Happy Death Day (2017)

[TheBoss062]

Originally Posted by grodd

Go Ahead but I think I heard.....

[Show spoiler] after Tree kills her assailant by stuffing the cupcake in her mouth and throwing her out the window, she wakes up the next morning to repeat the same day yet again, meaning that killing her didn't end the time loop. Test audiences hated the ending because it was considered a cheat, after Tree spent the whole movie bettering herself and becoming a nicer person, it was all for nothing. This ending was meant to indicate that this loop could be endless, but it was quickly reshot shortly before the theatrical release due to the negative reaction to the original ending.

[Phil92]

Originally Posted by TheBoss062

[Show spoiler] after Tree kills her assailant by stuffing the cupcake in her mouth and throwing her out the window, she wakes up the next morning to repeat the same day yet again, meaning that killing her didn't end the time loop. Test audiences hated the ending because it was considered a cheat, after Tree spent the whole movie bettering herself and becoming a nicer person, it was all for nothing. This ending was meant to indicate that this loop could be endless, but it was quickly reshot shortly before the theatrical release due to the negative reaction to the original ending.

That’s not the version I read. The version I read was

[Show spoiler]it’s a different day, but she ends up getting killed by someone else, which I thought was pretty hilarious considering she’s hated by so many.

[TheBoss062]

Originally Posted by Phil92

That’s not the version I read. The version I read was

[Show spoiler]it’s a different day, but she ends up getting killed by someone else, which I thought was pretty hilarious considering she’s hated by so many.

So does that mean there's more than one alternate ending?

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by TheBoss062

We kind of already had them before, Haunter with Abigail Breslin and Premonition with Sandra Bullock.

Yea & I liked Premonition but wasn’t that the husband, had a pretty messed up ending though & still couldn’t stop what happened to him.

BTW how does this get a home release date before IT?

[Phil92]

Originally Posted by TheBoss062

So does that mean there's more than one alternate ending?

One was probably scripted, but not filmed. Interesting to see what ends up on the disc. The first ending is a mega cop out, though. At least the second is a slight tongue-in-cheek twist.

[TheBoss062]

Originally Posted by TXMoviebuff77

Yea & I liked Premonition but wasn’t that the husband, had a pretty messed up ending though & still couldn’t stop what happened to him.

BTW how does this get a home release date before IT?

The ending to Premonition was supposed to poetic and symbolic on how we have little control on our ultimate fate, but how we can change the little details to alter our path to said fate.

I don't think it does? Release dates haven't been posted on the site yet.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by TXMoviebuff77

BTW how does this get a home release date before IT?

Universal looks to be doing another staggered release: Blu-ray and DVD releases first then 4K UHD later.

Whereas Warner is opting to release all three formats at once.

Warner could also be prepping a theatrical re-release promotion for awards season.

[AaronJ]

I enjoyed this so much in the theater. It really is a fun movie, and Jessica Rothe was so great. This will definitely be earning a spot on my shelf -- once I find some more shelf space that is.

[El_Fez]

Pity that it's not unrated. A PG-13 horror movie is like drinking O'doul's instead of Guinness.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

Pity that it's not unrated. A PG-13 horror movie is like drinking O'doul's instead of Guinness.

There isn’t anything to add to this. Its a perfectly fine PG-13 movie and the inspiration, Groundhog Day, is rated PG-13. I don’t understand why an R rating would make a movie better.

[OneWayFilms]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

There isn’t anything to add to this. Its a perfectly fine PG-13 movie and the inspiration, Groundhog Day, is rated PG-13. I don’t understand why an R rating would make a movie better.

I agree. The rating has NO IMPACT on how good or bad a movie is. The only thing that makes a movie R rated is extreme profanity, nudity, sexuality, or extreme gore/violence. NONE of those things are guaranteed or proven to IMPROVE a bad movie.

VERY SELDOM is a movie R rated simply for being TOO scary, but it DOES happen, once in a GREAT while (The Conjuring, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Psycho).

What makes a movie GOOD? A well-written script, engaging characters, a thrilling plot/story, great cinematography, and well-directed. Sex, Boobs and Gore does NOT make a bad movie better, and anyone who believes it does is very infantile.

[El_Fez]

Sorry, I don't like wussified horror movies with all the bite cut out. I had a friend who's opinion I trust in these matters said that the movie felt incomplete, like a made-for-tv movie.

(and I loath that Hollywood only chases the PG13 rating at the exclusion of everything else, but that's a whole new can of worms)

But hey, thanks for insulting me. I'm sure that will lead to a productive conversation between us.

[GasmaskAvenger]

The thing with Happy Death Day being a PG-13 presents a real catch-22. Its a great movie, but it really...REALLY needed to not hold back on the deaths to really capture the spirit of the slasher subgenre.

The Final Girls, which is another movie I enjoyed (Happy Death Day is the superior film, though) also had the same issue. Two great odes the slasher that should've been legendary had they went with an R-Rating. As is, they're two fun movies somewhat compromised by the bite being neutered a bit.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

Sorry, I don't like wussified horror movies with all the bite cut out. I had a friend who's opinion I trust in these matters said that the movie felt incomplete, like a made-for-tv movie.

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

The thing with Happy Death Day being a PG-13 presents a real catch-22. Its a great movie, but it really...REALLY needed to not hold back on the deaths to really capture the spirit of the slasher subgenre.

Happy Death Day is more of a romantic comedy with some slasher story elements thrown in, and that's the best way to approach the film. The movie captures a perfect mood with its PG-13 mindset, and that's a good thing in this instance.

There are plenty of other slasher movies out there where I can get my fix of boobs and blood. Happy Death Day, on its own terms, is a good-natured and endlessly rewatchable flick that puts a smile on my face.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Happy Death Day is more of a romantic comedy with some slasher story elements thrown in, and that's the best way to approach the film. The movie captures a perfect mood with its PG-13 mindset, and that's a good thing in this instance.

There are plenty of other slasher movies out there where I can get my fix of boobs and blood. Happy Death Day, on its own terms, is a good-natured and endlessly rewatchable flick that puts a smile on my face.

That's how I see it as well. The Rated R bits probably wouldn't add much to the film anyway since the deaths aren't the point. The progression of the main character is.

[OneWayFilms]

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

I agree. The rating has NO IMPACT on how good or bad a movie is. The only thing that makes a movie R rated is extreme profanity, nudity, sexuality, or extreme gore/violence. NONE of those things are guaranteed or proven to IMPROVE a bad movie.

VERY SELDOM is a movie R rated simply for being TOO scary, but it DOES happen, once in a GREAT while (The Conjuring, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Psycho).

What makes a movie GOOD? A well-written script, engaging characters, a thrilling plot/story, great cinematography, and well-directed. Sex, Boobs and Gore does NOT make a bad movie better, and anyone who believes it does is very infantile.

Originally Posted by El_Fez

Sorry, I don't like wussified horror movies with all the bite cut out. I had a friend who's opinion I trust in these matters said that the movie felt incomplete, like a made-for-tv movie.

(and I loath that Hollywood only chases the PG13 rating at the exclusion of everything else, but that's a whole new can of worms)

But hey, thanks for insulting me. I'm sure that will lead to a productive conversation between us.

My point was films like Texas Chainsaw Massacre has neither Sex, Boobs, NOR gore and yet it is listed as one of the scariest movies ever made.

The Conjuring is the same way, no sex, boobs or gore, and was among the scariest horrors films of it's year.

But there are PLENTY of horror films with plenty of Sex, Boobs AND Gore and yet, they are HORRIBLE films, POORLY MADE and POORLY received.

Surely people aren't thinking "Gosh, I wish that movie had more boobs and sex in it, then it was be a GREAT film."

Or ARE they???

[El_Fez]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

The Final Girls, which is another movie I enjoyed (Happy Death Day is the superior film, though) also had the same issue. Two great odes the slasher that should've been legendary had they went with an R-Rating. As is, they're two fun movies somewhat compromised by the bite being neutered a bit.

Having not seen Death Day, I cant comment - but yeah, that's exactly my thoughts with the Final Girls. I love the hell out of the movie, but if you are going to make a love letter to the eighties slasher genre, then keeping it PG-13 really undercuts the movie. That scene where - oh, crap, I forgot her name - was strip dancing as bait was the time I went "Ya know, they really needed some boobs there." Keeping the boobies out of the movie until that moment would have really worked - the Precision F-Strike, if you will, but with tits.

I kept hoping for a more adult disc, but it was not to be.

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

Surely people aren't thinking "Gosh, I wish that movie had more boobs and sex in it, then it was be a GREAT film."

I'm not saying it's a bad film. Actually, I don't know beyond what my friends told me about it. I'm just saying that I was disappointed at studio mandated neutering of movies and that they didnt embrace their slasher movie roots when given a chance.

But please, keep rolling your eyes at me. I'm sure that will help your argument and endear you to me more.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

That scene where - oh, crap, I forgot her name - was strip dancing as bait was the time I went "Ya know, they really needed some boobs there." Keeping the boobies out of the movie until that moment would have really worked - the Precision F-Strike, if you will, but with tits.

You're referring to Angela Trimbur, who was hella sexy in the film. Way sexier than she was in Rob Zombie's Halloween II, which is funnier as the latter is a hard R, but her character was pretty unappealing and had easily the worst lines in the entire film.

[OneWayFilms]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

I'm not saying it's a bad film. Actually, I don't know beyond what my friends told me about it. I'm just saying that I was disappointed at studio mandated neutering of movies and that they didnt embrace their slasher movie roots when given a chance.

But please, keep rolling your eyes at me. I'm sure that will help your argument and endear you to me more.

I couldn't help but laugh at your post. I'm not rolling my eyes at you, I respect people with a different viewpoint from my own, even if I don't agree. I'm not a judgmental jerk. LOL.

[El_Fez]

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

I couldn't help but laugh at your post. I'm not rolling my eyes at you, I respect people with a different viewpoint from my own, even if I don't agree. I'm not a judgmental jerk. LOL.

Funny. I come from, calling someone infantile and then responding with the rolling eyes emoticon is considering being insulting.

Whatever dude. Have a nice life. I'm done with you.