Kuro owners & Oled 4Ks

[HDTV1080P]

If they drop 3-D support on OLED then I will not be buying a OLED for the main home theater room. If you want really good 3-D then get a DLP projector if your room is setup for a projector. DLP projectors offer Cinema quality 3-D at 144Hz.

For a bedroom I would be interested in OLED. DLP projector is a must have for a dedicated dark home theater room.

[revgen]

I hope LG doesn't drop passive 3-D from their TV lineup next year. 3-D Blu-Ray titles are far more plentiful than UHD titles right now, and the passive 3-D approach is far more consumer-friendly than the active glasses utilized by Sony.

There are glasses-free technologies like Ultra-D that may be made available next year, but they tend to be iffy when it comes to negative parallax (popout).

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

If they drop 3-D support on OLED then I will not be buying a OLED for the main home theater room. If you want really good 3-D then get a DLP projector if your room is setup for a projector. DLP projectors offer Cinema quality 3-D at 144Hz.

For a bedroom I would be interested in OLED. DLP projector is a must have for a dedicated dark home theater room.

Basically and I know you may not want to hear this, but 3-D is pretty much dead. Content providers won't support it.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Basically and I know you may not want to hear this, but 3-D is pretty much dead. Content providers won't support it.

In the commercial cinema 3-D is alive and doing good. However in the consumer market 3-D has become a niche market where most consumers that want 3-D go with DLP projectors. There is still studios releasing movies on Blu-ray 3-D.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Basically and I know you may not want to hear this, but 3-D is pretty much dead. Content providers won't support it.

That's really just Disney, and they still put out 3D releases for their super successful films. They just gave up on converting Aladdin to 3D or releasing stuff like Pete's Dragon and The Finest Hours in 3D.

But WB, Fox, Universal, Lionsgate and Sony are all still supporting 3D at home.

[evoll]

You can get the finest hours on 3d. I bought it from a different country but you are right on Disney not releasing certain movies on 3d.

[pg_ice]

Modified 500M with almost 0 blacks and reduced ABL dimming here. (can not be compared to a standard 9G Kuro as for blacks/contrast and overall brightness)

Picture wise OLED will only be a downgrade if i dont want i bigger screen that is.
as this 500M already have the same blacks and contrast as an OLED i dont need it.

i have compared several 55-65" 4K sets with it and at 3m viewing distance details with native 4K content on the 4K sets are equal to the details that the 500M produces.
the only time i would see the benefit with 4K res is probably with a 75" set and thats to big.

Think of a modified 500M as an OLED but without any issues (near black problems or tints) and much higher motion resolution.
Add higher microcontrast and a more natural looking image on the Kuros compared to the OLEDs and you are close.
OLEDs still looks like LCDs artificial and steril in the Picutre.
They have a long way to go to match the kuros in that department and to get rid of the "panel" look.

The only stuff that OLEDs has better is higher brightness and better AG filter for daytime viewing but as i mostly watch movies in a dim or pitch black room i dont need either of those.

but for sure
if you watch soap operas in daytime with the sun shining in then i would consider an OLED for better contrast and higher peak brightness.

Lots of AVS nuts in here i see
is AVS dead now since members with "real knowledge" has stop posting there or ?
only amateurs left right ?

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by pg_ice

Modified 500M with almost 0 blacks and reduced ABL dimming here. (can not be compared to a standard 9G Kuro as for blacks/contrast and overall brightness)

Picture wise OLED will only be a downgrade if i dont want i bigger screen that is.
as this 500M already have the same blacks and contrast as an OLED i dont need it.

i have compared several 55-65" 4K sets with it and at 3m viewing distance details with native 4K content on the 4K sets are equal to the details that the 500M produces.
the only time i would see the benefit with 4K res is probably with a 75" set and thats to big.

Think of a modified 500M as an OLED but without any issues (near black problems or tints) and much higher motion resolution.
Add higher microcontrast and a more natural looking image on the Kuros compared to the OLEDs and you are close.
OLEDs still looks like LCDs artificial and steril in the Picutre.
They have a long way to go to match the kuros in that department and to get rid of the "panel" look.

The only stuff that OLEDs has better is higher brightness and better AG filter for daytime viewing but as i mostly watch movies in a dim or pitch black room i dont need either of those.

but for sure
if you watch soap operas in daytime with the sun shining in then i would consider an OLED for better contrast and higher peak brightness.

Lots of AVS nuts in here i see
is AVS dead now since members with "real knowledge" has stop posting there or ?
only amateurs left right ?

Ummm. Nope. Ive owned KUROS and Samsung plasmas and the OLED is a better product overall thanheither of them. Blacks are better, contrast is better, and a quality 4K feed looks better than 1080p. Not sure where you are coming up with this stuff but its nonsense. In a dark room, OLED beats out everything. Not even close. OLEDs dont look like LCDs at all - thats nother bunch of fooey.

I frequent AVS a lot and there are plenty of very knowlegable people there. And, the ones that have converted to OLED from plasma all say the same thing: The OLED beats their old plasma. "Real Knowledge"? You should get some.....

[eChopper]

I also have a KRP 500m which I tweaked the voltages to give me oled like blacks

I have a tv with a 90% fill factor , perfect uniformity , no banding, no vignetting and excellent performance at 5-10% IRE

LG Oled 4K still struggles to reach 40% fill factor

Maybe when a real company like sony release oled I'll bite , there's just not enough UHD blu rays I need to warrant the jump to 4K

Most of the UHD titles are upscales from 2k DI's

[gcchifi]

Someone local and nearby trying to off their Pioneer 6010FD for $1K. Barely used. Tempted...really tempted.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by eChopper

I also have a KRP 500m which I tweaked the voltages to give me oled like blacks

I have a tv with a 90% fill factor , perfect uniformity , no banding, no vignetting and excellent performance at 5-10% IRE

LG Oled 4K still struggles to reach 40% fill factor

Maybe when a real company like sony release oled I'll bite , there's just not enough UHD blu rays I need to warrant the jump to 4K

Most of the UHD titles are upscales from 2k DI's

Ouch. The LG OLEDS are excellent TVs in just about every regard. Sure, staring at grey screens for hours on end will probably find some uniformity issues or whatever. Fine. I was a plasma die hard and KURO owner but my 65" OLED blows them away in just about every way possible. I like Sony and I'm sure they'll make a good OLED of they come out with one. But these LG sets shouldn't be talked down. They produce phenomenal image quality. Everyone knows that contrast is KING when it comes to PQ and you can't get better than infinite. . This OLED makes my plasmas seem like light bulbs in comparison.

I do agree with you on the 4K content and how there really isn't much there. 3D is more appreciable on these OLEDS than 4K is. That should change soon.