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Old 04-22-2016, 03:52 PM   #101
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They are extremely more popular than Sherlock Holmes, which in comparison is a less-talked about franchise.
what are you talking about?

So, any movie not as popular as Harry Potter or Marvel, is not good? Lol
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Old 04-22-2016, 03:52 PM   #102
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Really? I don't see that at all.
Have you even seen these? They definitely aren't slow. Sherlock BBC is far slower, which I prefer.
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I really hope they get this filmed before RDJ has to do Infinity War. I've been waiting so long for this!
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Old 04-22-2016, 04:58 PM   #104
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Have you even seen these? They definitely aren't slow. Sherlock BBC is far slower, which I prefer.
I saw the first and it gave me no compelling reason to watch the second. I definitely found it very slow whereas the BBC Sherlock is more engrossing through the way they incorporate things like the Mind Palace.
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Unpopular opinion: Downey/Law > Cumberbatch/Freeman.

Bring it on. Love the first two.
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I saw the first and it gave me no compelling reason to watch the second. I definitely found it very slow whereas the BBC Sherlock is more engrossing through the way they incorporate things like the Mind Palace.
I am so done with Sherlock. I found it intriguing at first but now it comes across to me as some kind of hipster Sherlock Holmes. That Abominable Bride especially left a bitter taste in my mouth
[Show spoiler]with its stupid flipping back and forth between the present and the past.
I will say that Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman make a fantastic Holmes & Watson combo, but Andrew Scott is just annoying as Moriarty and not intimidating in the least. I didn't like RDJ's Holmes at first, but both films grew on me as they're both fun and fast paced and I like the traditional Victorian setting, particularly with the steampunk-esque touches.
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Old 04-23-2016, 04:50 AM   #106
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I thought Mr Holmes looked terrible. If I decide to see a Sherlock Holmes film, I don't want to see a retired Sherlock; I want to see Sherlock in his heyday trying to solve a case. Similarly with this Sherlock franchise, if I decide to see a Sherlock Holmes film I don't want to see a ridiculously slow pace with a mystery I don't care about, I want to be so immersed in the intrigue that I don't think 'Oh, this is slow'.
I thought the film was fascinating from stem to sterm, and Sir Ian just killed it in that movie. Sure, it isn't for everyone's taste...no movie is. If you have a few hours to kill, check it out one of these days on cable.
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Both films are great and can't wait for a third.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:45 PM   #108
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meh... sounds like more talk

would love to see a third... i'm surprised we aren't seeing a 4th or 5th by now!
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meh... sounds like more talk

would love to see a third... i'm surprised we aren't seeing a 4th or 5th by now!
Downey was *pissed* by the marketing and opening numbers for Shadows. Felt the studio just dropped the ball. And he wasn't quiet about it.
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Old 04-23-2016, 11:19 PM   #110
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Downey was *pissed* by the marketing and opening numbers for Shadows. Felt the studio just dropped the ball. And he wasn't quiet about it.
Yep. Which is why they've waited so long on this one. They don't want to upset him again. Can't really blame them, because this should be a big franchise for them, and WB REALLY needs them right now.

I do hope to eventually see this come to fruition, but I'm not going to hold my breath on it. We've had a lot of murmurs and false starts over the last few years, so I have a hard time buying into news any time it comes out. Here's hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
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Old 04-23-2016, 11:43 PM   #111
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Still haven't bothered with The Abominable Bride, and why the hell would I. Sherlock is now like The Matrix or Highlander to me. First was good; damn shame about the rest.
Don't. It's beyond awful.
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Old 04-23-2016, 11:51 PM   #112
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They are extremely more popular than Sherlock Holmes, which in comparison is a less-talked about franchise.
That means nothing. In fact, box-office means nothing when it comes to evaluating quality - it only measures consumer acceptance. It's like saying McDonald's is better than Nobu (or for a New York example, better than Peter Luger's) because it does more business. And IMO, today box-office means less than ever because of the short amount of time that films play in theaters. Since films do most of their business in the first weekend, people go to see the film before they hear whether it's any good or not. So a film with a lot of hype does great box-office in spite of the fact that it might be a lousy film.

Harry Potter is seemingly more popular because of its appeal to children.

My personal opinion about the Sherlock Holmes films with Downey (which also means nothing because you have no idea whether I'm an idiot or brilliant) is that they're fun films and they're beautifully shot, but they try to turn Holmes into a superhero, which is a far cry from the character that Doyle created. On the other hand, they do get into the psychology of the character and his resulting addiction as well as his sexual ambiguity in terms of his love for Watson.

For my money, I don't need any big action set pieces in a Holmes story. I just need a brilliantly creative and engaging mystery that Holmes solves with brilliant logic. But in today's movie environment, that will never happen. There has to be a lot of action to get the little boys (of any age) into the theater.
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Old 04-23-2016, 11:54 PM   #113
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Sometimes I don't think people realize these Sherlock Holmes films are actually more based on a graphic novel series than the Doyle books. The comics were more action adventures stories, and that's what WB went with. The BBC series is more like the novels. I'll take both adaptations, because they're both good at what they set out to do, and at the end of the day, that's allI care about.
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I still love Season 1 of Sherlock. It was genuinely clever as opposed to simply thinking it's clever and being too in love with itself to notice the difference, and the creators had yet to allow the ridiculous internet praise to go to their heads, which then disappeared far enough up their own asses to implode and create a black hole.

And in the final ten minutes of Season 1, Scott's Moriarty was still threatening despite his goofiness. He came across as genuinely scary, which the next season flushed down the toilet by making him into such a clown. (Nice job with the
[Show spoiler]suicide
in Season 2, though. I'm sure they'll ruin that about five minutes into Season 4.)

Still haven't bothered with The Abominable Bride, and why the hell would I. Sherlock is now like The Matrix or Highlander to me. First was good; damn shame about the rest.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. And based on your opinion of what the series has become then it's probably best you haven't seen Abominable Bride - it's all that stuff you said about its head being up its own ass... times ten.
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“Sherlock Holmes 3″ is beginning to move forward again in the development process, now that a new screenwriter has been assigned to the project.

According to Deadline, James Coyne has been hired by Warner Bros. to write the new script. Originally “Iron Man 3″ scribe Drew Pearce was supposed to write the “Sherlock Holmes 3″ draft, but Coyne will now take over the project.

While “Sherlock Holmes 3″ still doesn’t have a release date. Warner Bros. is confident the film will be moving forward with Robert Downey Jr., Jude Law, and Guy Ritchie all returning.

Both “Sherlock Holmes” and “Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows” grossed over $500,000 at the global box office.
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Old 04-26-2016, 01:15 AM   #116
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^ his IMDb page doesn't look very promising...
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Both films are great and can't wait for a third.
Agreed but as an actor portraying Sherlock Holmes, I prefer Benedict Cumberbatch. He comes off more as a cold person, not necessarily a sociopath (though I feel like BBC is portray him that way) he just doesn't let his emotions cloud his judgment. This is why I think Cumberbatch does a better job of portraying Sherlock.
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Agreed but as an actor portraying Sherlock Holmes, I prefer Benedict Cumberbatch. He comes off more as a cold person, not necessarily a sociopath (though I feel like BBC is portray him that way) he just doesn't let his emotions cloud his judgment. This is why I think Cumberbatch does a better job of portraying Sherlock.
Still the best actor in my opinion that played Sherlock Holmes was Jeremy Brett but i like what Cumberbatch and Freedman bring to the roles today.
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^ his IMDb page doesn't look very promising...
Agreed.
Makes you wonder how he landed the job...
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It seems that the rumoured third movie in Guy Ritchie’s Sherlock Holmes franchise is definitely happening.

Iron Man actor Robert Downey Jr., who plays Holmes in the movies, revealed last month that “we’ll attempt to make one this year.”

Producer Joel Silver has now confirmed plans start production on Sherlock Holmes 3 this October, Den of Geek reports.

Silver told Collider: “It looks like it could happen this fall. Downey said he wants to do it. He’s gotta launch into another Avengers movie, right after the New Year, so we’re trying to get it done.”

He added: “We have a script that we like. Jude [Law] is available and Downey is available, and we’re hoping we can get it done. If it works, great. If not, we’ll do it another time. But, it looks like it could happen now.”
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The producer also teased plans to continue the franchise with a fourth movie and beyond: “How many Bond films have they made? As long as there’s a character, we can work with it. [Sherlock Holmes 3 is] not an end story.”

Director Guy Ritchie is currently completing work on his new Knights Of The Roundtable: King Arthur movie, which stars Jude Law with Charlie Hunnam (Queer as Folk), Aidan Gillen (Game of Thrones).
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