How do they do it? - Blu-ray Forum

blueraycouch · 09-08-2008, 03:19 AM

Not sure if this is the right forum to post this but here it goes.
I already know that Lucas has no plan on putting any of the Star Wars movie in BD. I just came back from a friends house and watched Star Wars: A New Hope on Spike HD. The movie was so clear. How do they convert a movie that isn't in HD and broadcast it in HD? Do they have a standard platform to convert regular movies to BD? I have seen movies in BD that wasn't so great which is one reason on holding up on buying certain movies in BD and a reason to join this site.

mrgreed202 · 09-08-2008, 03:26 AM

well, in your case, if it was THAT clear, than they have prob already transfered it to BD picture quality, but havent released it. But because i doubt all of that they may have just used a upconverter to broadcast it.

raven1138 · 09-08-2008, 03:27 AM

I know I'm off topic,, but who says star wars is never coming to blu?

quexos · 09-08-2008, 03:28 AM

I think they have an HD transfer made for that broadcast. Upconverting would take too much time.

mrgreed202 · 09-08-2008, 03:28 AM

well i mean they could of just played it from an upconverting dvd player, or BD player and broadcasted it. not entirely convert it.

bartlettphoto · 09-08-2008, 03:46 AM

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=1169
It's a start, just give it time.

newguy7 · 09-08-2008, 02:26 PM

I thought ALL movies are originally in "HD" but are down-converted for TV, DVD etc. I thought they even down-converted for Blu Ray since the resolution of film is WAAAY higher.

brettallica · 01-04-2009, 08:06 PM

Thread revival time.

I'm really curious about the original poster's question. I have one of the Star Wars movies saved to my DVR, and it looks and sounds amazing -- definitely better than any Star Wars I've watched on DVD. Surely that leads us to believe that the ownership of physical copies in Blu-ray is at least on the horizon. You know they have these done already but are holding out on us for whatever reason.

Galley · 01-04-2009, 11:27 PM

Film is higher resolution than even BD; something like 4K.

STARSCREAM · 01-04-2009, 11:32 PM

I'm watching Episode 2 right now on Spike HD and it looks awesome!!! Stunning really. Episode 3 is up next!

brett_day · 01-04-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

I'm watching Episode 2 right now on Spike HD and it looks awesome!!! Stunning really. Episode 3 is up next!

holy crap!!! that does look good!

STARSCREAM · 01-05-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

holy crap!!! that does look good!

Yeah, they need these out on Blu-ray nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!

Afrobean · 01-05-2009, 05:53 AM

Channels don't own commercial DVDs or BDs when they play a movie. They get the video directly from the source, and it is clear that Star Wars was transferred in HD at some point in the past, and even though this transfer has yet to see a home release in HD (same transfer might have been made when the last transfer for DVD was made), they give the HD version out to channels to air in HD.

And folks, the BDs will come with time. There are plenty of catalog titles that the studios are sitting on, and Lucas clearly wants to sit on this a while longer before putting it out there. I believe he's focused on reworking the films into 3D, so maybe we'll see a BD release once that is done.

Colglizity · 01-05-2009, 06:21 AM

Yeah, remember about 6 months ago, Cinemax or HBO did a special deal where all day they played all 6 films in HD...

Clark Kent · 01-05-2009, 11:12 PM

At some point Lucas has created a HD master and transfer for all of the Star Wars films. They are then distributed to channels such as HBO to broadcast. This is no indication that a Blu-ray is coming anytime soon. A real Blu-ray release would entail a completely new and even better transfer than what we are seeing in the broadcast HD versions.

Septimus Prime · 01-05-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galley

Film is higher resolution than even BD; something like 4K.

While you are correct on the first part, more or less, you're a bit off. The first 4K movie was Spider-Man 2, and all digital movies previous to that (aside from IMAX) were 2K, which is still higher resolution than 1080p.

Older films are shot on actual film, which doesn't actually have resolution, per se. 35mm film "resolution," nevertheless, is "higher" than 1080p too, and conversion studios digitally scan it at higher resolutions than 1080p.

So, yes, HD movies are all downscaled for playback on TV.

09-08-2008, 03:19 AM	#1
blueraycouch Junior Member Member since:Jun 2008	How do they do it? Not sure if this is the right forum to post this but here it goes. I already know that Lucas has no plan on putting any of the Star Wars movie in BD. I just came back from a friends house and watched Star Wars: A New Hope on Spike HD. The movie was so clear. How do they convert a movie that isn't in HD and broadcast it in HD? Do they have a standard platform to convert regular movies to BD? I have seen movies in BD that wasn't so great which is one reason on holding up on buying certain movies in BD and a reason to join this site.

09-08-2008, 03:26 AM	#2
mrgreed202 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:138	well, in your case, if it was THAT clear, than they have prob already transfered it to BD picture quality, but havent released it. But because i doubt all of that they may have just used a upconverter to broadcast it.

09-08-2008, 03:27 AM	#3
raven1138 Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Carlsbad, CA Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:494 Blu-ray reviews:2	I know I'm off topic,, but who says star wars is never coming to blu?

09-08-2008, 03:28 AM	#4
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	I think they have an HD transfer made for that broadcast. Upconverting would take too much time.

09-08-2008, 03:46 AM	#6
bartlettphoto Active Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Richmond, VA Trading Score:1	https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=1169 It's a start, just give it time.

09-08-2008, 02:26 PM	#7
newguy7 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:116	I thought ALL movies are originally in "HD" but are down-converted for TV, DVD etc. I thought they even down-converted for Blu Ray since the resolution of film is WAAAY higher.

01-04-2009, 08:06 PM	#8
brettallica Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Santa Cruz, California Home Theater Gallery:51 Blu-ray collection:79 Trading Score:6	Thread revival time. I'm really curious about the original poster's question. I have one of the Star Wars movies saved to my DVR, and it looks and sounds amazing -- definitely better than any Star Wars I've watched on DVD. Surely that leads us to believe that the ownership of physical copies in Blu-ray is at least on the horizon. You *know* they have these done already but are holding out on us for whatever reason.

01-04-2009, 11:27 PM	#9
Galley Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Greenville, SC 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:634 DVD collection:41 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:7	Film is higher resolution than even BD; something like 4K.

01-04-2009, 11:32 PM	#10
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	I'm watching Episode 2 right now on Spike HD and it looks awesome!!! Stunning really. Episode 3 is up next!

01-05-2009, 05:53 AM	#13
Afrobean Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:-	Channels don't own commercial DVDs or BDs when they play a movie. They get the video directly from the source, and it is clear that Star Wars was transferred in HD at some point in the past, and even though this transfer has yet to see a home release in HD (same transfer might have been made when the last transfer for DVD was made), they give the HD version out to channels to air in HD. And folks, the BDs will come with time. There are plenty of catalog titles that the studios are sitting on, and Lucas clearly wants to sit on this a while longer before putting it out there. I believe he's focused on reworking the films into 3D, so maybe we'll see a BD release once that is done.

01-05-2009, 06:21 AM	#14
Colglizity Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Washington (360) Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3	Yeah, remember about 6 months ago, Cinemax or HBO did a special deal where all day they played all 6 films in HD...

01-05-2009, 11:12 PM	#15
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	At some point Lucas has created a HD master and transfer for all of the Star Wars films. They are then distributed to channels such as HBO to broadcast. This is no indication that a Blu-ray is coming anytime soon. A real Blu-ray release would entail a completely new and even better transfer than what we are seeing in the broadcast HD versions.

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