BD-P2500 vs PS3 - Blu-ray Forum

funkyp56 · 11-06-2008, 04:37 PM

These are the two I am considering buying...
I will probabley use the ps3 for gaming but I can definatly live without it (and have a more productive life. I know about the bluetooth remote which sorta turns me off to the ps3 as I am a harmony remote user. with all this said should I get the ps3 anyway? or jump into a netflix playing godlike samsung player

Please help!!!

drago3451 · 11-06-2008, 05:05 PM

Is bitstreaming or HD audio important to you? The Samsung does not decode DTS HD MA (per this site) so you would need a receiver that decodes the audio in bitstream. The PS3 decodes all of the HD codecs and sends them via LPCM but it can not bitstream. I went with a Sony BDP-S550 after owning both a BPD-S300 and a PS3 because I wanted to bitstream the audio and I wanted to use one remote (Harmony). If it is between those two I would go with the PS3 especially since you would use it as a game machine.

funkyp56 · 11-06-2008, 05:32 PM

Thanks for the response. Does that mean I can hook up a ps3 to my old samsung HTIB via optical and get all the high def sound? yeah having two remotes would drive me nuts! i guess i will get the bluetooth to IR adaptor

fsavoie · 11-06-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by funkyp56

Thanks for the response. Does that mean I can hook up a ps3 to my old samsung HTIB via optical and get all the high def sound? yeah having two remotes would drive me nuts! i guess i will get the bluetooth to IR adaptor

You can hook your ps3 to your old samsung via optical ,but without HD sound, 'cause it only goes through HDMI

funkyp56 · 11-06-2008, 05:43 PM

How is the menu system and response from that S550? works well with the harmony? What's the deal with the usb memory stick?

Zman2k2 · 11-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Nope, you cannot get full HD audio sound out of optical connections. If I remember right, it's just L/R channel HD sound. What you would get is the lossy core track of the HD sound (DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1). If your HTIB has an HDMI input, the PS3 would be the best for you, as it internally decodes the HD audio and sends it to the receiver PCM. It also sounds like you would use the PS3 for gaming as well, so it probably is the best way to go for you.
(See everyone, I'm not anti-PS3. I even recommend it sometimes)

If gaming isn't a big draw for you, I'm not sure about the Netflix thing, the one thing that would draw you to the BD-P2500 is the bitstreaming of audio. But of course, that would require you upgrade your receiver from an HTIB to a true A/V receiver capable of decoding.

Zman2k2 · 11-06-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by funkyp56

How is the menu system and response from that S550? works well with the harmony? What's the deal with the usb memory stick?

I can't answer the menu system and response, but I can tell you the S550 is in the Harmony database, so your remote will operate everything just fine. The deal with the memory stick is for BD-Live. It will keep all the things you download, like menu changes, pictures and such, on the memory stick for access everytime you place the movie in the player.

drago3451 · 11-06-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by funkyp56

How is the menu system and response from that S550? works well with the harmony? What's the deal with the usb memory stick?

The menu system works just like the PS3, it has the same XMB with fewer Icons of course. The Harmony remote has worked well so far, it is just as responsive as with other devices. I have the Harmony 550 the only drawback is I can not figure out how to get a popup menu button. From what I hear the USB memory is needed to store BD-live content. I have not set it up to my network yet I am waiting on a 50 foot network cable from Monoprice for that. Response times and load times are fantastic.

kingofgrills · 11-06-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by funkyp56

These are the two I am considering buying...
I will probabley use the ps3 for gaming but I can definatly live without it (and have a more productive life. I know about the bluetooth remote which sorta turns me off to the ps3 as I am a harmony remote user. with all this said should I get the ps3 anyway? or jump into a netflix playing godlike samsung player

Please help!!!

PS3. Definitely. Downloads are overhyped and a poor second choice to Blu-ray.

Plus, I'm a dedicated Harmony remote user as well, and it can easily be made to work well with PS3. The only thing I cannot do with my Harmony remote is turn on the PS3. I can turn it off with it though. PS3 will easily be upgradeable via firmware upgrades.

Finally, having the CELL processor and hard drive built in, it's a great media server for photos, videos, and music. That's something very useful that the Samsung cannot come close to doing.

funkyp56 · 11-06-2008, 07:22 PM

Well I am beginning to think that the PS3 is the best thing since sliced bread, wish they would lower the price though. I was gonna wait until I could either get HD netflix on some sort of blu-ray device but I only watch tv shows on netflix play instantly through my mac connected to my tv via RGB anyway. So I guess its PS3 and a new receiver/HTIB w/o a disk drive (Do they even make one of these that could decode the new codecs?)

Thanks for all the comments/suggestions!!!
Phil

11-06-2008, 04:37 PM	#1
funkyp56 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008	BD-P2500 vs PS3 These are the two I am considering buying... I will probabley use the ps3 for gaming but I can definatly live without it (and have a more productive life. I know about the bluetooth remote which sorta turns me off to the ps3 as I am a harmony remote user. with all this said should I get the ps3 anyway? or jump into a netflix playing godlike samsung player Please help!!!

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11-06-2008, 05:05 PM	#2
drago3451 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:12 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:426 Blu-ray reviews:1	Is bitstreaming or HD audio important to you? The Samsung does not decode DTS HD MA (per this site) so you would need a receiver that decodes the audio in bitstream. The PS3 decodes all of the HD codecs and sends them via LPCM but it can not bitstream. I went with a Sony BDP-S550 after owning both a BPD-S300 and a PS3 because I wanted to bitstream the audio and I wanted to use one remote (Harmony). If it is between those two I would go with the PS3 especially since you would use it as a game machine.

11-06-2008, 05:32 PM	#3
funkyp56 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008	Thanks for the response. Does that mean I can hook up a ps3 to my old samsung HTIB via optical and get all the high def sound? yeah having two remotes would drive me nuts! i guess i will get the bluetooth to IR adaptor

11-06-2008, 05:43 PM	#5
funkyp56 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008	How is the menu system and response from that S550? works well with the harmony? What's the deal with the usb memory stick?

11-06-2008, 05:47 PM	#6
Zman2k2 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Calgary, Canada Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:136 Trading Score:54	Nope, you cannot get full HD audio sound out of optical connections. If I remember right, it's just L/R channel HD sound. What you would get is the lossy core track of the HD sound (DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1). If your HTIB has an HDMI input, the PS3 would be the best for you, as it internally decodes the HD audio and sends it to the receiver PCM. It also sounds like you would use the PS3 for gaming as well, so it probably is the best way to go for you. (See everyone, I'm not anti-PS3. I even recommend it sometimes) If gaming isn't a big draw for you, I'm not sure about the Netflix thing, the one thing that would draw you to the BD-P2500 is the bitstreaming of audio. But of course, that would require you upgrade your receiver from an HTIB to a true A/V receiver capable of decoding.

11-06-2008, 07:22 PM	#10
funkyp56 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008	Well I am beginning to think that the PS3 is the best thing since sliced bread, wish they would lower the price though. I was gonna wait until I could either get HD netflix on some sort of blu-ray device but I only watch tv shows on netflix play instantly through my mac connected to my tv via RGB anyway. So I guess its PS3 and a new receiver/HTIB w/o a disk drive (Do they even make one of these that could decode the new codecs?) Thanks for all the comments/suggestions!!! Phil

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