What if the Black bars only appeared at the bottom of the screen? - Blu-ray Forum

C.A. Hall · 07-27-2017, 01:55 AM

So I just saw a commercial where the black bars appeared at the bottom of the screen, rather than the top & bottom. And it got me thinking if this would be better than what's normally done.

What's your opinion? Yay or Nay or Just buy a bigger screen, dummy!

Bates_Motel · 07-27-2017, 01:57 AM

No. If you have your black levels set right, they should blend in with the TV anyway, so it's a non-issue.

C.A. Hall · 07-27-2017, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

No. If you have your black levels set right, they should blend in with the TV anyway, so it's a non-issue.

You quick!

Heapashifter · 07-27-2017, 01:59 AM

I'd rather have my image centered.

UFAlien · 07-27-2017, 02:00 AM

That sounds terrible. So many people have their TVs wall-mounted above mantles and fireplaces and such already and have to crane their necks or sit too far away. Pushing the image up off-center would just make it worse (and compromise the proper viewing angle for people who bothered to set theirs up correctly to boot, however slightly).

Gamma_Winstead · 07-27-2017, 02:01 AM

I'll pass on that.

C.A. Hall · 07-27-2017, 02:04 AM

Well alrighty then lol... The forum's spoken.

Thanks!

shinobipopcorn · 07-27-2017, 02:06 AM

My DVD of Kurosawa's Ran does that, and uses the black space for hard coded subs. Except I think that makes it a 4:3 picture... I don't know, it's an old ex-rental and I haven't watched it since I had a 4:3 tv.

Petra_Kalbrain · 07-27-2017, 02:23 AM

Just... nope...

Michael24 · 07-27-2017, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UFAlien

So many people have their TVs wall-mounted above mantles and fireplaces and such already and have to crane their necks or sit too far away.

I've never understood how people can watch TV like that. I've never seen a wall-mounted TV that's been comfortable to watch. Or some people have them up in alcoves beside a fireplace, so not only are you looking up but, depending on where you're sitting, also watching from a side angle.

I couldn't stand that. I like my TV directly opposite and eye-level with sitting in a chair or on a couch.

chip75 · 07-27-2017, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by C.A. Hall

So I just saw a commercial where the black bars appeared at the bottom of the screen, rather than the top & bottom. And it got me thinking if this would be better than what's normally done.

It was quite common for foreign language films in the UK to be presented that way on DVD and television. They do it these days to put extra information in the space. Some TVs allow you to move the picture up, but I don't think there's any reason to do it anymore.

Scarface32 · 07-27-2017, 02:40 AM

I couldn't handle the off-center image. It would irritate me to the point that I take a hammer to the TV.

kidglov3s · 07-27-2017, 02:53 AM

I shift matted material up to erase the top matte and then physically block off the bottom matte, or block the side mattes off physically on <1.78:1 stuff, so that the mattes aren't projected. You wouldn't really gain anything by shifting an image on a TV though, the mattes are still going to be there.

Axl Rose · 07-27-2017, 03:48 AM

Black bars have never bothered me but doing it this way certainly would.

Blu-Velvet · 07-27-2017, 03:56 AM

I'd say 95% of the movies I watch are with my projector rather than on a TV set, and with a constant-height (4-foot tall) screen I just zoom the lens in and out to have the picture fit the same height and pull the side masking in and out to fit the picture size from about 5 feet wide to up to 10 feet wide. There are never black bars beside or above the picture when it's set properly. Widescreen becomes widescreen instead of letterboxed, the way it was meant to be.

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07-27-2017, 01:55 AM	#1
C.A. Hall Active Member Member since:Oct 2013	What if the Black bars only appeared at the bottom of the screen? So I just saw a commercial where the black bars appeared at the bottom of the screen, rather than the top & bottom. And it got me thinking if this would be better than what's normally done. What's your opinion? Yay or Nay or Just buy a bigger screen, dummy!

07-27-2017, 01:57 AM	#2
Bates_Motel Banned Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Los Angeles Trading Score:2	No. If you have your black levels set right, they should blend in with the TV anyway, so it's a non-issue.

07-27-2017, 01:59 AM	#4
Heapashifter Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2015 Location:Myrtle Beach, SC 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2690 DVD collection:275 Digital collection:687 Prime collection:7 Trading Score:13	I'd rather have my image centered.

07-27-2017, 02:00 AM	#5
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:475 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	That sounds terrible. So many people have their TVs wall-mounted above mantles and fireplaces and such already and have to crane their necks or sit too far away. Pushing the image up off-center would just make it worse (and compromise the proper viewing angle for people who bothered to set theirs up correctly to boot, however slightly).

07-27-2017, 02:01 AM	#6
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	I'll pass on that.

07-27-2017, 02:04 AM	#7
C.A. Hall Active Member Member since:Oct 2013	Well alrighty then lol... The forum's spoken. Thanks!

07-27-2017, 02:06 AM	#8
shinobipopcorn Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2017 Location:Cow Country Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:438 DVD collection:304 MA collection:266 Digital collection:303 iTunes collection:238 Blu-ray reviews: 30 Trading Score:6	My DVD of Kurosawa's Ran does that, and uses the black space for hard coded subs. Except I think that makes it a 4:3 picture... I don't know, it's an old ex-rental and I haven't watched it since I had a 4:3 tv.

07-27-2017, 02:23 AM	#9
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	Just... nope...

07-27-2017, 02:40 AM	#12
Scarface32 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2012 Location:New York 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:1170 DVD collection:341 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:3	I couldn't handle the off-center image. It would irritate me to the point that I take a hammer to the TV.

07-27-2017, 02:53 AM	#13
kidglov3s Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2013 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:2124	I shift matted material up to erase the top matte and then physically block off the bottom matte, or block the side mattes off physically on <1.78:1 stuff, so that the mattes aren't projected. You wouldn't really gain anything by shifting an image on a TV though, the mattes are still going to be there.

07-27-2017, 03:48 AM	#14
Axl Rose Power Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2014 Location:Murray Street 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:91 DVD collection:17 Digital collection:99 iTunes collection:2	Black bars have never bothered me but doing it this way certainly would.

07-27-2017, 03:56 AM	#15
Blu-Velvet Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Home Theater Gallery:88 Blu-ray collection:2623 DVD collection:400 Blu-ray reviews: 41	I'd say 95% of the movies I watch are with my projector rather than on a TV set, and with a constant-height (4-foot tall) screen I just zoom the lens in and out to have the picture fit the same height and pull the side masking in and out to fit the picture size from about 5 feet wide to up to 10 feet wide. There are never black bars beside or above the picture when it's set properly. Widescreen becomes widescreen instead of letterboxed, the way it was meant to be.

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