Jupiter Ascending 3D Blu-ray (2015) [Region Free]

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

From what I can find, mostly rumors online from awhile ago.
I'd want to see a "rebooting" of the Matrix computer, with a new One who is already self aware, maybe a female lead, and working their way to free human minds from the Matrix Robots once and for all. They could add all new rules to the Matrix to set it apart from the first film, with new enemy types.

That simply goes against the universe though. It makes more sense if you have seen the animatrix, but humanity surrendered after they started the war. Machines needed a power source and have no interest in completely freeing humans who where the party who first attacked them and started a war. The machines now are in a position whereby they can't loose the war, they have all the power. As they needed help Neo came to an agreement with them that all anomalies (those aware of something being wrong) in the matrix would be freed and allowed to live in zion. Which means humanity can continue with individuals happy, the anomalies don't have to live a lie, and those who are unaware get to live far better lives in the matrix.

I really don't think the trilogy needs to be continued and would be disappointed if it was.

Originally Posted by tigermoth

Thought they were doing three more Matrix movies next?

Mayeb they where statements to mislead what was coming next and keep attention on the current film. I don't think that is the case though.

[GenPion]

Originally Posted by mseeley

Collider.com had a great interview with the wachowskis but they gave a very confusing answer as to whether the matrix trilogy would be rereleased in 3d and I couldn't tell whether they said yes or no. The matrix trilogy is absolutely perfect for 3d and I was shocked how many 3d esque shots were in all the movies. The 3d conversio needs to happen!

It sounds like they see no point to it as that wasn't how it was done "originally". Because they planned for Jupiter Ascending to get a 3D release they felt it made more sense.

However, it might just be an issue of them wanting input on a 3D version. If WB asked them to be involved they might be more supportive of it, than, say... having a bunch of people working on it with no directorial input as to how the 3D should be used.

Oh, and I completely agree with you that a Matrix 3D Trilogy re-release would be phenomenal. Probably one of the easiest "should-be" converted efforts. If it is done right it would be an incredible thing and it would even fit with the story and concept.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by mseeley

I saw this in Imax 3d yesterday and while I left feeling very confused about what I thought of the film, I couldn't shake off a feeling of awe of what I had witnessed and I couldn't stop thinking about the film all day at work.

The 3d was absolutely amazing in my opinion, with high medium to strong 3d frequently throughout. The aerial battle/chase in Chicago at the beginning is one of the greatest action sequences ever made and the 3d really made me feel like I was flying and it made my stomach churn a bit because the 3d was that immersive and strong in that sequence.

There's so much to talk and debate about the film that I feel like I need another viewing and I do want to see it again. The Wachowski's may not have their Matrix magic back, but they still put on a hell of a show and make you think about the wondrous storytelling possibilities of cinema

This brings up a good point. People are quick these days to dismiss a film entirely, based on a single complaint or a weak aspect of the film. Granted, a weak plot is certainly a pretty big hurdle for a film to overcome, but can't people appreciate a film for what it does have to offer? Films are a combination of lots of elements - cinematography, lighting, visual effects, acting, story...most critics are saying this film should be skipped - yet those same critics are saying the effects and action scenes are amazing. So then can't people just appreciate the film on a visual level? Films are meant to get a response out of people and create an emotion. Why can't a film do that based on its visuals alone? I think any fan of sci-fi action or visual effects would be missing out if they skipped this. I read tons of bad reviews for the Total Recall remake, and while the film wasn't as good as the original (imo), the effects were stunning, and the world it created was worth the price of admission. Sadly, I skipped that one based on the reviews. I regretted skipping it once I saw it on blu-ray.

Come to think of it, Cloud Atlas and Speed Racer both got terrible reviews also, and both of those were also visually stunning, and I regret missing those in the theatre. Cloud Atlas had some interesting concepts, and Speed Racer was just a ton of fun.

[Suntory_Times]

^ It is the overall impact. One thing if enjoyable enough can ruin a film for myself. In particular the number of larger budget films with increasingly horrible writing is worrisome. Sure some are still fantastic and have good writing (edge of tomorrow, interstellar) but the number that aren't simply bad but embarrassing to a degree that is scary (tmnt, in particular tas2, tf age of extinction [though it does seem as if some good ideas where destroyed by mr bay and the short schedule it had], divergent and so on) and it only seems to be getting worse.

Don't get me wrong their can be flaws in good films, but some flaws for some are to much to overlook. It may seem minor to others but taste is a funny beast.

The thing that interests me the most about Jupiter Ascending is Eddie Redmayne as the villain. A very under rated actor.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

That simply goes against the universe though. It makes more sense if you have seen the animatrix, but humanity surrendered after they started the war. Machines needed a power source and have no interest in completely freeing humans who where the party who first attacked them and started a war. The machines now are in a position whereby they can't loose the war, they have all the power. As they needed help Neo came to an agreement with them that all anomalies (those aware of something being wrong) in the matrix would be freed and allowed to live in zion. Which means humanity can continue with individuals happy, the anomalies don't have to live a lie, and those who are unaware get to live far better lives in the matrix.

I really don't think the trilogy needs to be continued and would be disappointed if it was.

SPOILER:
I see what you're saying, though the humans who chose freedom at the end of III, no doubt would want more, and that is where they could free the new baby humans who grow up and again would become aware and unwilling to be controlled by robots, since the cycle continues. Then start a new war to re-infest humans all over the earth like a plague (according to Agent Smith anyway).

I'd say most fans who didn't like part II and III were probably expecting more brilliant revelations as the first film offered, but when that didn't happen and it was just an extension of the ideas already given in part I, they wrote the sequels off partly because of that.

Originally Posted by mar3o

This brings up a good point. People are quick these days to dismiss a film entirely, based on a single complaint or a weak aspect of the film. Granted, a weak plot is certainly a pretty big hurdle for a film to overcome, but can't people appreciate a film for what it does have to offer? Films are a combination of lots of elements - cinematography, lighting, visual effects, acting, story...most critics are saying this film should be skipped - yet those same critics are saying the effects and action scenes are amazing. So then can't people just appreciate the film on a visual level? Films are meant to get a response out of people and create an emotion. Why can't a film do that based on its visuals alone? I think any fan of sci-fi action or visual effects would be missing out if they skipped this. I read tons of bad reviews for the Total Recall remake, and while the film wasn't as good as the original (imo), the effects were stunning, and the world it created was worth the price of admission. Sadly, I skipped that one based on the reviews. I regretted skipping it once I saw it on blu-ray.

Come to think of it, Cloud Atlas and Speed Racer both got terrible reviews also, and both of those were also visually stunning, and I regret missing those in the theatre. Cloud Atlas had some interesting concepts, and Speed Racer was just a ton of fun.

Well said, Mar3o!

Movies are mostly for entertainment first, so if they entertain, then mission accomplished, as long as the audience knows what it's getting into when going to see a movie based on a trailer.
Expectations can often get in the way of enjoying a movie, so best to go in with low expectations and try to have fun with what's offered if a fan of the genre, as time is short enough and a 2 hour movie is 2 hours of life gone. I know I've gone in with certain expectations based on trailers, only to be very disappointed it wasn't the movie the trailer was suggesting it to be.

Some big plot holes, character inconsistencies or story oversights can be very distracting though, so I can understand why it may upset some and take them out of the movie. At the same time, certain things can still be enjoyed despite the flaws.
Kind of like when a great movie up to that point has a bad ending. Most people can't get the bad ending out of their head, and write off the whole movie as a result. If given a choice, a person wouldn't write off a good life if at the end they died of a heart attack, would they? The ending doesn't always have to be good for it to be a good story.

Making a movie is no easy task, but it still has to entertain its target audience as best as it can in writing, imagery, sound, acting, etc for the genre it's in and the film's intentions. As critics of movies, it's important to offer what could have been done better and why beyond just saying it wasn't good, and hope for improvements from the filmmakers involved and others learning from it.


On topic, I will hopefully see this movie by the weekend. The trailers look promising, though I'll go in with low expectations and hope for the best.

[film11]

I actually think that SPEED RACER would be a better 3D movie than the Matrix flicks.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I'd say most fans who didn't like part II and III were probably expecting more brilliant revelations as the first film offered, but when that didn't happen and it was just an extension of the ideas already given in part I, they wrote the sequels off partly because of that.

True most fans however ignore how they are able to get Neo out of the matrix in the first film though. The film makers already new what they wanted to do it seems and the ease at which they get him safely suggests the machines let him and others out and always have. It's those that know something is wrong but are never contacted by those outside the matrix that things have changed for.

I'm sure a sequel could be great, I would just prefer to see them tackle new stories especially as that is what seems to interest them. Now a prequel of the war starting out could be good. It would have to be R rated though and I do think it would pale compared to what animatrix showed.

[Jay Ellis]

I enjoyed Jupiter Ascending just like I enjoyed Seventh Son, both critical and box office bombs. Critics and mainstream opinion be damned , I see the movies I want to see irrespective of ratings. Jupiter Ascending has incredible action scenes coupled with beautiful 3d effects. The movie is really a sight to behold and major props should go to the visual effects artists. Chalk up yet another 3d blu-ray release I'm excited for to add alongside Seventh Son, Exodus and Five Armies. Life is good for 3d fans in 2015!

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

True most fans however ignore how they are able to get Neo out of the matrix in the first film though. The film makers already new what they wanted to do it seems and the ease at which they get him safely suggests the machines let him and others out and always have. It's those that know something is wrong but are never contacted by those outside the matrix that things have changed for.

I'm sure a sequel could be great, I would just prefer to see them tackle new stories especially as that is what seems to interest them. Now a prequel of the war starting out could be good. It would have to be R rated though and I do think it would pale compared to what animatrix showed.

If they lower their budgets to 50$ or less, they could still make a cool sci fi styled action movie, and do a lot better at the box office with a new concept. While I'd like to see more Matrix stories told, I wonder if mainstream US audiences would be on board or dismiss the idea. Thankfully the world market is where most money is made today for many US films, thanks to movie audiences in other Countries.

[levcore]

Itching to see this but my local cinema showing times are not convenient this week at all with work and everything. Obviously they will have some better times next week.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by levcore

Itching to see this but my local cinema showing times are not convenient this week at all with work and everything. Obviously they will have some better times next week.

Wish I could choose the "next week" scenario with a 3D showing convenience. My area can go to a 2D only at a moments notice, then I'm out of luck.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Paul H

Wish I could choose the "next week" scenario with a 3D showing convenience. My area can go to a 2D only at a moments notice, then I'm out of luck.

Honestly it's the same for me, i'll probably not get to see it in 3D now.

[Interdimensional]

What a sprawling mess of a film, and I have to say it kept me engaged and I enjoyed almost every minute of it. It's full of staggering visuals, interesting concepts and missed potential. Sections of the movie didn't quite work for me, particularly early on in the picture, but at a certain point it opened out and became a lot more intriguing.

The 3D isn't the best I've seen, but it certainly enhanced the presentation and added to the entertainment value. The costumes and the designs and the visuals were more than worth the price of admission.

I think I wanna go again.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

The thing that interests me the most about Jupiter Ascending is Eddie Redmayne as the villain. A very under rated actor.

Yes he's so underrated he won the Golden Globe for Best Actor and is front runner for the Oscar in the same category....

[Zivouhr]

Just saw Jupiter Ascending 3D.
The 3D in Jupiter Ascending was very good, medium 3D most of the way. A couple brief strong 3D shots, but no complaints from me. The 3D was worth it.

SPOILERS:
Jupiter Ascending was not as bad as I was imagining, and it got a number of things right; the action was pretty solid and plentiful, the special effects looked good, and the concept of the movie was interesting;

[Show spoiler]harvesting humans to prolong life. I liked the movie.
Milas Kunis did a decent job with her role for her subdued acting style. Channing Tatum was cool with his shield and gun, though the air skates took getting used to (sort of silly looking compared to a Jet Pack), as effective as they are.
Sean Bean always brings a solid performance, so I was glad to see him have a decent sized role.
While I would have liked to have seen more examples of the consequences of people being harvested for their essence in an effort to prolong the lives of those in power (Dark Crystal) to drive the impact of this home, the point when Jupiter has to save her family did a nice job of putting someone she cared about in jeopardy and not just some random humans she didn't know. That gave her purpose to stop this more meaning to her character, and to the audience.

The exposition of trying to explain every little detail of who is who and what makes things work wasn't always necessary and actually bogged the movie down, making it one you had to pay attention to every line to keep track of what was happening. The key plot of harvesting humans' essence into bottles and how that kept them alive for thousands of years was the driver to the plot, and why Jupiter was the key to stopping the rich bad guys with help from Tatum.

The scene prior to where she's talking about the wait at the DMV could have been cut and gotten right to the payoff of her getting her glowing tattoo status symbol. That would have helped, as that sequence seemed out of place. I can imagine it was left in for humor purposes, but took me out of the flow of the story, thinking "What is all this about?"

While it would have been a good idea to cut the scenes that didn't propel the story forward for the sake of pacing, Jupiter Ascending kept my attention most of the way, and the more exciting ending pulled me back in. The 3D was nicely done and the movie was decent, with some very good sci fi concepts and good action.

[mar3o]

Thanks to snow this weekend I'll be missing out for a second week. That means quite possibly I'll miss out on this in theatres. Very sad. I have tickets, too - I just need to pay the difference for the 3D price.

[mar3o]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Just saw Jupiter Ascending 3D.
The 3D in Jupiter Ascending was very good, medium 3D most of the way. A couple brief strong 3D shots, but no complaints from me. The 3D was worth it.

SPOILERS:
Jupiter Ascending was not as bad as I was imagining, and it got a number of things right; the action was pretty solid and plentiful, the special effects looked good, and the concept of the movie was interesting; harvesting humans to prolong life. I liked the movie.
Milas Kunis did a decent job with her role for her subdued acting style. Channing Tatum was cool with his shield and gun, though the air skates took getting used to (sort of silly looking compared to a Jet Pack), as effective as they are.
Sean Bean always brings a solid performance, so I was glad to see him have a decent sized role.
While I would have liked to have seen more examples of the consequences of people being harvested for their essence in an effort to prolong the lives of those in power (Dark Crystal) to drive the impact of this home, the point when Jupiter has to save her family did a nice job of putting someone she cared about in jeopardy and not just some random humans she didn't know. That gave her purpose to stop this more meaning to her character, and to the audience.

The exposition of trying to explain every little detail of who is who and what makes things work wasn't always necessary and actually bogged the movie down, making it one you had to pay attention to every line to keep track of what was happening. The key plot of harvesting humans' essence into bottles and how that kept them alive for thousands of years was the driver to the plot, and why Jupiter was the key to stopping the rich bad guys with help from Tatum.

The scene prior to where she's talking about the wait at the DMV could have been cut and gotten right to the payoff of her getting her glowing tattoo status symbol. That would have helped, as that sequence seemed out of place. I can imagine it was left in for humor purposes, but took me out of the flow of the story, thinking "What is all this about?"

While it would have been a good idea to cut the scenes that didn't propel the story forward for the sake of pacing, Jupiter Ascending kept my attention most of the way, and the more exciting ending pulled me back in. The 3D was nicely done and the movie was decent, with some very good sci fi concepts and good action.

I think some spoiler tags are needed here.

[DB5]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I think some spoiler tags are needed here.

Well it did say spoiler in capitals, which was the point at where I stopped reading.
I'm going to wait another week before I go and see it, hopefully it won't be to busy then.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I think some spoiler tags are needed here.

I second that, if your going to mention spoiler put them in the tags. That way their is not chance anyone could as they scroll down miss the warning.

[Zivouhr]

Spoiler tags have been added after the word Spoiler, thanks.

Favorite 3D action scenes in this:
Probably every scene where Caine is deflecting and blasting enemies while constantly on the move with his air skates. The airship battle scenes were cool too.