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Jul 2014
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I did some searching and I was surprised to find that this is barely ever talked about... not only in this great community of ours, but all over the web.
My favourite scene is during the early part of the movie where we see the beginning of the take over of Air Force One and how ruthlessly efficient the Russian fighters are. The ensuing gun fight is truly amazing. Does anyone know why nobody talks about this film? |
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Good question. I personally like the film very much.
maybe some viewers feel that a president fighting back, John McClane style, is too much? Wolfgang Peterson has some clunkers.... but this isn't one of them Gary Oldman is in it for pete's sake! |
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Blu-ray Grand Duke
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Great movie, very underrated. it's a fantastic 'Die Hard on a....' movie and a great action movie in it's own right. In fact the only drawback is the horrible CG towards the end, everything else is great and holds up well today. I own it and rewatched it just a few weeks ago. Great fun.
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I thought it was overrated honestly. At least based on the box office returns. It's a 2 1/2 stars out of 4 movie at best. Oldman was a solid villain. Harrison Ford was still sort of giving a damn before he completely stopped trying for the next ten years(until Indy 4).
But it was hampered by a lousy script(or at least bad editing decisions). How can you base the entire story around a turncoat Secret Service agent and then not reveal his motive for betraying his President and his country?! Why would you kill off the villain about 3/4 of the way through the movie when he's the best thing about it? It would be like Die Hard doing away with Hans and Karl and then still having 20 minutes left to go. I know a lot of people praise Goldsmith's score, but I thought it was bland and uninspired. In his defense though, he was a last minute hire and had like a week to compose it. And yes, that infamous CGI crash at the end is maybe the worst FX shot I've seen in a big budget blockbuster in the last 20 years. It's made worse by that pathetic "NOOOOO!" by George Mason from 24 as the plane hits the water. Last edited by Adam_ME; 07-14-2016 at 12:50 PM. |
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Blu-ray Grand Duke
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Have a very big soft spot for this movie, as it was my first R-rated movie (a very soft R, in retrospect). Yeah it's basically Die Hard on a plane but the action is awesome, it moves along quickly, and Ford and Oldman give it their all (plus Close as the VP, which was an inspired choice). They don't make em like this anymore (sad, it's not even 20 years old).
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Thanks given by: | levcore (07-14-2016) |
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Blu-ray Grand Duke
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Blu-ray Duke
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Thanks given by: | AlexIlDottore (09-05-2016), Bates_Motel (09-05-2016) |
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Blu-ray Grand Duke
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Thanks given by: | surfdude12 (07-14-2016) |
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Aug 2010
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Even for 1997 the CGI was utterly appalling. Just a year earlier a similarly themed action thriller (Executive Decision) used matte and modelwork techniques and holds up far better today because of it. Wolfgang Petersen got too carried away with a technique that wasn't ready for prime time. To my mind it wasn't until Pearl Harbor in 2001, for all that movie's faults, that aerial action scenes with planes were rendered convincingly in CG.
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Jul 2014
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Did anyone else enjoy that early gun fight scene right when the Secret Service Agent 'Gibbs' goes hostile and the Russians run for the guns? I can't get enough of it.
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Blu-ray Samurai
Aug 2013
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