WALL•E... 6.1 or 5.1 DTS-HD MA?

[SeanMF]

I received wall-e today and my ps3 is showing 6.1 dts hd-ma....the review on this said 6.1 in the specs but the review said 5.1. The box also shows 5.1....is this an error on the displaying of the audio?

[STARSCREAM]

It has been confirmed that it is indeed a 6.1 mix. The box must have misprint.

[SeanMF]

That would be the first 6.1 mix I know of from disney....you sure it's not 5.1.? Idk why they'd do a 6.1 over their usual 5.1 or even 7.1....seems odd.

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by seanfarley2

That would be the first 6.1 mix I know of from disney....you sure it's not 5.1.? Idk why they'd do a 6.1 over their usual 5.1 or even 7.1....seems odd.

Yeah but Sleepless is 7.1 and that show Hannah Montana is 7.1 too

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by seanfarley2

That would be the first 6.1 mix I know of from disney....you sure it's not 5.1.? Idk why they'd do a 6.1 over their usual 5.1 or even 7.1....seems odd.

1 step forward, two steps back.

[SeanMF]

thats my point....6.1 isn't a common setup at all...and unless i'm mistaken...disney hasn't ever used it....so why would they do that on this title? The review on this said it was 5.1. The specs on this site said 6.1. The movie says 6.1 and box says 5.1. Anyone got a legit link or something to confirm what it is?

[SeanMF]

peter bracke said it was 6.1 dts hd-ma and the only audio option available...to subs either. Odd they'd use 6.1....but it sounds amazing so far...very active surround sound.

[saginawjuggalo]

This would make the second 6.1 DTS MA to be featured on a Blu-ray, X-Men: The Last Stand being the first.

I wonder if Disney is going with DTS, I keep seeing more and more from them.

If your running a 7.1 setup, the 6.1 soundtrack can be matrixed into 7.1 with ease. The far back channels will be mono. I'm gussing the reason Wall-E is 6.1 has to do with the studio who did the mixing.. The studio doing the mix may only be setup for 6.1

[Blu-News]

It does feature 6.1

[Canada]

Originally Posted by saginawjuggalo

I wonder if Disney is going with DTS, I keep seeing more and more from them.

I hope they will use DTS MA that is my favorite lossless codec. I don't care what people say DTS sounds better to me.

Top Gun Sounds better on DTS MA

[Blu-Tsunami13]

Originally Posted by saginawjuggalo

This would make the second 6.1 DTS MA to be featured on a Blu-ray, X-Men: The Last Stand being the first.

I wonder if Disney is going with DTS, I keep seeing more and more from them.

If your running a 7.1 setup, the 6.1 soundtrack can be matrixed into 7.1 with ease. The far back channels will be mono. I'm gussing the reason Wall-E is 6.1 has to do with the studio who did the mixing.. The studio doing the mix may only be setup for 6.1

Don't forget Top Gun.

[Blu-Tsunami13]

Originally Posted by Canada

I hope they will use DTS MA that is my favorite lossless codec. I don't care what people say DTS sounds better to me.

Top Gun Sounds better on DTS MA

Well some people would argue that they used two different mixes for the Top Gun Blu Ray. I watched the movie twice, trying both codecs respectively. And was able to pick up on small details in the Dolby True HD track, that I didn't hear in the DTS-HDMA track.

But that goes Vice-Versa for that matter. For example in the scene where Maverick, Goose, Iceman, and Slider were at orientation, and Iceman was eying Maverick for the 1st time. You can actually hear Iceman tapping his pen up and down on his notebook even when the camera fixes off his character and zooms in on Maverick. I know that doesn't come out sounding very impressive, but considering that I was able to catch that small detail eventhough the superior officer was lecturing the cadets, and the fact the Iceman was about 10 feet off screen from Maverick was pretty impressive.

The DTS-HDMA version did a great job of capturing the surreal enviorments of the Naval Base, giving the viewer the opportunity of hearing jets soaring through the skies even while Tom Cruise was inside of a building was pretty impressive also.

Conclusion they both have their unique strengths, but their different mixes, so if you have Top Gun, I strongly suggest you give both of 'em a listen.

Edit: (Emphasizing my point) I'm trying to compare the small details, because that to me was what really caught me by surprised when I was watching the movie.

I mean, you can compare how the two tracks measure up during the aerial dog fights that take place through out the movie. But I can even tell you both codecs did not fail to flexed their muscle on the dynamic action scenes. DTS-HDMA just got an advantage courtesy of the additional speaker (6.1). So I wanted to share how detailed both of these tracks are instead.

"no no no there is two Os in goose boys "-Goose Top Gun

[Pseudoblu]

The review of this movie/disc is glowing and almost obsessive.. I really can't wait to check this movie out even though i hate preaching especially when it comes to or linked to Global Warming sh!t... but Pixar movies have always been a thing of beauty imo.

and in regards to the sound as I am one who favors DTSMA followed by PCM and last TrueHD... and I've heard all the arguments... but all the DTS tracks I have listened to are a step above the rest... case in point I compare the Hulk to Iron Man... movie aside as I think Iron Man is much better.. but the Sound was so Different...i love feeling the bass in the gun shots and that is what I base a good disc off of... The explosions or Jet engines are lacking as well in the TrueHD track of Iron Man... but the Machine Gun fire in the Hulk was music to my ears. I am so glad to see Disney jump on the DTS train as Fox, Universal and some of lionsgates movies have used... Love DTS!!!

[Blu-Tsunami13]

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

The review of this movie/disc is glowing and almost obsessive.. I really can't wait to check this movie out even though i hate preaching especially when it comes to or linked to Global Warming sh!t... but Pixar movies have always been a thing of beauty imo.

and in regards to the sound as I am one who favors DTSMA followed by PCM and last TrueHD... and I've heard all the arguments... but all the DTS tracks I have listened to are a step above the rest... case in point I compare the Hulk to Iron Man... movie aside as I think Iron Man is much better.. but the Sound was so Different...i love feeling the bass in the gun shots and that is what I base a good disc off of... The explosions or Jet engines are lacking as well in the TrueHD track of Iron Man... but the Machine Gun fire in the Hulk was music to my ears. I am so glad to see Disney jump on the DTS train as Fox, Universal and some of lionsgates movies have used... Love DTS!!!

Yeah, you drive a good argument, obviously Disney and Fox sees something in DTS thats re-ensures their commitment. I just wanted to put my point out there, cause I know True HD has been taking a lot of flak recently.

Although I have to take into consideration it doesn't have the most consistent track record, it defiantly has it shares of pure audio bliss, in titles such as Transformers, C. Royale, Top Gun, and from what I have heard Cloverfield.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

The review of this movie/disc is glowing and almost obsessive.. I really can't wait to check this movie out even though i hate preaching especially when it comes to or linked to Global Warming sh!t... but Pixar movies have always been a thing of beauty imo.

Wall•E isn't a preachy movie at all. There are messages, but the central theme of this story is love. I won't spoil the movie for you, but the EVE character makes a decision about 3/4 of the way through the movie that solidifies that theme as the central one. You'll know it when you get to it.

For those who have seen Wall•E,

[Show spoiler]it's the part in the trash area of the Axiom, when EVE throws the plant away in favour of holding Wall•E's hand...she chooses Wall•E's love over her "directive".

It's kind of a sad statement that any movie which features environmental issues prominently, even if they're used less as a message and more as a story device (as is the case with Wall•E), is automatically lumped in with An Inconvenient Truth or Six Degrees Could Change the World. Those are what I would define as "preachy".

Wall•E is entertainment first and foremost...and wonderful entertainment at that.

As for the comparison of Iron Man to Hulk, Iron Man's TrueHD track is a perfect representation of the mix in Iron Man, which wasn't nearly as aggressive as Hulk's. Iron Man was a much more subdued movie in terms of audio, even in the theatre. That has nothing to do with the codec.

[Pseudoblu]

Originally Posted by Blu-Tsunami13

Yeah, you drive a good argument, obviously Disney and Fox sees something in DTS thats re-ensures their commitment. I just wanted to put my point out there, cause I know True HD has been taking a lot of flak recently.

Although I have to take into consideration it doesn't have the most consistent track record, it defiantly has it shares of pure audio bliss, in titles such as Transformers, C. Royale, Top Gun, and from what I have heard Cloverfield.

True.. as I really didn't want to say its hopeless with TrueHD... its just flawed in certain instances... at least in the instance of my taste I guess... i know audiophiles think I'm nutz as lossless is lossless as some people have said... but I just dont see that to be the truth... DTS tracks just hit a nerve with me and its just satisfying... Transformers has a nice track but I tend to think... It could have been better.. as everything could have been but I'm biased. As for Casino royale... I have the PCM disc and I love it.. I have not heard the TrueHD track on the new version. But lets just raise our glasses to HDSound as a whole.. Dolby Digital 640 is almost unbearable now because of this amazing feat in Home Theater Entertainment.

[Pseudoblu]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Wall•E isn't a preachy movie at all. There are messages, but the central theme of this story is love. I won't spoil the movie for you, but the EVE character makes a decision about 3/4 of the way through the movie that solidifies that theme as the central one. You'll know it when you get to it.

For those who have seen Wall•E,

[Show spoiler]it's the part in the trash area of the Axiom, when EVE throws the plant away in favour of holding Wall•E's hand...she chooses Wall•E's love over her "directive".

It's kind of a sad statement that any movie which features environmental issues prominently, even if they're used less as a message and more as a story device (as is the case with Wall•E), is automatically lumped in with An Inconvenient Truth or Six Degrees Could Change the World. Those are what I would define as "preachy".

Wall•E is entertainment first and foremost...and wonderful entertainment at that.

I wouldn't dare lump this movie in with those types.. I ask to be entertained especially when it comes to Pixar movies.. they are always great.. I really had no clue about the undertone of the movie.. I just saw the reviewer mentioned it and it left me thinking... DAMNIT!!! I really can't wait to see it though and heres to hoping I agree with you..

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

I wouldn't dare lump this movie in with those types.. I ask to be entertained especially when it comes to Pixar movies.. they are always great.. I really had no clue about the undertone of the movie.. I just saw the reviewer mentioned it and it left me thinking... DAMNIT!!! I really can't wait to see it though and heres to hoping I agree with you..

When you do watch it, come back and highlight the spoiler in my post...I'd be surprised if you didn't agree with me.

[saginawjuggalo]

Originally Posted by Blu-Tsunami13

Don't forget Top Gun.

Yup, my mistake.. Top Gun slipped the mind

Top Gun would be the second Blu-ray to use DTS MA 6.1 and Wall-E being the third.

[Blu-Tsunami13]

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

But lets just raise our glasses to HDSound as a whole.. Dolby Digital 640 is almost unbearable now because of this amazing feat in Home Theater Entertainment.

Agreed, Cheers 2 lossless sound.