List of Fullscreen 16:9 1.66-1.85 Blu-rays - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Deciazulado · 06-05-2007, 11:33 PM

99.99% of movies filmed before about the mid fifties will have black bars at the sides.

Any film done in CinemaScope or Panavision or 70mm or Technirama will have black bars above and below. Most Super-35 films (most are made for 2.39 presentation) will have bars above and below also.

What I do is check Leonard Maltin's guide and see if the post mid fifties film says "CinemaScope" or "Super-35" etc. If it doesn't it probably will be "full screen" on a 16:9

You can of course check specs or imdb or other sources too.

millerm · 06-06-2007, 08:38 PM

I took Simplepinoi77's list down to the local Best Buy and found that all but a few titles are now 1.85 to 2.40 (mostly 2.35 and 2.40) The only 1.78:1 media I found were television series titles and animated flicks (like Sopranos and Rescue Me). Since movies are filmed in only one aspect ratio (correct me if I'm wrong) - does anyone know what accounts for this change? Are there other retailers where we can find the 1.78:1 ?

I hope this is not a trend toward the higher numbered aspect ratio

simplepinoi177 · 06-06-2007, 10:11 PM

To (((LEWIS))), thanks for that catch...and I think you're right, alphabetizing seems easier and better...glad it helped you and all the others that found my list worthwhile...makes me glad to know that it's not just me and that there are a few others who see it like I do...

Millerm, I'm happy you actually took my list and checked em out and it's interesting what you came across...

Everyone, please remember that the specs/aspect ratios of some of these movies are not from actual people posting up their first hand accounts but are from imdb or amazon.com and, as I previously stated, many of them say 1.78:1 at one place but another spec at another place. Also, it could be that even though a movie is a different aspect ratio natively, it ends up displaying at a 16:9 fullscreen. Don't ask me how or the rhyme or reason because I do not know anything about this stuff, it just seems to be the case with some movies. That's why I take the posts from people who've actually seen the full screen blu rays concretely.

Thanks to everyone else that contributed to the thread! Hopefully more movies are posted up to be added to the list or even made in a 1.78:1 AR. Thanks again and keep 'em comin!

Deciazulado · 06-07-2007, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepinoi177

Also, it could be that even though a movie is a different aspect ratio natively, it ends up displaying at a 16:9 fullscreen. Don't ask me how or the rhyme or reason because I do not know anything about this stuff, it just seems to be the case with some movies.

That's probably because of overscan. Some (most?) tvs overscan the image a little. So a 1.85 movie will look like 1.78 on a tv that ovescans (zooms the image a little) 4% or more. 1.66-> 1.78 with a little less than 7% or more.

baccusboy · 06-07-2007, 02:01 AM

I wish they did more movies like Hellboy, and filled up the entire screen.

I love it.

STEELCHEST · 06-07-2007, 02:13 AM

good thread, i don't really like the full screen version best, i like the black bars cause it looks more like a movie.

BStecke · 06-07-2007, 05:58 AM

Just a couple of comments . . . movies are not filmed in only one aspect ratio, as someone said above. 1.85 and 2.35 are common aspect ratios, with 2.35 commonly known as "Super 35" or "Scope." 2.4:1 seems to be becoming more common as well.

phranctoast · 06-07-2007, 03:33 PM

we shoud keep this thread away from the preferences of certain people with 1:85 and 2:40.

Ive seen these threads get mean with people going off on other people preferences for not enjoying the movie at the OAR.

lets keep it nice.

Deciazulado · 06-08-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phranctoast

we shoud keep this thread away from the preferences of certain people with 1:85 and 2:40

I agree. This thread's topic is list of Blu-rays that fill a 16:9 display's screen.
Some posts split to a (never ending battle of the) ratios thread

simplepinoi177 · 06-08-2007, 01:42 AM

OMG I can't believe this thread has been split to a debate thread. LOL! The SAME EXACT THING happened up at my native forum ps3forums.com blu ray movie thread...(resulted in a debate instead of a compilation list of blu rays)

It's really funny because as a noob to all this OAR aspect ratio stuff, I simply just wanted to compile a list of blu ray dvds that fill up the whole screen because there exists no list or way of searching and filtering out fullscreen 1:78-1:85.1 AR movies. Never was interested in a debate and never thought that this would grow to such that it would pave the way for debates for/against blackbars/nonblackbars. Humorously not my intention as I still simply want to make a list of fullscreen blurays for people such as myself and the few others who were specifically looking for a list as I. I'm just expressing my surprise and humor at that it split to another post. But I think Deciazulado and phranctoast is right because I've seen it at the other thread I created. I've seen it first hand that

Quote:

Originally Posted by phranctoast

Ive seen these threads get mean with people going off on other people preferences for not enjoying the movie at the OAR.

Thanks for the move/split Deciazulado.

Back on track, please if you concretely know of a blu ray that displays as fullscreen or 1.78:1 or see a movie on the list that is not, please post up!

Deciazulado · 06-08-2007, 05:46 PM

mm you can add Dinosaur, music and lyrics, and Closer to the 16:9 "fullframe" list (haven't checked the last two but their covers say 1.85)

I think Lord Of War is in Scope on Blu-ray tho (while the DVD was recomposited to 1.85) (I remember somene being happy that the BD was in OAR) ( I have it but haven't gotten 'round t'it) ()

simplepinoi177 · 06-11-2007, 03:37 AM

Anyone else seen full scope/screen blu rays that aren't on the list? Or heard of any coming out?

Also, feel free to correct if a movie on the list shouldn't be on. Thanks in advanced!

haiku_aubade · 06-11-2007, 03:53 AM

can someone please give me a breakdown on the aspect ratios?

which one fills the screen and which doesn't?

simplepinoi177 · 06-11-2007, 04:12 AM

haiku_aubade, from what I understand (when I started this kinds of threads I was a total noob), and it's not much, aspect ratios between as low as 1.66:1 to 1.85:1 (depending on your HDTV) will/should display on all of your HDTV or fill it up completely. Anything higher than 1.85:1 (more natively 2.35:1) and you will have those black bars on the top and bottom of your screen (widescreen display). The best display for a fullscreen/scope filling up your screen aspect ratior is 1.78:1. Hope this answers your question. You should check out the stickies on OAR and "black bars" and such.

Anyways, if anyone can contribute to the list, it would be greately welcomed! Thanks in advanced!

haiku_aubade · 06-11-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepinoi177

Anything higher than 1.85:1 (more natively 2.35:1) and you will have those black bars on the top and bottom of your screen (widescreen display). The best display for a fullscreen/scope filling up your screen aspect ratior is 1.78:1. Hope this answers your question. You should check out the stickies on OAR and "black bars" and such.

Anyways, if anyone can contribute to the list, it would be greately welcomed! Thanks in advanced!

Thank you so much for explaining that to me... it was great info... I'll be sure to check out the other threads about OAR and aspect ratios

i'll check my Blu movies and contribute to the list if they haven't been posted yet.

cheers

blackpixels · 06-11-2007, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepinoi177

OMG I can't believe this thread has been split to a debate thread. LOL! The SAME EXACT THING happened up at my native forum ps3forums.com blu ray movie thread...(resulted in a debate instead of a compilation list of blu rays)

It's really funny because as a noob to all this OAR aspect ratio stuff, I simply just wanted to compile a list of blu ray dvds that fill up the whole screen because there exists no list or way of searching and filtering out fullscreen 1:78-1:85.1 AR movies. Never was interested in a debate and never thought that this would grow to such that it would pave the way for debates for/against blackbars/nonblackbars. Humorously not my intention as I still simply want to make a list of fullscreen blurays for people such as myself and the few others who were specifically looking for a list as I. I'm just expressing my surprise and humor at that it split to another post. But I think Deciazulado and phranctoast is right because I've seen it at the other thread I created. I've seen it first hand that
Thanks for the move/split Deciazulado.

Back on track, please if you concretely know of a blu ray that displays as fullscreen or 1.78:1 or see a movie on the list that is not, please post up!

Totally agree. I thinks it's when people start adding preferences and attempt to educate others that you run into tangents. Lets keep is simple. Additionally, there are some wording issues. "fullscreen" for this threads application - correct me if I'm wrong, but we're not looking for "fullscreen" as in two seperate formats per say, just movies that fill the entire screen, that are still "widescreen" formats regardless of aspect ratio. I think this term can be sometimes misconstrued and over anylized. We're simply talking about the movies that fill a 16x9 screen completely that's all, no more. Keep the list going!!

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simplepinoi177 · 06-11-2007, 11:13 PM

Glad I could help haiku_aubade!

blackpixels, i totally agree with you and I'm glad you see it that way. I do mean widescreen that would fill up a 16x9 display. I think you're right as to that probably being the source of the misunderstanding. But what kind of word/wording am I looking for then? "movies regardless of widescreen or fullscreen that fill up a 16x9 display?" that's too much words....

dmxoneiuv · 06-14-2007, 07:14 AM

these titles can be added to the list (all owned and confirmed)

Coming To America
Full Metal Jacket
The Fugitive

simplepinoi177 · 06-14-2007, 08:44 AM

THANX dmxoneiuv!!! It is greatly appreciated!

Anyone else? Keep 'em comin!!!

baccusboy · 06-17-2007, 12:42 PM

Add GOTHIKA to this list. I am watching it right now (just bought it in Seoul).

No black bars!

06-06-2007, 08:38 PM	#22
millerm New Member Member since:Jun 2007	Aspect Ratio Shift I took Simplepinoi77's list down to the local Best Buy and found that all but a few titles are now 1.85 to 2.40 (mostly 2.35 and 2.40) The only 1.78:1 media I found were television series titles and animated flicks (like Sopranos and Rescue Me). Since movies are filmed in only one aspect ratio (correct me if I'm wrong) - does anyone know what accounts for this change? Are there other retailers where we can find the 1.78:1 ? I hope this is not a trend toward the higher numbered aspect ratio

06-07-2007, 05:58 AM	#27
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Just a couple of comments . . . movies are not filmed in only one aspect ratio, as someone said above. 1.85 and 2.35 are common aspect ratios, with 2.35 commonly known as "Super 35" or "Scope." 2.4:1 seems to be becoming more common as well. Last edited by Deciazulado; 06-08-2007 at 12:09 AM. Reason: see full text on newly split thread

06-08-2007, 05:46 PM	#31
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1161 Blu-ray collection:7052 DVD collection:4062	mm you can add Dinosaur, music and lyrics, and Closer to the 16:9 "fullframe" list (haven't checked the last two but their covers say 1.85) I think Lord Of War is in Scope on Blu-ray tho (while the DVD was recomposited to 1.85) (I remember somene being happy that the BD was in OAR) ( I have it but haven't gotten 'round t'it) () Last edited by Deciazulado; 06-08-2007 at 05:54 PM.

06-14-2007, 07:14 AM	#38
dmxoneiuv Active Member Member since:May 2007 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:465 DVD collection:21 Trading Score:20	another few these titles can be added to the list (all owned and confirmed) Coming To America Full Metal Jacket The Fugitive

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06-05-2007, 11:33 PM	#21
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1161 Blu-ray collection:7052 DVD collection:4062	99.99% of movies filmed before about the mid fifties will have black bars at the sides. Any film done in CinemaScope or Panavision or 70mm or Technirama will have black bars above and below. Most Super-35 films (most are made for 2.39 presentation) will have bars above and below also. What I do is check Leonard Maltin's guide and see if the post mid fifties film says "CinemaScope" or "Super-35" etc. If it doesn't it probably will be "full screen" on a 16:9 You can of course check specs or imdb or other sources too.

06-06-2007, 10:11 PM	#23
simplepinoi177 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bay Area, CA	To (((LEWIS))), thanks for that catch...and I think you're right, alphabetizing seems easier and better...glad it helped you and all the others that found my list worthwhile...makes me glad to know that it's not just me and that there are a few others who see it like I do... Millerm, I'm happy you actually took my list and checked em out and it's interesting what you came across... Everyone, please remember that the specs/aspect ratios of some of these movies are not from actual people posting up their first hand accounts but are from imdb or amazon.com and, as I previously stated, many of them say 1.78:1 at one place but another spec at another place. Also, it could be that even though a movie is a different aspect ratio natively, it ends up displaying at a 16:9 fullscreen. Don't ask me how or the rhyme or reason because I do not know anything about this stuff, it just seems to be the case with some movies. That's why I take the posts from people who've actually seen the full screen blu rays concretely. Thanks to everyone else that contributed to the thread! Hopefully more movies are posted up to be added to the list or even made in a 1.78:1 AR. Thanks again and keep 'em comin!

06-07-2007, 02:01 AM	#25
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	I wish they did more movies like Hellboy, and filled up the entire screen. I love it.

06-07-2007, 02:13 AM	#26
STEELCHEST Member Member since:Jan 2007	good thread, i don't really like the full screen version best, i like the black bars cause it looks more like a movie.

06-07-2007, 03:33 PM	#28
phranctoast Power Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Long Island, NY;psn:phranctoast Blu-ray collection:78	we shoud keep this thread away from the preferences of certain people with 1:85 and 2:40. Ive seen these threads get mean with people going off on other people preferences for not enjoying the movie at the OAR. lets keep it nice.

06-11-2007, 03:37 AM	#32
simplepinoi177 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bay Area, CA	Anyone else seen full scope/screen blu rays that aren't on the list? Or heard of any coming out? Also, feel free to correct if a movie on the list shouldn't be on. Thanks in advanced!

06-11-2007, 03:53 AM	#33
haiku_aubade Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:alpha centauri	can someone please give me a breakdown on the aspect ratios? which one fills the screen and which doesn't?

06-11-2007, 04:12 AM	#34
simplepinoi177 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bay Area, CA	haiku_aubade, from what I understand (when I started this kinds of threads I was a total noob), and it's not much, aspect ratios between as low as 1.66:1 to 1.85:1 (depending on your HDTV) will/should display on all of your HDTV or fill it up completely. Anything higher than 1.85:1 (more natively 2.35:1) and you will have those black bars on the top and bottom of your screen (widescreen display). The best display for a fullscreen/scope filling up your screen aspect ratior is 1.78:1. Hope this answers your question. You should check out the stickies on OAR and "black bars" and such. Anyways, if anyone can contribute to the list, it would be greately welcomed! Thanks in advanced!

06-11-2007, 11:13 PM	#37
simplepinoi177 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bay Area, CA	Glad I could help haiku_aubade! blackpixels, i totally agree with you and I'm glad you see it that way. I do mean widescreen that would fill up a 16x9 display. I think you're right as to that probably being the source of the misunderstanding. But what kind of word/wording am I looking for then? "movies regardless of widescreen or fullscreen that fill up a 16x9 display?" that's too much words....

06-14-2007, 08:44 AM	#39
simplepinoi177 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bay Area, CA	THANX dmxoneiuv!!! It is greatly appreciated! Anyone else? Keep 'em comin!!!

06-17-2007, 12:42 PM	#40
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	Add GOTHIKA to this list. I am watching it right now (just bought it in Seoul). No black bars!

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