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Old 09-06-2016, 06:36 AM   #61
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Any suggestions on how to fix this with the TV apps themselves?

I first noticed it on Hulu plus because we watch a lot of old criterions. Instead of displaying the movie in 4:3 it zooms in. The hulu app on the blu-ray player displays it correctly.

Then today I noticed the same thing on a newer movie on Amazon. Gets rid of the black bars and zooms in on the TV app but the app on the blu-ray player displays it correctly.

I am not able to change screen fit settings when I am in one of the apps just if I am on one of the sources. Turning screen fit off made it even worse though.

I have it set to 16:9 and screen fit is on

Any tips for this overscan?

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Old 06-03-2017, 11:31 AM   #62
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I noticed with ABC, I got more of the picture with screen fit vs 16:9. which one should I use?
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:09 PM   #63
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I noticed with ABC, I got more of the picture with screen fit vs 16:9. which one should I use?
Always screen fit
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:18 PM   #64
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Always screen fit
Always? Bc I noticed TNT had a lot of edge artifacts compared to ABC
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:20 PM   #65
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Always? Bc I noticed TNT had a lot of edge artifacts compared to ABC
Yeah I don't mind that. That also happens on the Nickelodeon ch
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:27 PM   #66
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I have ocd I mind it all lol
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:56 PM   #67
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I have ocd I mind it all lol
And I too have ocd, but, that ocd makes me need to see the image in it's 1:1 form, not zoomed in. So I don't mind if I see some artifacts around the edge perimeter
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1:1 mode or die.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:03 PM   #69
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Anything to get rid of the black bars is a plus for me. Whenever I watch a 4:3 show or movie, I simply stretch the picture. Works perfect.
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I just discovered this last night my brain hurts from watching a game where the team I root for lost and my OCD made me rewatch


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Old 06-04-2017, 12:54 PM   #71
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Anything to get rid of the black bars is a plus for me. Whenever I watch a 4:3 show or movie, I simply stretch the picture. Works perfect.
Oh no. I'm opposite. I need to see things in the ratio that their source material is in.

That means on a Samsung TV, using the setting "16:9" is technically WRONG because it's slightly (very slightly) zooming in on the picture in an attempt to hide the edge artifacts. I don't care about the edge. I don't want the pixels enlarged. I want 1:1.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:38 PM   #72
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Anything to get rid of the black bars is a plus for me. Whenever I watch a 4:3 show or movie, I simply stretch the picture. Works perfect.
So you like watching a show as if you were looking into a fun house mirror? Do you drink beer with a straw? Do you wear your clothes inside out?

Everyone is entitled to do whatever makes them happy, but there are proper ways to do things, and the proper way to watch a movie or TV show is as the director intended it to be in the proper aspect ratio.

I don't understand people who think that black bars are worse than eliminating the equivalent of half the height when they enlarge a 2.4:1 widescreen film in order to fill the 16:9 screen. I was having this discussion with someone when my eight-year-old granddaughter said, "why don't they just make believe the screen is smaller?" Pretty smart kid.

It's because of black bar haters that HBO and other premium services no longer play most widescreen films at the proper aspect ratio. Personally, I won't subscribe to any service, nor watch any movie on cable that isn't shown at the original aspect ratio. IMO, every director should have a clause in their contract forbidding the presentation of their films at the wrong AR.

People who do this don't deserve high resolution formats and Blu-ray. It's like wasting a fine French meal on someone who only wants to eat at McDonald's.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:41 PM   #73
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So you like watching a show as if you were looking into a fun house mirror? Do you drink beer with a straw? Do you wear your clothes inside out?

Everyone is entitled to do whatever makes them happy, but there are proper ways to do things, and the proper way to watch a movie or TV show is as the director intended it to be in the proper aspect ratio.

I don't understand people who think that black bars are worse than eliminating the equivalent of half the height when they enlarge a 2.4:1 widescreen film in order to fill the 16:9 screen. I was having this discussion with someone when my eight-year-old granddaughter said, "why don't they just make believe the screen is smaller?" Pretty smart kid.

It's because of black bar haters that HBO and other premium services no longer play most widescreen films at the proper aspect ratio. Personally, I won't subscribe to any service, nor watch any movie on cable that isn't shown at the original aspect ratio. IMO, every director should have a clause in their contract forbidding the presentation of their films at the wrong AR.

People who do this don't deserve high resolution formats and Blu-ray. It's like wasting a fine French meal on someone who only wants to eat at McDonald's.
A suitable analogy is also cutting off the ends of Da Vinci's 'The Last Supper' painting in order to fit it into a frame that's as tall but not as wide. As video luminary Joe Kane insists, "It's all about the art." Cutting off part of the composition to fit the equipment is a poor choice for anyone who values full program reproduction.

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Most members here want OAR, but I appreciate having a choice for those that don't. Like others have said, many of our parents hate the black bars. What I find ironic is that when the director/studio releases the Blu ray with a lock out on scaling the aspect ratio, anyone with a decent flat panel that wants the picture scaled will just scale it via the TV's aspect ratio controls. All the studio has done is remove the Blu ray players scaling option, which depending on the manufacturer, might do a better job than the TV.
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