Leaving money at the restaurant table ... fact or fiction ? - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

sk33tr · 03-23-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I usually pay for the meal with my card, but always leave a cash tip so the waitress/waiter doesn't get tax taken out of it. I'm all for lying about those tips.

this is generally what i do, as well.

one thing they have at the olive garden here, you can order and pay all from your table without anyone coming over. they have these electronic "menus" that will allow you to look through the entire menu, choose what you want, then pay at that time or at the end (like if you think you may want to order desert or drinks after dinner or something). it's pretty cool, but it does take something away from an actual person trying to do a job.

Scarriere · 03-23-2016, 02:20 PM

Yeah, ^ that is cool.

No, I don't leave the money at the table. The servers are on the hook if anything happens to it and I don't want to add any grief to their day. I'd imagine they get enough of that from classless customers.

sk33tr · 03-23-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarriere

Yeah, ^ that is cool.

No, I don't leave the money at the table. The servers are on the hook if anything happens to it and I don't want to add any grief to their day. I'd imagine they get enough of that from classless customers.

having that job for a couple years a (long) while back, i can tell you that is indeed the case.

Eternal Dreamer · 03-23-2016, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sk33tr

having that job for a couple years a (long) while back, i can tell you that is indeed the case.

Indeed. Everyone should have a stint in foodservice, retail, and / or customer service to realize just how badly those workers can be treated by customers.

D00mM4r1n3 · 05-05-2016, 06:13 PM

I prefer leaving a cash tip so the waiter knows immediately what I thought of their service. When I tip with a credit card I tend to just round up and give far more than 15%, usually 30-40%, regardless of service quality. I've left as little as $0.02 when I had to flag down a busboy to get a manager to have someone, anyone, come out to actually take my order and provide service. The waiter that did then went over by the entrance of the restaurant and talked about her scary sex life with a colleague, dropping constant expletives and gross details. On the other hand I've given a $100 tip on an $8 meal simply because the waiter was cheerful, fast and predicted my every need in advance.

Markgway · 05-05-2016, 07:05 PM

What % do people here leave as tip?

I go 10% (approx.).

Blu2u · 05-05-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

What % do people here leave as tip?

I go 10% (approx.).

The norm is 15, I usually do 20. 10 is cheap unless the service was lousy.

Markgway · 05-05-2016, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu2u

The norm is 15, I usually do 20. 10 is cheap unless the service was lousy.

The wage structure is different in the UK though. The waiters don't live on tips here. They have a steady income. Tips are just that. Friendly bonuses. You don't even have to leave one. I leave 10% because I'm a nice person.

C. Anton · 05-05-2016, 11:10 PM

We do it in East Texas regardless of the service, which does bring to mind Mr. Pink's rant from Reservoir Dogs. Still though, why not.

UK_fan_05 · 05-05-2016, 11:16 PM

I've been tempted to leave 0 before but then I start thinking that everyone has a bad day every once and awhile and give the person a break and tip 15% for bad service. That is the least I will go. I do however remember said person and while I can let one pass, two I won't.

Lacit170 · 05-06-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

What % do people here leave as tip?

I go 10% (approx.).

i usually leave 20% for standard service. a bit more for great service

however, if i go to dinner and get an expensive bottle of wine, i wont tip on the whole bottle. whether its 100$ bottle of wine or a 30$ bottle of wine, the service is the same, open bottle and pour.

im not adding an extra 20 bux to the tip just becuase the bottle is expensive. anyone else tip like that? i know people who wont tip on alcohol. others who tip based before taxes...

segagamer12 · 05-13-2016, 05:02 PM

When I lived in Nevada all the restaurants were having you pay the server they would take your money or card with your bill and bring you your change. In those instances I would leave the money on the table in the book with the bill. Otherwise I don't mind paying at the register but I leave the tip on the table always. If I don't have cash on me I don't eat out.
What I do hate is the tip jar where all the money goes into a pool and then everyone divides it up. That system is not fair for the lousy server to ride on the graces of the server busting their ass to give good service.
I never dock a tip, I don't figure my amounts based on percent, I tip $5 for any lunch, $8 for a dinner and if I am going to a nice restaurant it's probably for work and I am not paying anyways so I don't bother there. Even if I just have a $3 ham and cheese sandwich I am leaving a $5 tip.

mrr1 · 05-13-2016, 06:08 PM

Tipping is just a way for employers to download their responsibility for paying decent wages directly onto the shoulders of their customers.

I wish restaurants would eliminate tipping altogether, pay their employees better salaries, and just increase the cost of their menu items to make up for it. No tips required - we pay for what we agreed to at the start. Then we can do away with this awkward "tip" nonsense.

spectre08 · 05-13-2016, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mrr1

Tipping is just a way for employers to download their responsibility for paying decent wages directly onto the shoulders of their customers.

I wish restaurants would eliminate tipping altogether, pay their employees better salaries, and just increase the cost of their menu items to make up for it. No tips required - we pay for what we agreed to at the start. Then we can do away with this awkward "tip" nonsense.

the overwhelming majority of service employees would disagree with you hard.

There should be a balance though. Employers should pay a living wage to employees, even tipped employees, but that shouldn't mean tips should go away completely.

fatediesel · 05-13-2016, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mrr1

Tipping is just a way for employers to download their responsibility for paying decent wages directly onto the shoulders of their customers.

I wish restaurants would eliminate tipping altogether, pay their employees better salaries, and just increase the cost of their menu items to make up for it. No tips required - we pay for what we agreed to at the start. Then we can do away with this awkward "tip" nonsense.

Joe's Crab Shack tried eliminating tipping, raising prices and paying higher wages at 18 of their restaurants. Pretty much everyone hated it. Some servers quit because they weren't making as much as before. Customers didn't like the higher prices and the lack of incentive for the servers to do a good job and sales went down significantly. They've now lowered prices and gone back to a tipping structure in 14 of the 18 restaurants.

sk33tr · 05-13-2016, 08:31 PM

as far as a % to leave for a tip, i start at 20% when i sit down at the table. how the service goes dictates how much the tip goes up or down from there.

i won't leave less than 12%. and i have left over 20% on a few occasions when the server went above and beyond. as well, i let those know, who went above and beyond, that i really appreciated everything they did to make it a pleasant experience.

Mike16 · 05-13-2016, 10:47 PM

I'll leave 15-20% if the service is on par. I have never stiffed a waiter/waitress, as I worked in the food service industry for a few years out of high school, and was stiffed more times than I care to count for no reason whatsoever (I was always prompt with orders, polite and never rushed my customers). I still remember one customer leaving me a tip on a napkin that said "Get a real job!"

All that said, this thread has me thinking, how many of you that leave 20% tips leave a tip for other service workers? I'm referring to electricians, plumbers, landscapers, auto mechanics, etc. I always slip the mechanic a couple bucks when I take my truck in for tires or a state inspection, I do all repairs myself and although the shop I take my truck to for tires/inspections (two things I can't do myself) is locally owned the owner employs outside help and pays a little more than minimum wage. I suppose if you're having work done by a sole-proprietor tipping wouldn't be necessary however.

Blu2u · 05-13-2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike16

I'll leave 15-20% if the service is on par. I have never stiffed a waiter/waitress, as I worked in the food service industry for a few years out of high school, and was stiffed more times than I care to count for no reason whatsoever (I was always prompt with orders, polite and never rushed my customers). I still remember one customer leaving me a tip on a napkin that said "Get a real job!"

All that said, this thread has me thinking, how many of you that leave 20% tips leave a tip for other service workers? I'm referring to electricians, plumbers, landscapers, auto mechanics, etc. I always slip the mechanic a couple bucks when I take my truck in for tires or a state inspection, I do all repairs myself and although the shop I take my truck to for tires/inspections (two things I can't do myself) is locally owned the owner employs outside help and pays a little more than minimum wage. I suppose if you're having work done by a sole-proprietor tipping wouldn't be necessary however.

The difference is most of these workers make a living wage. If a service is ever done for free, I will tip. For example, my mechanics will often fix a flat or just give the tires air if needed. That always gets a tip.

Markgway · 05-14-2016, 12:45 AM

More than 20%? I'm expecting a handjob for that! Seriously though, is there anyone in the UK that tips that highly? I'm sure there's a cultural difference here, whereby in the US tips subsidise wages, and elsewhere they don't.

cinemacrash · 05-14-2016, 05:02 AM

I've lived in CA for more than 23 years and I've never experienced just leaving money on the table or have seen people just doing that. I hate to say this but it's risky these days to even just do that knowing that some people might steal it and as others have stated you might be accused of not paying the bill. I've eaten at both regular and high end restaurants, but I always pay first and then saying a "goodbye" greeting to my server before leaving the restaurant.

03-23-2016, 02:20 PM	#22
Scarriere Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:The Diamond Capital of North America™ Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:734 DVD collection:21 Trading Score:1	Yeah, ^ that is cool. No, I don't leave the money at the table. The servers are on the hook if anything happens to it and I don't want to add any grief to their day. I'd imagine they get enough of that from classless customers.

05-05-2016, 06:13 PM	#25
D00mM4r1n3 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2556 DVD collection:282 Trading Score:12	I prefer leaving a cash tip so the waiter knows immediately what I thought of their service. When I tip with a credit card I tend to just round up and give far more than 15%, usually 30-40%, regardless of service quality. I've left as little as $0.02 when I had to flag down a busboy to get a manager to have someone, anyone, come out to actually take my order and provide service. The waiter that did then went over by the entrance of the restaurant and talked about her scary sex life with a colleague, dropping constant expletives and gross details. On the other hand I've given a $100 tip on an $8 meal simply because the waiter was cheerful, fast and predicted my every need in advance.

05-05-2016, 07:05 PM	#26
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	What % do people here leave as tip? I go 10% (approx.).

05-05-2016, 11:10 PM	#29
C. Anton Power Member Member since:Jan 2016 Trading Score:81	We do it in East Texas regardless of the service, which does bring to mind Mr. Pink's rant from Reservoir Dogs. Still though, why not.

05-05-2016, 11:16 PM	#30
UK_fan_05 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Kentucky Blu-ray collection:321 Trading Score:67	I've been tempted to leave 0 before but then I start thinking that everyone has a bad day every once and awhile and give the person a break and tip 15% for bad service. That is the least I will go. I do however remember said person and while I can let one pass, two I won't.

05-13-2016, 05:02 PM	#32
segagamer12 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2011 Location:cyberspace Blu-ray collection:82 DVD collection:75	When I lived in Nevada all the restaurants were having you pay the server they would take your money or card with your bill and bring you your change. In those instances I would leave the money on the table in the book with the bill. Otherwise I don't mind paying at the register but I leave the tip on the table always. If I don't have cash on me I don't eat out. What I do hate is the tip jar where all the money goes into a pool and then everyone divides it up. That system is not fair for the lousy server to ride on the graces of the server busting their ass to give good service. I never dock a tip, I don't figure my amounts based on percent, I tip $5 for any lunch, $8 for a dinner and if I am going to a nice restaurant it's probably for work and I am not paying anyways so I don't bother there. Even if I just have a $3 ham and cheese sandwich I am leaving a $5 tip.

05-13-2016, 06:08 PM	#33
mrr1 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Canada #1! Blu-ray collection:148 Blu-ray reviews:1	Tipping is just a way for employers to download their responsibility for paying decent wages directly onto the shoulders of their customers. I wish restaurants would eliminate tipping altogether, pay their employees better salaries, and just increase the cost of their menu items to make up for it. No tips required - we pay for what we agreed to at the start. Then we can do away with this awkward "tip" nonsense.

05-13-2016, 08:31 PM	#36
sk33tr Banned Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Alabama Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray collection:234 DVD collection:9 MA collection:109 Digital collection:3 Trading Score:8	as far as a % to leave for a tip, i start at 20% when i sit down at the table. how the service goes dictates how much the tip goes up or down from there. i won't leave less than 12%. and i have left over 20% on a few occasions when the server went above and beyond. as well, i let those know, who went above and beyond, that i really appreciated everything they did to make it a pleasant experience.

05-13-2016, 10:47 PM	#37
Mike16 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Upstate New York; SE Kentucky Blu-ray collection:108 DVD collection:12	I'll leave 15-20% if the service is on par. I have never stiffed a waiter/waitress, as I worked in the food service industry for a few years out of high school, and was stiffed more times than I care to count for no reason whatsoever (I was always prompt with orders, polite and never rushed my customers). I still remember one customer leaving me a tip on a napkin that said "Get a real job!" All that said, this thread has me thinking, how many of you that leave 20% tips leave a tip for other service workers? I'm referring to electricians, plumbers, landscapers, auto mechanics, etc. I always slip the mechanic a couple bucks when I take my truck in for tires or a state inspection, I do all repairs myself and although the shop I take my truck to for tires/inspections (two things I can't do myself) is locally owned the owner employs outside help and pays a little more than minimum wage. I suppose if you're having work done by a sole-proprietor tipping wouldn't be necessary however.

05-14-2016, 12:45 AM	#39
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	More than 20%? I'm expecting a handjob for that! Seriously though, is there anyone in the UK that tips that highly? I'm sure there's a cultural difference here, whereby in the US tips subsidise wages, and elsewhere they don't.

05-14-2016, 05:02 AM	#40
cinemacrash Special Member Member since:Mar 2016 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:583 Trading Score:453	I've lived in CA for more than 23 years and I've never experienced just leaving money on the table or have seen people just doing that. I hate to say this but it's risky these days to even just do that knowing that some people might steal it and as others have stated you might be accused of not paying the bill. I've eaten at both regular and high end restaurants, but I always pay first and then saying a "goodbye" greeting to my server before leaving the restaurant.

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