playback memory (resume play)

[El Negro]

When watching a BD movie with the PS3 and i turn it off then turn it back on at a later time, some movies will continue right where i left off including subtitles on while others don't. Example is Halloween which i havent seen in about a month but if i pop it in the PS3, it will continue with the ending credits where i last left off but if i start watching the Guardian, it will start off with menu even though i left off in the middle of the movie before turning off the PS3.

Does this depend on the movie or is there a way to have all movies continue where i last left off?

Just wondering because sometimes i don't remember which scene i last left off on and this would really help.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by El Negro

When watching a BD movie with the PS3 and i turn it off then turn it back on at a later time, some movies will continue right where i left off including subtitles on while others don't. Example is Halloween which i havent seen in about a month but if i pop it in the PS3, it will continue with the ending credits where i last left off but if i start watching the Guardian, it will start off with menu even though i left off in the middle of the movie before turning off the PS3.

Does this depend on the movie or is there a way to have all movies continue where i last left off?

Just wondering because sometimes i don't remember which scene i last left off on and this would really help.

some movies resume play real well on the ps3, but like Transformers for me
did not...it's all random

[un4gvn94538]

its not random. it has to do with bd-java. resume play dosnt work with blu ray discs with that technology

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

its not random. it has to do with bd-java. resume play dosnt work with blu ray discs with that technology

So, what BD's will have it in the future? How do they pick what Bd will and wont have this "issue."

Seems that if you can not name the BD's that will have it before they are announced, it is random.

[bajor27]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

So, what BD's will have it in the future? How do they pick what Bd will and wont have this "issue."

Seems that if you can not name the BD's that will have it before they are announced, it is random.

Just because we don't know before doesn't mean it's random. It's based on how they design the menu and special features and such. Some titles use Java as you can accomplish a lot more using it

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

So, what BD's will have it in the future? How do they pick what Bd will and wont have this "issue."

Seems that if you can not name the BD's that will have it before they are announced, it is random.

Chances are very high that the BD's which don't automatically resume upon loading will have the BD-Java applet installed so that you can bookmark the scene where you had to interrupt your viewing of the presentation. So, either way, you can easily jump back to where you left off.

[quexos]

Originally Posted by bajor27

Just because we don't know before doesn't mean it's random. It's based on how they design the menu and special features and such. Some titles use Java as you can accomplish a lot more using it

It may not be random from a technological point of view but from a practical one it is random since we don't really know which movie does what.
I want to say that personally I don't like this resume function. A movie is not a book that you need to resume where you left off. A movie is either watched entirely the first time or not entirely afterwards but in the latter case unless you are kind of studying parts of the movie, I don't see the point of watching days later a movie at some point in the middle as a story is watched from beginning to end. I'm always annoyed with that "resume" function, wish there was a way to turn it on and off so that we can all decide what we want but putting a Bluray in my PS3 and suddenly having the end credits popping on with the loud music sound is so unexpected and annoying at best IMO.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by quexos

A movie is either watched entirely the first time or not entirely afterwards but in the latter case unless you are kind of studying parts of the movie, I don't see the point of watching days later a movie at some point in the middle as a story is watched from beginning to end.

Not every movie is a work of art or that in-depth that I can't start later the next day without starting where I left off. I really like this feature. I have a baby and/or sometimes get tired and will watch the rest later. Sometimes, I stop a movie for a phone call. It would be annoying if I hit "stop" instead of "pause" and had to go back through the menu and forward just to get to where I left off.

I'm always annoyed with that "resume" function, wish there was a way to turn it on and off so that we can all decide what we want but putting a Bluray in my PS3 and suddenly having the end credits popping on with the loud music sound is so unexpected and annoying at best IMO.

All you have to do is hit the "top menu" button and you're there - for someone who is trying to restart the movie from where they left off, it is a much bigger hassle. I think having the "resume" function in there is the lesser of two evils. (And happens to be an "evil" that I enjoy having. )

[FF750]

You can generally tell if a movie will auto-resume by checking its icon in the XMB. If it just has a generic BD disc icon it will auto-resume while discs that have a thumbnail pic that pops up as an icon are generally BD-Java enabled and won't.

Also, IIRC there is an auto-resume toggle in the BD playback menu options on the system section of the XMB so for those who don't like it the feature can be turned off.

[philco_3]

I wish the feature worked all the time, especially when I'm trying to watch TV show season on Blu-ray.

[owa]

For a while, you could pretty much assume all Warner discs would resume since they were basically the only studio not using the advanced authoring techniques. At least some of theirs are now though. I'd guess that not many will resume in the future so hopefully they'll provide bookmark functionality or maybe they'll figure out how to resume BD-J discs. One of the guys here said he was working on that but that was a while ago so maybe that's a bad sign (he wasn't sure if he'd be able to do it or not).

Anyway, not having a resume really bugged me at first but now I've gotten so use to them not resuming, that it throws me off a little when they do resume (whether it is DVD or blu-ray). That is, my first thought is that something has gone wrong and then I realize it was just resuming from whenever I last played it.

Originally Posted by philco_3

I wish the feature worked all the time, especially when I'm trying to watch TV show season on Blu-ray.

Yeah, for TV shows they should try to do what the Lost (season 3) blu-ray does in that regard.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by FF750

You can generally tell if a movie will auto-resume by checking its icon in the XMB. If it just has a generic BD disc icon it will auto-resume while discs that have a thumbnail pic that pops up as an icon are generally BD-Java enabled and won't.

Also, IIRC there is an auto-resume toggle in the BD playback menu options on the system section of the XMB so for those who don't like it the feature can be turned off.

I'm afraid that you are mistaken there mate! You are probably thinking of the "Disc Auto-Start" feature that can be toggled. There is absolutely no choice when it comes to the "auto resume" feature on the PS3.

Originally Posted by quexos

I want to say that personally I don't like this resume function. A movie is not a book that you need to resume where you left off. A movie is either watched entirely the first time or not entirely afterwards but in the latter case unless you are kind of studying parts of the movie, I don't see the point of watching days later a movie at some point in the middle as a story is watched from beginning to end. I'm always annoyed with that "resume" function, wish there was a way to turn it on and off so that we can all decide what we want but putting a Bluray in my PS3 and suddenly having the end credits popping on with the loud music sound is so unexpected and annoying at best IMO.

Finally... someone that agrees with me on this point! I've tried to explain this exact opinion on several other occasions in this forum as casual conversation only to have people backlash with partially enflamed retorts as though I offended their religious beliefs. I also believe that humanity is getting far too comfortable with the insane pace that corporations have created for living one's daily life. People don't understand the concept of "stopping to smell the roses" anymore. Personally, if I know there is even a remote possibility that something important might come wandering into my day within the next 1.5 hours, I won't bother starting a movie. I'll play a casual game or maybe watch some extra features instead. The real movie experience is to watch it beginning to end without interruption. It's the only way to become fully invested in the characters and plot. Try visiting a live theatrical performance of a play and walk out at intermission. Then go back a week later for the second half. It just doesn't hold the same entertainment value when you divide the viewing experience with all sorts of outside influences. It, in fact, does the artistry a diservice!!!

[blu-backer]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Chances are very high that the BD's which don't automatically resume upon loading will have the BD-Java applet installed so that you can bookmark the scene where you had to interrupt your viewing of the presentation. So, either way, you can easily jump back to where you left off.

I must have been missing this all along. Where do you normally see/use the bookmark functionality for BD-Java equipped BDs? Just curious, because I sometimes want to stop a movie and resume where I left off and it would be nice to do this with BD-Java BDs as well.

TIA.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by blu-backer

I must have been missing this all along. Where do you normally see/use the bookmark functionality for BD-Java equipped BDs? Just curious, because I sometimes want to stop a movie and resume where I left off and it would be nice to do this with BD-Java BDs as well.

TIA.

I can't remember exactly because I never use it, but try pressing up on the controller. That should bring up a small interface at the bottom of the screen that shows a playback bar with bookmark options.

[Russell22]

I've had loads of trouble with the resume play on the PS3 too. It hardly ever works when i've tried it.I would say out of the discs ive tried,about 50% or so failed to resume. I hope Sony updates this on a firmware in the future.

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I'm afraid that you are mistaken there mate! You are probably thinking of the "Disc Auto-Start" feature that can be toggled. There is absolutely no choice when it comes to the "auto resume" feature on the PS3.

It's not called Auto Resume. When you have the PS3 set on Autoplay, a BD/DVD will automatically play at the last point you watched it - with the exception of BD-Java titles. To play this from the beginning again:

1) Put the disc in. If your PS3 is set to Autoplay, press stop when the disc plays.
2) At the disc icon in the XMB, press TRIANGLE.
3) Choose Play From The Start.

There is NO TOGGLE OR SETTING, just an OPTION.

Originally Posted by Russell22

I've had loads of trouble with the resume play on the PS3 too. It hardly ever works when i've tried it.I would say out of the discs ive tried,about 50% or so failed to resume. I hope Sony updates this on a firmware in the future.

Read the replies above you before you post.


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[LynxFX]

This is the biggest problem with BD-Java since in the future nearly every disc will contain it in some form and no matter how it is used, it will break the resume feature.

You would think that it would be simple for Sony or the disc authors to fix this problem by having the disc automatically create a 'bookmark' whenever a BD-Java disc is stopped which would allow resume if the user wants it. It isn't even a 1k file. I normally watch a film from start to finish but I've wished for the resume many times, for instance if in the dark you accidently hit the stop button instead of pause which just happened to me while watching Transformers this past week. I then had to restart the disc, go through all of the forced logos, then scene skip ahead to find my scene, then fast forward to the point which I was at. In other words, pain in the ass.

Speaking of Transformers, what is the point of having BD-Live to allow you to download a whopping 1mb of information, one feature of which allows you to change the menu skin (kinda cool) only to have it go back to the default when you stop the disc?

PQ and AQ are the most important feature to me, but if they want to razzle dazzle us with special features they have to do better than this.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

It's not called Auto Resume. When you have the PS3 set on Autoplay, a BD/DVD will automatically play at the last point you watched it - with the exception of BD-Java titles. To play this from the beginning again:

1) Put the disc in. If your PS3 is set to Autoplay, press stop when the disc plays.
2) At the disc icon in the XMB, press Square.
3) Choose Play From The Start.

There is NO TOGGLE OR SETTING, just an OPTION.

Read the replies above you before you post.


fuad

its actually triangle not square in case someone will try it

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by LynxFX

You would think that it would be simple for Sony or the disc authors to fix this problem by having the disc automatically create a 'bookmark' whenever a BD-Java disc is stopped which would allow resume if the user wants it. It isn't even a 1k file.

I don't know the intricacies of the BD-J but from what I've learned, it's not JUST about capturing a spot in the running time to resume from. It's capturing the STATE of playback - that is, Bonus Feature on/off, which audio tracks - which has to be implemented as a Bookmark BD-J code on top of the other whiz-bang stuff that they put on there. So if the Bookmark BD-J code is not there, you can't bookmark even though the title is a BD-J title.

SCE cannot fix this because it's not their responsibility to rewrite the BD-J specs; the PS3 must execute the code so if the Bookmark code is not there, it cannot create it out of firmware. It's up to the authors to fix it. However they may have their own problems over there. If say the BD-J uses 100MB to operate and they used that up without even coding the Bookmark code, well that's it then. I don't know how much memory BD-J can max out as its minimum requirement.

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

its actually triangle not square in case someone will try it

Ah, thanks for correcting me.


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[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

So, what BD's will have it in the future? How do they pick what Bd will and wont have this "issue."

Seems that if you can not name the BD's that will have it before they are announced, it is random.

if some transformer blu rays have bd-java and some transformers blu rays dont, then i would call that random