Independence Day Remastered Edition (Zavvi Exclusive) (Limited Edition) (UK)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by neoz

No worries, I know you didn't mean anything malicious by it. Zavvi won't give us a code because apparently they want a banner. I have asked for one but I know admin can be busy sometimes.

I would suggest we all spam them and tell them to give us a code like the other sites. I mean they do get enough sales from us right?

Just my opinion, but I'm fine on less codes if it means no banners.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by neoz

Yep looks like that is the reason it was removed. It is against the site rules to link to other sites that sell and or advertise.

So you are saying that is it fair for other sites to get our sales then? That is like if someone posted a affiliate link for our site at HDN. That isn't fair to HDN and I know they wouldn't do that to us.

Not that it's fair per se, just that is a shame that the code is deleted and people miss out on it because of that. Kind of a lose-lose situation.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

If I understand correctly, region locking can only be applied on the first release of a title and from that point on within a one year window, any repressing of that title one year after its initial Blu-ray release must be all regions coded.

That's not true. Studios can (and sometimes have to) lock a title for as long and as many versions as they like.

[CasuallyDressed]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Just my opinion, but I'm fine on less codes if it means no banners.

Just install AdBlock, then Neo can put as many banners up as he likes

[imsounoriginal]

Surprised this hasn't sold out yet, I thought this title would be popular enough to not last very long.

[CrockettandTubbs]

Originally Posted by CasuallyDressed

That code benefited HDN? Well god damn, I didn't know that.

Rest assured that it'll be the last time I post it.

That said, I've always had to use that link to make zavwel work. The code would never be accepted if I didn't.

The only time I've had that code was when I hadn't used them for ages and they sent me a "Welcome Back" email.

[Show spoiler]I was never away, I just couldn't be arsed to buy anything from them for a while

I used the code via your link in your now deleted post, so my bad as well, s'pose

[dreamer131313]

Can zavvi pre orders be canceled easily as long as it before release date?

cause i want this and went ahead and pre ordered but in case more info comes up saying the chances of it being region free i at least want to know it can be canceled if needed, since i dont have a region free player.

also just got a email saying less then 200 copies are left however accurate that is.

[Smigro]

Originally Posted by dreamer131313

Can zavvi pre orders be canceled easily as long as it before release date?

cause i want this and went ahead and pre ordered but in case more info comes up saying the chances of it being region free i at least want to know it can be canceled if needed, since i dont have a region free player.

also just got a email saying less then 200 copies are left however accurate that is.

As long as it is before it ships (which is normally a week prior to the actual release date) you should be good...I never had an issue and pre-order and cancel A LOT with Zavvi.

As for their 200 remaining email...it may be legit but a lot of people think it is just a ploy to push people to get a pre-order in.

[DangerClose]

Got the email, too. I am surprised! We will see soon.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Buddy Ackerman

That's not true. Studios can (and sometimes have to) lock a title for as long and as many versions as they like.

It is true, according to the Blu-ray Disc Association it is a global requirement that has to be enforced worldwide by every company wishing to use region coding. If they produce enough titles that they never need to repress the title, it will always have region coding...but if they replicate a title after that 12 month window they MUST remove RPC.

Please see Page 13 of the BDA's Content Participant Agreement:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Assets/Do...ense-16240.pdf

Obligations: Region coded media shall not be further replicated for such countries after the expiration of such period (12 months after such media was replicated for the first time).

It is the same for both 2D and 3D Content Participation Agreements:
https://www.blu-raydisc.info/license-app/cpa-app.php

[jimidini]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

if they replicate a title after that 12 month window they MUST remove RPC.

Wait

So if a studio does reprints of a blu-ray after 12 month of its initial release, they would have to remove the region code? Or am I reading this wrong?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Wait

So if a studio does reprints of a blu-ray after 12 month of its initial release, they would have to remove the region code? Or am I reading this wrong?

Yes, that is the global agreement they enter into when they sign up for a 5-year Blu-ray licence. They don't have to change the packaging as far as I know, but they are violating the CPA if they don't remove region coding.

I've sent off an e-mail to the BDA to see if they'll confirm whether this is only applicable for repressings of the exact same release and whether things like adding an extra cut of the movie, unique packaging or bonus content allows this stipulation to be worked around.

[midway007]

Now sold out!

[ghornett]

Too bad no Goldblum on the back

[jimidini]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yes, that is the global agreement they enter into when they sign up for a 5-year Blu-ray licence. They don't have to change the packaging as far as I know, but they are violating the CPA if they don't remove region coding.

I've sent off an e-mail to the BDA to see if they'll confirm whether this is only applicable for repressings of the exact same release and whether things like adding an extra cut of the movie, unique packaging or bonus content allows this stipulation to be worked around.

I have never seen such a situation once, so everyone is violating those agreements?

This actually even would make sense, when it's trying to stop people from importing while it's still in for example Europe's cinemas. It's like removing DRM from a PC game after 24 months or so. Why bother with it after that time anymore? Still how would it work out in case the rights holder didn't grant worldwide rights to a local distributor?

And how would this even work on blu-ray.com? It's not possible to enter multiple region code possibilities for one release.

Originally Posted by midway007

Now sold out!

"sold" "out"

I see you are new here

Zavvi steelbooks never sell out.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by ghornett

Too bad no Goldblum on the back

I'm actually okay with that artistic decision!

I've seen enough of him here:

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by midway007

Now sold out!

! At least, until people start cancelling their speculative orders.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by ghornett

Too bad no Goldblum on the back

Probably will be on the back of the sequel's Steelbook.

[ghornett]

Change the art, change the world

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by jimidini

"sold" "out"

I see you are new here

Zavvi steelbooks never sell out.

Well, that's not exactly true... they sometimes do. Rarely. Just enough that if there is one you really love you feel compelled to order it even though you know there's a ~95% chance it'll be around for ages and probably get reduced in price at some point. I'm still kicking myself over a couple I wish I'd bought before they did truly sell out.

Depending on how many steelbooks one buys it is arguably cheaper overall to have policy of never buying upon release, and just pay eBay prices for the odd one you want that does actually sell out, depending how you look at it.