

But hey thats what I did.

[aygie]

Wha?!?! Wheres surfdude12's post gone?!?!?!

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by jason_grumpy

Being a former EQ addict with a character created March 12th, 2000 and over 300 days played (yes, 300 days played, real 24 hour periods), I can speak from experience on this.

It really goes beyond being a second life, but becomes your primary life. EVERYTHING I did in real life from ~ 2000 until 2004 revolved around EverQuest. When I ate, when I slept, when I worked, when I washed, when I went to the bathroom, when I traveled, when I dated, when I talked on the phone, when I watched TV, when I upgraded my PC -- everything. Your real life is the one that becomes secondary.

Overtime, everything faded out until EQ was the only thing that kept me interested, happy, and at peace. I was max level, good raid gear, and got as many AA's as I could get. I was constantly in a group, raid, or looking for group. I 'dated' on line characters, even going through an on line 'wedding'. If I couldn't find a group, I was chatting with guildmates while waiting or soloing or looking for someone to flirt with and hope it progressed. I watched TV only 4 times during that entire period, lost contact with all my old real life friends (online outside of EQ and off), cried over online breakups, lost sleep over corpse runs, forgot what a movie theater looked like inside, gained at least 50 lbs from sitting and drinking soda all day, didn't play ANY other game type but MMO's, and was always looking for the next big mmo fix as EQ started waxing old.

It got so bad, the only time I'd leave my house, much less my room was to get smokes, dinner was ready, or getting something to drink. My life was the world as a window beyond my computer screen. A place I'd rather be, and nothing else mattered. Pretend people, pretend armor, pretend money, pretend friendships, pretend lovers, and pretend marriages was the only thing that did matter. The fake world was real, and the real world was the fake one.

I remember being angry that sometimes I had to work later than usual, because I would be late to a raid and left out. If the job I had was on a swing, I'd schedule my days off for the more important raid nights. Ditching college classes (and subsequently dropping out ~ 2001) or work for a new expansion launch or patch. Skipping traveling vacations with my family because I would be away from EQ for a week. Jealous if my EQ SO was flirting with a 'new' person. I even quit a new job and was unemployed for over 9 months because the work schedules were too erratic to revolve my life around EQ and lied saying it was interfering with my college schedule (when I went back in 2003). Enough of that real life thing interference messing with me and my life.

Even more so, most of the people I played with on EQ was the same way. Their lives revolved around EQ and the characters there. Multiple people I knew dropped out of college. One person I know left her husband of 15 years, to go be with her EQ 'husband'. Another ditched his 2 teenage daughters to go be with someone from EQ 20 years younger -- never telling her until living together a year later. Another one of my friends got into Meth just to stay awake to play the game even longer (this happened somewhere between EQ to WoW). And yet another started feeling 'bad' while we were in a group, ignored it cause he was in a group, and DIED of a heart failure while playing WoW in which we were informed by his boyfriend of what happened. He had medical conditions anyway being a vet, so it's unknown if neglect caused it.

These were all the same people who played on EQ with me in my guild. We stuck together as a core group through various games. My only RL friend was also a fellow EQ player. He'd come over (because of his dad's complaining about his mmo addiction), bring his own PC, and even though we sat less than 1 foot away from each other, talk through the game using /tell. We'd stay up till 3 or 4am, wake up at noon, and start all over again. Most EQ players I knew transitioned to DaoC (along with myself) on the same server, got bored of that quickly, and returned to EQ. Later, we branched off into EQ2 and WoW, in which I played both but not with the same addiction.

I could say that if our guild did not break up between the two games (I didn't like WoW, i think it's vastly over-rated), and found launch EQ2 to suck at best, I would still be sitting day in and day out on an MMO somewhere.

Thankfully this transition happened right at the time I was starting to transition into normal life by going back to college, and finding a stable work place, and finding out that big bright ball in the sky that rose at an ungodly hour of 6am was the sun. That I should be waking up with the sun rise, and not going to bed with it. I later met my future wife through an FFXI / WoW friend, and thankfully, she didn't like MMO's. Finally my life started switch back into where it needed to be, and EQ and the addiction thereof was given a reason to be cut off. This all came to ahead when I started getting to involved into EQ2, and my future wife said it was either her, or EQ2.

Thank God she did that. Looking back, EQ was worse than any other addiction I've had including smoking. Even MMO's I played I couldn't help by comparing them to EQ. It really sucks you in slowly, and you keep begging for more. Nothing else is good enough. I feel sorry for those 8 million WoW players, as time goes on they too will get bored -- look for other games, but keep going back to their 'first'.

With all that said, I do believe MMO's should remain on the PC and not the console. At least with a PC, you're more apt to try to work for a living to increase your PC specs for an upcoming expansion. I think bringing MMO's to console is a bad idea for this generation of gamers. If people get to involved in FPS shooters and clans to start neglecting life, MMO's are the poison pill that will more than likely ruin or destroy the life they have.

Wow. Wow. I've heard of addictions, but the people who play Everquest are something else. No wonder it has had names like Neverest or Evercrack (which from where I've read in your post took itself a bit too seriously). I'm gald I never got WoW or Everquest now that I read that (well that and the subscription charges). Now, I'm not really sure if I support China's 4 hr a day policy on MMORPG's or against it (well 4 hr's is enough so I guess I lean toward that side). Well maybe they should keep MMORPG's off consoles but other MMO's (like the upcoming Agency) should be welcome.

[ajkj9]

wow on the ps3 would mean 500 pounds, no gf, and sitting in front of the tv 20 hours a day. No thanks.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by ajkj9

wow on the ps3 would mean 500 pounds, no gf, and sitting in front of the tv 20 hours a day. No thanks.

You mean like this guy:

[XundeadhunterX]

Originally Posted by david2189

wow = dangerous addiction

can we have a petition to keep it off the ps3!?

+1 i wish WoW would be destroyed. plus when they say 9 million ppl they still cound the players that no longer use there accounts AND accounts tht have been frozen. crap belongs on crap so put it on the 360 and pay M$ outragious rates plus Blizzards crappy rates. but then again the 360 failure rate would skyrocket b/c ppl play or hours and hours so it would destroy the 360; therefore defeting thy enemy lmfao