Xbox 360 piracy woes continue...

[Maximus]

Call.Of.Duty.World.At.War.X360-xxxxxx.torrent

Upped today, 1600 peers! This is just on a private tracker...

Methinks the piracy issue is much bigger than MS would like to admit, that is 1000 lost sales for Activision from just one torrent site. It went up on irc today and is spreading to other torrent sites as we speak.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Call.Of.Duty.World.At.War.X360-xxxxxx.torrent

Upped today, 1600 peers! This is just on a private tracker...

Methinks the piracy issue is much bigger than MS would like to admit, that is 1000 lost sales for Activision from just one torrent site. It went up on irc today and is spreading to other torrent sites as we speak.

Sucks to be them.

Bonus for Sony for having a NEW tech in their machines that are harder to steal from.

Logan

[xtop]

sony has the same problem with the psp. and i have no idea why they even bother making pc games any more. piracy on the pc is huge. sucks across the board really

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Call.Of.Duty.World.At.War.X360-xxxxxx.torrent

Upped today, 1600 peers! This is just on a private tracker...

Methinks the piracy issue is much bigger than MS would like to admit, that is 1000 lost sales for Activision from just one torrent site. It went up on irc today and is spreading to other torrent sites as we speak.

It's not that big of an issue since you can't play on Xbox Live with those games. Xbox Live is the moneymaker.

[Maximus]

We all saw what happened with the PSP though, publishers dropped it good and proper, maybe PSP3000 will change that but it looks unlikely.

I'm not saying publishers will drop games for Xbox 360, definitely not right now, but if MS want to prolong the life of the 360 (which they do) to make money from it (which they definitely want to do!) this is not going to help...

[york weir]

Originally Posted by xtop

sony has the same problem with the psp. and i have no idea why they even bother making pc games any more. piracy on the pc is huge. sucks across the board really

Exactly. My PSP has been hacked but for the purpose of playing old games from my youth, not to steal current software.

The next xbox needs to have an HD DVD drive since it would have the storage capacity needed but it couldn't be easily burned.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by mikejet

It's not that big of an issue since you can't play on Xbox Live with those games. Xbox Live is the moneymaker.

Yes you can, it is a myth that modded X360s can't go onto Live. They can, you run the risk of your console being bricked and your Gamertag being banned, that's all. It extremely unlikely that they would do that anywaw, they would have to catch you first...

I know people who were playing pirated copies of GTA4 with R* North employees and they are currently playing Gears 2 with Epic employees. MS just assume you are in some sort of private beta and leave you alone. Don't worry about these people though, they always buy the game on release day!

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

We all saw what happened with the PSP though, publishers dropped it good and proper, maybe PSP3000 will change that but it looks unlikely.

I'm not saying publishers will drop games for Xbox 360, definitely not right now, but if MS want to prolong the life of the 360 (which they do) to make money from it (which they definitely want to do!) this is not going to help...

seems to me that since they've been hacked so early in their lives (psp, 360), that it wont matter if they release a console that cant be hacked. the damage has already been done.

i'm just wondeing how much longer itll be before dark alex gets the 3000 tho

[york weir]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Yes you can, it is a myth that modded X360s can't go onto Live. They can, you run the risk of your console being bricked and your Gamertag being banned, that's all. It extremely unlikely that they would do that anywaw, they would have to catch you first...

I know people who were playing pirated copies of GTA4 with R* North employees and they are currently playing Gears 2 with Epic employees. MS just assume you are in some sort of private beta and leave you alone. Don't worry about these people though, they always buy the game on release day!

Everyone I know with a hacked unit has been banned. Either my crowd is highly unlucky or they're pretty quick to catch it.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Yes you can, it is a myth that modded X360s can't go onto Live. They can, you run the risk of your console being bricked and your Gamertag being banned, that's all. It extremely unlikely that they would do that anywaw, they would have to catch you first...

I know people who were playing pirated copies of GTA4 with R* North employees and they are currently playing Gears 2 with Epic employees. MS just assume you are in some sort of private beta and leave you alone. Don't worry about these people though, they always buy the game on release day!

I just bought GoW2 a few minutes ago on my break. Got some weird code for Xbox Live with it too for the new thing launching.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by york weir

Everyone I know with a hacked unit has been banned. Either my crowd is highly unlucky or they're pretty quick to catch it.

That's just plain bad luck!

MS don't have any real way of knowing whether your unit is hacked or not. Especially with the smarter hacks which hide themselves under inspection...

I'm not saying you should hack your Xbox and pirate games, not one bit. I'm just saying it can be done and there is very little that MS can do about it to the ire of most game publishers...

[york weir]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

That's just plain bad luck!

MS don't have any real way of knowing whether your unit is hacked or not. Especially with the smarter hacks which hide themselves under inspection...

I'm not saying you should hack your Xbox and pirate games, not one bit. I'm just saying it can be done and there is very little that MS can do about it to the ire of most game publishers...

I haven't followed the hacking community at all since I'd rather support the people working to make games but the people that were banned were ousted last year I think when they did a fall update that did a sweeping ban. Perhaps the hackers have found better ways now.

[blitz6speed]

The PS3 isnt hacked for one major reason, for the majority of gaming, you can have a hacked wii, 360, psp, ds and have a plethora of games at your disposal. In fact, 95% of the PS3 games can be had on other platforms, and you can just buy the PS3 exclusives since there arent that many of them that are really worth it.

The PS3 isnt hacked yet not because its hacker proof, its because you get 95% of the games on the PS3 on the 360 and you get to play on xbox live. There is no demand for a hacked ps3 to play a handful of exclusives. And that will always hamper the PS3s hardware sales numbers worldwide compared to the competition. Plenty of people purchase 360s and have them hacked before its even powered on. That doesnt happen on the PS3.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

The PS3 isnt hacked for one major reason, for the majority of gaming, you can have a hacked wii, 360, psp, ds and have a plethora of games at your disposal. In fact, 95% of the PS3 games can be had on other platforms, and you can just buy the PS3 exclusives since there arent that many of them that are really worth it.

The PS3 isnt hacked yet not because its hacker proof, its because you get 95% of the games on the PS3 on the 360 and you get to play on xbox live. There is no demand for a hacked ps3 to play a handful of exclusives. And that will always hamper the PS3s hardware sales numbers worldwide compared to the competition. Plenty of people purchase 360s and have them hacked before its even powered on. That doesnt happen on the PS3.

There is that, but pirates want to play MGS4 and R2 (which IMO is better than Gears 2 ), they will definitely want to play KZ2.

There is no denying that the PS3 lacks exclusives, but the ones that it does have are of very good quality, and it is a regular complaint of my pirate friends that they have to wait until release date to play them or live in hope to make the beta (which most of them don't!)...

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

There is that, but pirates want to play MGS4 and R2 (which IMO is better than Gears 2 ), they will definitely want to play KZ2.

There is no denying that the PS3 lacks exclusives, but the ones that it does have are of very good quality, and it is a regular complaint of my pirate friends that they have to wait until release date to play them or live in hope to make the beta (which most of them don't!)...

All the piraters i know want the PS3 hacked but are very content with the 360 being hacked because of live still working. But yah, for piraters these days, you pirate everything but PS3 games, and those you buy.

IMO, the main benefit for the PS3 getting hacked would be native MKV support and the plethora of emulators that would be made for it. Imagine MAME with the power of the cell for emulation. Would be a treat. Pirating wise, there are so few exclusive PS3 games worth the effort, most people dont care. Which is why it remains unhacked.

[Musashi]

Pardon the sudden side note, but how bad is or was PS2 piracy?

And: publishers all dropped PSP? I thought there were some more good games on the way, some from Square-Enix, a couple more from Level 5.

[sssick]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

All the piraters i know want the PS3 hacked but are very content with the 360 being hacked because of live still working. But yah, for piraters these days, you pirate everything but PS3 games, and those you buy.

IMO, the main benefit for the PS3 getting hacked would be native MKV support and the plethora of emulators that would be made for it. Imagine MAME with the power of the cell for emulation. Would be a treat. Pirating wise, there are so few exclusive PS3 games worth the effort, most people dont care. Which is why it remains unhacked.

There are plenty of games that are worth hacking a PS3, don't kid yourself.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with needing a BD burner and blank media costing $20 a pop.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Pardon the sudden side note, but how bad is or was PS2 piracy?

And: publishers all dropped PSP? I thought there were some more good games on the way, some from Square-Enix, a couple more from Level 5.

PS2 wasn't as bad as PS1 or Xbox original. Here's my reasoning:

When the PS1 was out, everyone had CD burners but not DVD burners. So when the PS2 came out, majority of people didn't have broadband yet so it was hard to d/l and DVD burners were still somewhat expensive.

By the time the Xbox came out, DVD burner prices were dropping and broadband became more prevalent. Then the soft mod came out and all hell broke loose.

Blu-ray burners and their file sizes are so large that it isn't worth it to pirate them. An image file for a BD movie is like 25GB. That takes forever to d/l compared to a regular DVD image at 4.7 or 8gb max.

That's my reasoning why.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

All the piraters i know want the PS3 hacked but are very content with the 360 being hacked because of live still working. But yah, for piraters these days, you pirate everything but PS3 games, and those you buy.

IMO, the main benefit for the PS3 getting hacked would be native MKV support and the plethora of emulators that would be made for it. Imagine MAME with the power of the cell for emulation. Would be a treat. Pirating wise, there are so few exclusive PS3 games worth the effort, most people dont care. Which is why it remains unhacked.

Don't be surprised if Sony add .mkv support in the future, they added DivX and XviD, and those are pirate formats.

With their numerous firmware updates Sony have removed many legitimate reasons for people to bust the system open.

Giving the homebrew people Linux to play around on was the best thing they ever did, pirates by and large aren't very good hackers, homebrew people are. As long as they continue to have a Linux working environment for their homebrew efforts their is no legitimate reason to hack the PS3, and it should, in theory, remain unhacked. Although we all know theory and reality are two different things.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Pardon the sudden side note, but how bad is or was PS2 piracy?

And: publishers all dropped PSP? I thought there were some more good games on the way, some from Square-Enix, a couple more from Level 5.

PS2 was pretty bad in the middle when there were a lot of hardcore users, once the casuals joined it was better as the hardcore moved onto PSP and Xbox 360 in 2004/5.

Only in Japan is the PSP supported, how many western devs are making games for it. Even Ready at Dawn gave up and they are pretty much second party to Sony...